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Old May 31, 2005
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encounter with a Cobalt SS

I was driving down a 3 lane road today in milwaukee, and saw a car a ways up ahead I didn't recognize. He looked to be driving a bit spiritedly through traffic, so I stepped it up to find out what it was.

Eventually I got closer and saw it was a new Cobalt SS. I kinda fell in behind the guy, and maneuvered with him through traffic. Eventually I was getting to where I had to turn, so I started to move over to the turn lane. He moved up ahead of me and there was a car between us.

We both turned, and quickly found ourselves ahead of traffic. I moved next to him, and he kinda sped up, then slowed down. As we came over the hill, we hit a light that turned red.

I was next to him and looked over but he wasn't looking at me. So of course I'm kinda wondering if he's going to go or not. I quickly get my answer when I hear him rev a bit as the cross traffic light turns yellow. I bring my revs up a bit, but only drop at 4000rpm just for a slight jump. It sounds like he launched a bit more aggressively than me, and his intial lead would indicate he did.

He gets the initial jump on me, about a 1/2 car length. I hit 6000rpm in 1st gear, and quickly pull back that distance and then some. Into 2nd I get a bark from the tires and a bit of a jump. I start to pull decently, and by 60mph I have gained about 2 cars. I go into 3rd and continue to pull. By the time I shift to 4th at 80mph I have put him into my rear view mirror pretty clearly. If I had to guess I'd say 5 or 6 cars by 85mph. I shut down and he drives by with a quick thumbs up and then turns off at the following road.

I definitely think these cars will be able to give the SRT4 a run for its money. And for a stock S2000, I wouldn't take them too lightly either.
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I'd take one as a daily driver when GM does a 4 grand discount on them like they always do with thier cars

Hell buy a corvette right now and you get a grand back

I was reading motortrend and they did a head to head comparison between the srt-4 and colbalt SS. The srt-4 beats it to 60 but in the quarter they are dead equal! Can't get more than a drivers race than that.

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cool!
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Mmm... havent seen 1 yet. but I do have a vid of a Ion Redline (I believe the Cobalt SS is the same under the hood) neck and neck with a E36 M3.
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Originally Posted by CuRiOuSfIsH
Mmm... havent seen 1 yet. but I do have a vid of a Ion Redline (I believe the Cobalt SS is the same under the hood) neck and neck with a E36 M3.
that makes sense to me. the E36 M3 is about on par with a mustang GT, and the S2k is just slightly faster than that.
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R u shifting at 6k? Is there a reason that you dont shift at 6800 or 7k? I would think that you would want to shift closer to redline unless you weren't trying as hard. Right?
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sounds cool, my little bro just graduated from high school and got a cobalt but not the ss.
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dam i wanted to race one i thought they were 14.7 stock?
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nice kill by the way....
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nice kill. I havent run into any yet. not too popular out here. most the people in it's market are buying srt 4's. those thngs are as common as civics by my house.
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when do yall shift (RPM) when racing. not launch but shift 1-2 2-3 3-4 4-5.
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Yeah...nicely done, would have love to see it.

Regarding shifting, I go 6k all the way til 4th gear when driving a little crazy. I'm afraid something will go wrong if I go higher than that.

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Originally Posted by Kyle23
when do yall shift (RPM) when racing. not launch but shift 1-2 2-3 3-4 4-5.
if youre close to stock, redline is just right. I remember the long thread on this topic...........
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At leguna secca race way Testing motortrend vol 57 No. 5 May 2005
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0-60 6.1
1/4 14.4 at 99.3
later acceleration .88g avg
weight distribution 60/40
Srt-4
0-60 6.0
1/4 14.4 at 100.8
lateral acceleration .88 g avg
1.6 mile road course
SS = 97.2
SRT-4= 97.4

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Damn, they are pretty fast even stock.
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arent the new srt 4 in the high 13's because of that traction thing they added
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That lateral G isn't looking too bad considering the chasis structure. I think the SRT-4 will continue to reign as king of the craptastic domestic straightline cars, seems like theres just more aftermarket support and the prices and options in the Stage II/III upgrade kits are impressive.
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Originally Posted by Kyle23
R u shifting at 6k? Is there a reason that you dont shift at 6800 or 7k? I would think that you would want to shift closer to redline unless you weren't trying as hard. Right?



you mean 8000 rpm???
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WTF? I'm actually a big fan of the cobalt. (minus the wing on the SS), but how the hell does it even come close to keeping up with an S2000? Were you playing with this guy?

Cobalt Weight=2991, Horsepower=205, Torque=200 lb-ft

S Weight=2835, Horsepower=240, Torque 162 lb-ft

Is it the torque from the supercharger? I realize you beat him, but I'm thinking you should have BEAT HIM. What gives?
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torque is great down low but up top it becomes the s2000 game. torque gets you off the line.
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those ss are quick but there not that fast, my friend zach beat one by about 6 cars in his srt and that was with us rollin 4 deep
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Originally Posted by Kyle23
R u shifting at 6k? Is there a reason that you dont shift at 6800 or 7k? I would think that you would want to shift closer to redline unless you weren't trying as hard. Right?
?? I shifted at redline every time. were you talking to me?
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Originally Posted by JP375
WTF? I'm actually a big fan of the cobalt. (minus the wing on the SS), but how the hell does it even come close to keeping up with an S2000? Were you playing with this guy?

Cobalt Weight=2991, Horsepower=205, Torque=200 lb-ft

S Weight=2835, Horsepower=240, Torque 162 lb-ft

Is it the torque from the supercharger? I realize you beat him, but I'm thinking you should have BEAT HIM. What gives?
I did a half asses launched. He didn't. I think 6 cars to 85mph is a pretty good lead. I'd say he's a 14 flat car, so he's likely modded. maybe a pulley to upgrade psi on the supercharger.

keep in mind the mag's ran a 14.4. I imagine real drivers will go even better. maybe even into the 13's. i also hear these are dyno'ing higher than they should, meaning they are underrated.

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Hmmm...makes me wonder if the new Si will be able to keep up, being fw and all...
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Originally Posted by cubanmike26
Hmmm...makes me wonder if the new Si will be able to keep up, being fw and all...
i don't wonder... i know it won't. the Si will pass the SRT-4 either at the first corner, or about 30k miles, whichever comes first
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lol all i have to say about any american "sports car" (street car not track only) is that there is always a car out there that has 1.8 liters and is faster!
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lol all i have to say about any american "sports car" (street car not track only) is that there is always a car out there that has 1.8 liters and is faster!
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100mph trap should be good for a 14.0 maybe high 13 with a killer 60ft. Srt's(4 in my car club alone) and TC's are everywhere here. Havent seen any cobalt's yet.
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