encounter with a Cobalt SS
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encounter with a Cobalt SS
I was driving down a 3 lane road today in milwaukee, and saw a car a ways up ahead I didn't recognize. He looked to be driving a bit spiritedly through traffic, so I stepped it up to find out what it was.
Eventually I got closer and saw it was a new Cobalt SS. I kinda fell in behind the guy, and maneuvered with him through traffic. Eventually I was getting to where I had to turn, so I started to move over to the turn lane. He moved up ahead of me and there was a car between us.
We both turned, and quickly found ourselves ahead of traffic. I moved next to him, and he kinda sped up, then slowed down. As we came over the hill, we hit a light that turned red.
I was next to him and looked over but he wasn't looking at me. So of course I'm kinda wondering if he's going to go or not. I quickly get my answer when I hear him rev a bit as the cross traffic light turns yellow. I bring my revs up a bit, but only drop at 4000rpm just for a slight jump. It sounds like he launched a bit more aggressively than me, and his intial lead would indicate he did.
He gets the initial jump on me, about a 1/2 car length. I hit 6000rpm in 1st gear, and quickly pull back that distance and then some. Into 2nd I get a bark from the tires and a bit of a jump. I start to pull decently, and by 60mph I have gained about 2 cars. I go into 3rd and continue to pull. By the time I shift to 4th at 80mph I have put him into my rear view mirror pretty clearly. If I had to guess I'd say 5 or 6 cars by 85mph. I shut down and he drives by with a quick thumbs up and then turns off at the following road.
I definitely think these cars will be able to give the SRT4 a run for its money. And for a stock S2000, I wouldn't take them too lightly either.
Eventually I got closer and saw it was a new Cobalt SS. I kinda fell in behind the guy, and maneuvered with him through traffic. Eventually I was getting to where I had to turn, so I started to move over to the turn lane. He moved up ahead of me and there was a car between us.
We both turned, and quickly found ourselves ahead of traffic. I moved next to him, and he kinda sped up, then slowed down. As we came over the hill, we hit a light that turned red.
I was next to him and looked over but he wasn't looking at me. So of course I'm kinda wondering if he's going to go or not. I quickly get my answer when I hear him rev a bit as the cross traffic light turns yellow. I bring my revs up a bit, but only drop at 4000rpm just for a slight jump. It sounds like he launched a bit more aggressively than me, and his intial lead would indicate he did.
He gets the initial jump on me, about a 1/2 car length. I hit 6000rpm in 1st gear, and quickly pull back that distance and then some. Into 2nd I get a bark from the tires and a bit of a jump. I start to pull decently, and by 60mph I have gained about 2 cars. I go into 3rd and continue to pull. By the time I shift to 4th at 80mph I have put him into my rear view mirror pretty clearly. If I had to guess I'd say 5 or 6 cars by 85mph. I shut down and he drives by with a quick thumbs up and then turns off at the following road.
I definitely think these cars will be able to give the SRT4 a run for its money. And for a stock S2000, I wouldn't take them too lightly either.
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Rep Power: 294 I'd take one as a daily driver when GM does a 4 grand discount on them like they always do with thier cars 
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I was reading motortrend and they did a head to head comparison between the srt-4 and colbalt SS. The srt-4 beats it to 60 but in the quarter they are dead equal! Can't get more than a drivers race than that.
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I was reading motortrend and they did a head to head comparison between the srt-4 and colbalt SS. The srt-4 beats it to 60 but in the quarter they are dead equal! Can't get more than a drivers race than that.
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Rep Power: 314 Mmm... havent seen 1 yet. but I do have a vid of a Ion Redline (I believe the Cobalt SS is the same under the hood) neck and neck with a E36 M3.
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Originally Posted by CuRiOuSfIsH
Mmm... havent seen 1 yet. but I do have a vid of a Ion Redline (I believe the Cobalt SS is the same under the hood) neck and neck with a E36 M3.
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R u shifting at 6k? Is there a reason that you dont shift at 6800 or 7k? I would think that you would want to shift closer to redline unless you weren't trying as hard. Right?
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Rep Power: 0 nice kill. I havent run into any yet. not too popular out here. most the people in it's market are buying srt 4's. those thngs are as common as civics by my house.
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Rep Power: 270 Yeah...nicely done, would have love to see it.
Regarding shifting, I go 6k all the way til 4th gear when driving a little crazy. I'm afraid something will go wrong if I go higher than that.
Regarding shifting, I go 6k all the way til 4th gear when driving a little crazy. I'm afraid something will go wrong if I go higher than that.
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Originally Posted by Kyle23
when do yall shift (RPM) when racing. not launch but shift 1-2 2-3 3-4 4-5.
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Rep Power: 294 At leguna secca race way Testing motortrend vol 57 No. 5 May 2005
SS
0-60 6.1
1/4 14.4 at 99.3
later acceleration .88g avg
weight distribution 60/40
Srt-4
0-60 6.0
1/4 14.4 at 100.8
lateral acceleration .88 g avg
1.6 mile road course
SS = 97.2
SRT-4= 97.4
SS
0-60 6.1
1/4 14.4 at 99.3
later acceleration .88g avg
weight distribution 60/40
Srt-4
0-60 6.0
1/4 14.4 at 100.8
lateral acceleration .88 g avg
1.6 mile road course
SS = 97.2
SRT-4= 97.4
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Rep Power: 0 That lateral G isn't looking too bad considering the chasis structure. I think the SRT-4 will continue to reign as king of the craptastic domestic straightline cars, seems like theres just more aftermarket support and the prices and options in the Stage II/III upgrade kits are impressive.
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Originally Posted by Kyle23
R u shifting at 6k? Is there a reason that you dont shift at 6800 or 7k? I would think that you would want to shift closer to redline unless you weren't trying as hard. Right?
you mean 8000 rpm???
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Rep Power: 0 WTF? I'm actually a big fan of the cobalt. (minus the wing on the SS), but how the hell does it even come close to keeping up with an S2000? Were you playing with this guy?
Cobalt Weight=2991, Horsepower=205, Torque=200 lb-ft
S Weight=2835, Horsepower=240, Torque 162 lb-ft
Is it the torque from the supercharger? I realize you beat him, but I'm thinking you should have BEAT HIM. What gives?
Cobalt Weight=2991, Horsepower=205, Torque=200 lb-ft
S Weight=2835, Horsepower=240, Torque 162 lb-ft
Is it the torque from the supercharger? I realize you beat him, but I'm thinking you should have BEAT HIM. What gives?
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Originally Posted by Kyle23
R u shifting at 6k? Is there a reason that you dont shift at 6800 or 7k? I would think that you would want to shift closer to redline unless you weren't trying as hard. Right?
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Originally Posted by JP375
WTF? I'm actually a big fan of the cobalt. (minus the wing on the SS), but how the hell does it even come close to keeping up with an S2000? Were you playing with this guy?
Cobalt Weight=2991, Horsepower=205, Torque=200 lb-ft
S Weight=2835, Horsepower=240, Torque 162 lb-ft
Is it the torque from the supercharger? I realize you beat him, but I'm thinking you should have BEAT HIM. What gives?
Cobalt Weight=2991, Horsepower=205, Torque=200 lb-ft
S Weight=2835, Horsepower=240, Torque 162 lb-ft
Is it the torque from the supercharger? I realize you beat him, but I'm thinking you should have BEAT HIM. What gives?
keep in mind the mag's ran a 14.4. I imagine real drivers will go even better. maybe even into the 13's. i also hear these are dyno'ing higher than they should, meaning they are underrated.
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Originally Posted by cubanmike26
Hmmm...makes me wonder if the new Si will be able to keep up, being fw and all...
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Originally Posted by diskreet
lol all i have to say about any american "sports car" (street car not track only) is that there is always a car out there that has 1.8 liters and is faster!
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Rep Power: 0 100mph trap should be good for a 14.0 maybe high 13 with a killer 60ft. Srt's(4 in my car club alone) and TC's are everywhere here. Havent seen any cobalt's yet.
