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Old Feb 7, 2005
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02 lx vs 05 si

i was at gandy down in st pete on sat and i rolled up on a kid with a blue 05 si with intake header and exhaust with my 02 lx with the same mods. i went 3 honks with the kid from 40 and stayed dead even with him till about 90mph where he pulled about a half car car on me and stayed there until about 110 i was laughing prety hard because we pulled over and he said "u didnt really think u were gonna beat me did you" and he got mad when i said his car was slow because he should have pulled alot more then a half a car. i mean come on u got 40 more hp to start out with and all those mods. my dad has a 02 si and that car is fast as crap i have beaten so meny cars with that including other si with mods new and old mabye everyone else just dosent know how to drive that car. ill post vids if anyone can tell me how
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Originally Posted by btuner
my dad has a 02 si and that car is fast as crap

it's not that fast man. yeah, the dude was a bad driver
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Are you saying that you think he lost hp with his mods since your dad's Si is fast, yet you kept up with this kids Si?
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i have raced my dad, si vs lx and he beats me by at least 2-3 cars every time, and i have raced numerious other si's with the simelar mods and beat everyone, stop, roll, at the track, i just dont think anyone knows how to drive there si
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Lucky ur right there with ur dad. Over at my house it isn't so fair, boosted ex vs C5 corvette, boosted ex vs 03 Mach 1, boosted ex vs 03 350z, and now most currently, boosted ex vs 04 V8 thunderbird.......the bird has def got to be his slowest car yet, hehe.
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How to race

So the Si a more powerful car with better gear ratios only beat you by one car length. Let me let you in on a little secret. When I race people I only beat them by one or so car lengths, if they miss a shift I let off the gas partitaly then get back on it. If the guy next to me thinks he was close he will agree to a rematch and I can make some money, if I flat out beat him/her (got to be fair) then how will I make the money to pay the rent?
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dude the civic si aint no big deal. It aint got much more power than our vics. While the si has a lil bit more hp, it all depends on the driver. I remember when my car was stock I saw a spanking new si on the freeway with a kid driver so I raced him and he raced me too, Im sure he grinded couple gears trying to race. I took lead sometimes while he would be following weaving in and out through traffic. The si's are fun to race especially when the driver is ignorant and thinks our vics cant take them. Once there was an si on my way home after getting food with gf and he had like 3 girls in his si with bunch of stickers exhaust/intake/headers, I was behind him while he revved it because we were on a turn, I floored the pedal and as I passed by, I mad dogged him and he wouldnt look. I love ******* especially when the other driver thinks hes the ****. After that Im sure he knew I had forced/i so he just gave up.
ANyways, what Im trying to say is that si's arent **** compared to our vics, if not they are the same. The only thing Im worried about is a modded type-s
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that kid was definately a bad driver. i could murder a dx/lx/ex. (I have an 04 Si)

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^ yes he could, lol
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Originally Posted by Scatman
that kid was definately a bad driver. i could murder a dx/lx/ex. (I have an 04 Si)
Too bad you live up in MA. I'd like to see you murder my DX. I'm 3-1 against SI's. Always looking for a good race. The one that beat me was a 2000. It was on the street, got him the first race then he got me the next two. I tried to set up a rematch at the track but he never showed. All of them had pretty much the same mods as me too I/H/E.
There are some bad drivers out there though.
Any track times for you?
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hey show us a time slip for ur 15.1 time in the 1/4 mile and ill believe that time..because u have basic motor mods
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old news but here you go.


This is the thread. http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=188385

The dates are the slip were off but if you read around post#42 you'll see I have several witnesses and also verification of the dates being printed wrong.



I would have ran high 14's if I had some more practice and with cooler weather. But I only had one shot with my new mods before I left the country.
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wow..my bad...i remember seeing that thread and i didnt think anything of it, but thats pretty fast for an N/A DX...

still dont think you would beat scatmans si tho
hes runnin 162whp....and he hasnt ran it at the track yet
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Yeah I might not win, but I like a nice close race. Just too bad we are so far away. I need to get dynoed and weighed when I get back. I can't be putting down more than 110-115 if that.
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me and scatman are takin a ride down south to south carolina this summer w/ our cars...where r u located?
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Yeah I might not win, but I like a nice close race. Just too bad we are so far away. I need to get dynoed and weighed when I get back. I can't be putting down more than 110-115 if that.

yea, it would be a good race....but of course if i ran with a gutted interior and slicks, its over.
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Originally Posted by Redline04
Too bad you live up in MA. I'd like to see you murder my DX. I'm 3-1 against SI's. Always looking for a good race. The one that beat me was a 2000. It was on the street, got him the first race then he got me the next two. I tried to set up a rematch at the track but he never showed. All of them had pretty much the same mods as me too I/H/E.
There are some bad drivers out there though.
Any track times for you?
A 6th gen (2000) Si is a much different beast than the 7th gen.

There seems to be some "talk" floating around in this thread, that are misconceptions at best.

A stock ex can run a 15.8 at best. A stock Si (the egg) can run about a 15.7 at best. So a stock EX and Si are very close but the Si will still pull all day from a roll. lx/dx will have a slightly harder time than the ex.

a 6th gen Si can run a 15.3. And if you ran a 2000 Si with i/h/e and won, then you ran a sh*tty driver. You still won, but he had the faster car.

Obviously with your 15.1 you should be able to beat a stock 7th gen Si no problem.
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A 6th gen (2000) Si is a much different beast than the 7th gen.

There seems to be some "talk" floating around in this thread, that are misconceptions at best.

A stock ex can run a 15.8 at best. A stock Si (the egg) can run about a 15.7 at best. So a stock EX and Si are very close but the Si will still pull all day from a roll. lx/dx will have a slightly harder time than the ex.

a 6th gen Si can run a 15.3. And if you ran a 2000 Si with i/h/e and won, then you ran a sh*tty driver. You still won, but he had the faster car.

Obviously with your 15.1 you should be able to beat a stock 7th gen Si no problem.

i have a friend who happens to be a good driver with a 00 Si w/ i/h/e and ive beaten him.(MishballzEM2 can confirm this)

and my car isnt stock, im right around 162whp....and as far as i know, the stock time for a 7thgen Si is 15.4

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Everything I've seen on their official timeslip list on ephatch.com and from what i've read on forums, I've never seen a stock 7th gen Si get better than a 15.6. If you can point me to timeslips that show otherwise for a bone stock ep hatch, please do, cuz i'd definitely like to confirm it!!

And if your friend can't hit 14.7-14.8 with his i/h/e 6th gen Si, then he isn't a good driver.

Not saying that you didn't beat him, I believe that.
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I didn't realize the Ex's were that close to the Si in the quarter... Only one tenth of a second? Very suprising.
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most times though the Si will do better more easily than the EX. the 15.6 and 15.8 are talking the best drivers.
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I think that a EX may even pull on a SI at 100+. I don't remember were, but I have heard it more than once
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that i'd have to see to believe.... hmm
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yeah I don't know were I saw it at, but I think that at really high speeds the ex will pull.
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yeah I don't know were I saw it at, but I think that at really high speeds the ex will pull.
no, it wont. me (04 Si) and MishballzEM2 (04 EX) have ran it on the highway many times. i pull everytime.
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ANyone who thinks an EX Stock can outrun an Si Stock is just on crack period.....
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Originally Posted by Scatman
no, it wont. me (04 Si) and MishballzEM2 (04 EX) have ran it on the highway many times. i pull everytime.
yeah, but as you said before you have mods. I am talking stock ex and stock SI
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Originally Posted by MishBallzEM2
me and scatman are takin a ride down south to south carolina this summer w/ our cars...where r u located?
I'm in the shithole of the world Shreveport Louisiana. I have family in NC about 30 min from Myrtle Beach. Let me know when you heading down. Can't make any promises but I might be around. It's a along drive(about 1000mi), but my wife and I did it in 14hrs the last two times. I just don't know if she'll wanna take my car. It's too noisy and she hates it.
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wow i would to love to know how u ran a 15.1 with a dx with basic bolt ons, even with christian rado driving, yeah you got a slip but who says it yours, impossible to believe that the first time u ever ran ur car at the track u ran faster then a 7th gen si with mods has ever ran, ima have to call BS on this one, post a video and ill believe it all day long but until then in my books its impossible
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Originally Posted by Redline04
I'm in the shithole of the world Shreveport Louisiana. I have family in NC about 30 min from Myrtle Beach. Let me know when you heading down. Can't make any promises but I might be around. It's a along drive(about 1000mi), but my wife and I did it in 14hrs the last two times. I just don't know if she'll wanna take my car. It's too noisy and she hates it.
we should definetly try to meet up..that would be fun...its gonna be 12hrs for us



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