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Originally Posted by S2000man01
if you killed a modifed mustang GT, then the GT couldn't drive. a modded GT is faster than your GTO.
in fact I raced a GTO earlier today and beat it from a 30mph roll.....
in fact I raced a GTO earlier today and beat it from a 30mph roll.....
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uh, yeah. the auto GTO is about a 13.8 to 13.9 car. the S2000 is a 13.6-13.7 car. (automatic that is... i've seen some 6-speed GTO's getting into 13.4-13.5)
your car is not as fast as you think. stock for stock, it's quite a bit slower than any LS1 f-body.
it's a driver's race between an auto GTO and an S2000, IMO. but i think the stick GTO is a good chunk faster.
your car is not as fast as you think. stock for stock, it's quite a bit slower than any LS1 f-body.
it's a driver's race between an auto GTO and an S2000, IMO. but i think the stick GTO is a good chunk faster.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
uh, yeah. the auto GTO is about a 13.8 to 13.9 car. the S2000 is a 13.6-13.7 car. (automatic that is... i've seen some 6-speed GTO's getting into 13.4-13.5)
your car is not as fast as you think. stock for stock, it's quite a bit slower than any LS1 f-body.
it's a driver's race between an auto GTO and an S2000, IMO. but i think the stick GTO is a good chunk faster.
your car is not as fast as you think. stock for stock, it's quite a bit slower than any LS1 f-body.
it's a driver's race between an auto GTO and an S2000, IMO. but i think the stick GTO is a good chunk faster.
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Rep Power: 400 yeah i've seen manual GTO's dip to 13.4's or so. but so far only seen autos at no better than 13.8.
either way as i said, keep in mind the speed of both cars (auto GTO and S2000) properly driven is pretty even.
either way as i said, keep in mind the speed of both cars (auto GTO and S2000) properly driven is pretty even.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
yeah i've seen manual GTO's dip to 13.4's or so. but so far only seen autos at no better than 13.8.
either way as i said, keep in mind the speed of both cars (auto GTO and S2000) properly driven is pretty even.
either way as i said, keep in mind the speed of both cars (auto GTO and S2000) properly driven is pretty even.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
uh, yeah. the auto GTO is about a 13.8 to 13.9 car. the S2000 is a 13.6-13.7 car. (automatic that is... i've seen some 6-speed GTO's getting into 13.4-13.5)
your car is not as fast as you think. stock for stock, it's quite a bit slower than any LS1 f-body.
it's a driver's race between an auto GTO and an S2000, IMO. but i think the stick GTO is a good chunk faster.
your car is not as fast as you think. stock for stock, it's quite a bit slower than any LS1 f-body.
it's a driver's race between an auto GTO and an S2000, IMO. but i think the stick GTO is a good chunk faster.
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Rep Power: 267 The only thing is, to get a s2000 into the 13's consistently, you have to keep the revs at insane amounts of rpms at all times, or they just fall flat on their face. The GTO on the other hand, mash the gas and go and you can easily drop into the low 13's.
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Rep Power: 400 don't even give me this "have to keep the S2000 at insane revs" bullshit.
I'm so tired of uneducated people who sit here and say crap like that. You have no idea wtf you're talking about. I break 13's just about every time, and consistently. on my WORST day (i couldn't do better than 13.9) , my worst time was still a 14 flat.
My best times are 13.7's. I have seen a couple 13.6's, and to my knowledge the best stock S2000 time thus far was 13.66.
The S2000 can actually do 0-60 in 5.2, not that weak *** 6.7 you listed.
And don't blame the car for bad drivers and bad times. the WORST run I ever had was when i bogged the start AND missed shifting to 2nd, and I STILL ran a 14.2. So don't give me this "insane revving" crap because you simply drive the car like you would any other.
Oh, and by the way, I normally launch at about 4500rpm.
and by the way, actually just flat out "mashing" the gas on a gto probably will NOT give you the best time. there's too much torque down low, so you either have to feather the clutch (manual) or feather the gas (auto) and try to work out the logistics of both in your launch.
I'm so tired of uneducated people who sit here and say crap like that. You have no idea wtf you're talking about. I break 13's just about every time, and consistently. on my WORST day (i couldn't do better than 13.9) , my worst time was still a 14 flat.
My best times are 13.7's. I have seen a couple 13.6's, and to my knowledge the best stock S2000 time thus far was 13.66.
The S2000 can actually do 0-60 in 5.2, not that weak *** 6.7 you listed.
And don't blame the car for bad drivers and bad times. the WORST run I ever had was when i bogged the start AND missed shifting to 2nd, and I STILL ran a 14.2. So don't give me this "insane revving" crap because you simply drive the car like you would any other.
Oh, and by the way, I normally launch at about 4500rpm.
and by the way, actually just flat out "mashing" the gas on a gto probably will NOT give you the best time. there's too much torque down low, so you either have to feather the clutch (manual) or feather the gas (auto) and try to work out the logistics of both in your launch.
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Rep Power: 267 lol, s2000 man, I'm sorry if you are offended by my comments, but I believe you have negated your own statements saying you have to launch at 4500 rpms, and stating that the GTO has so much torque you have to be careful when you "mash the gas". Why is it that you have vtec if you don't have to rev the crap out of it. All i'm saying is, with v8's you step on it, and you have that wealth of power down low. The s2000, you have to keep the revs high, that's not an uneducated statement, that's a fact.
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Rep Power: 400 you have to launch any car. do you think the car gives a **** whether you have to launch at 3000rpm or 5000rpm? no. in fact, it's LESS wear and tear on the clutch if you can do a straight dump (like on an S2000) rather than having to feather the clutch (like on an LS1)
and "keep the revs high"
last time i checked a race went like this:
launch... redline, shift, redline, shift, redline shift.
if you're racing, in general you are revving "high". unless you're trying to claim the GTO doesn't apply to the laws of physics and gearing, and you can shift at 2500rpm and still manage a 13 second pass.
so "rev the crap out of it" it's an uneducated statment to make, because any car racing the 1/4 mile is being "revved the crap" out of.
we all know a V8 has more torque down low, which simply means you have to launch it differently. but once you launch, both cars are "being revved the crap out of"
and "keep the revs high"
last time i checked a race went like this:
launch... redline, shift, redline, shift, redline shift.
if you're racing, in general you are revving "high". unless you're trying to claim the GTO doesn't apply to the laws of physics and gearing, and you can shift at 2500rpm and still manage a 13 second pass.
so "rev the crap out of it" it's an uneducated statment to make, because any car racing the 1/4 mile is being "revved the crap" out of.
we all know a V8 has more torque down low, which simply means you have to launch it differently. but once you launch, both cars are "being revved the crap out of"
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Rep Power: 267 OK OK, s2000, chill out, all I'm saying is your power comes at extremely high rpms compared to most other cars, if you don't believe that look it up. That's what makes a lot of OTHER drivers unsuccessful with their s2000's, including the ones i have seen at the track who do all they can to make it in the 14's. So whatever way you want to take my statements, take it as you will, I strongly believe on the street advantage goes to the average driver who is not able to keep the engine at 8000 rpm+ all the time. This is where a thing called torque eats up all these other average drivers alive.
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and t/a again, to me that's an ADVANTAGE to have all the power up top. why? because you spend the majority of your race (after the first 60' or so) in the upper regions of your rpms.
the only difference it really makes is how you launch the car. after that, both cars are in the upper eschelons of their rpms trying to get down the track as fast as possible.
i know you point out that these "average drivers" can only make mid 14's or whatever. but to be honest, for every S2000 you can point out that only ran a 14.5 or whatever, I can find an LS1 that ran a 14.5. and so on.... all cars get bad drivers, it's just unfortunate that S2000's seem to get more attention for some reason.
and as for torque.... you realize that if you factor in gearing, the S2000 puts down more torque than a mustang GT? with a final drive of 4.756, the S2000 tends to multiply it's measly 153lb/ft of torque quite well.
and t/a again, to me that's an ADVANTAGE to have all the power up top. why? because you spend the majority of your race (after the first 60' or so) in the upper regions of your rpms.
the only difference it really makes is how you launch the car. after that, both cars are in the upper eschelons of their rpms trying to get down the track as fast as possible.
i know you point out that these "average drivers" can only make mid 14's or whatever. but to be honest, for every S2000 you can point out that only ran a 14.5 or whatever, I can find an LS1 that ran a 14.5. and so on.... all cars get bad drivers, it's just unfortunate that S2000's seem to get more attention for some reason.
and as for torque.... you realize that if you factor in gearing, the S2000 puts down more torque than a mustang GT? with a final drive of 4.756, the S2000 tends to multiply it's measly 153lb/ft of torque quite well.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
what year Z28 are we talking? Pre-LT1 i hope?
..... even a stock LT1 Z28 would work a stock RSX-S at freeway speeds. especially into the top end like that. RWD advantage lost or not.
it sure as hell wasn't a 1998+ LS1 camaro.
i'm guessing it was either a pre-LT1 camaro Z28, or a very sickly LT1.
..... even a stock LT1 Z28 would work a stock RSX-S at freeway speeds. especially into the top end like that. RWD advantage lost or not.
it sure as hell wasn't a 1998+ LS1 camaro.
i'm guessing it was either a pre-LT1 camaro Z28, or a very sickly LT1.
I would of raced you if I had my old Camaro.. it was a 1992 with a 383 stroker with a blown supercharger and ran high 11s at the track
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But <10 mpg really doesnt make a good daily driver?
I miss that thing sometimes lol
But <10 mpg really doesnt make a good daily driver?
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ill race you...
2002 Trans Am 427 Lingenfilter Engine with vortech supercharger??? im only at 785hp to the wheels
2002 Trans Am 427 Lingenfilter Engine with vortech supercharger??? im only at 785hp to the wheels
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Originally Posted by Freebs
ill race you...
2002 Trans Am 427 Lingenfilter Engine with vortech supercharger??? im only at 785hp to the wheels
2002 Trans Am 427 Lingenfilter Engine with vortech supercharger??? im only at 785hp to the wheels
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
there's no way you have that car. why? because anyone with that car wouldn't post on a civic site and go "i'll race you". now
but I want to race him s2000 man 
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aha alll i said was "do you wana race" as in joken around.. but i guess you people take your 100hp 4bangers seriously around here.
humm and actually thanx but i do have the 427 in my trans am and the vortech supercharger... and i post in here because some one showed me this site with all you people with your 4bangers saying how fast your cars are ahaha only honda's i give props to are S2000's, thoughs are nice cars, and also have some ***** to them... so you wana be a internet tuff guy and call me a lier go for it ahaha i could honistly care less as i know both vehicals that are sitting in my garadge right now is have more then 100hp(ahaha even the sunfire).. and just because i miss spelled his name doesnt mean i dont have it in my car.
humm and actually thanx but i do have the 427 in my trans am and the vortech supercharger... and i post in here because some one showed me this site with all you people with your 4bangers saying how fast your cars are ahaha only honda's i give props to are S2000's, thoughs are nice cars, and also have some ***** to them... so you wana be a internet tuff guy and call me a lier go for it ahaha i could honistly care less as i know both vehicals that are sitting in my garadge right now is have more then 100hp(ahaha even the sunfire).. and just because i miss spelled his name doesnt mean i dont have it in my car.
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Originally Posted by Freebs
aha alll i said was "do you wana race" as in joken around.. but i guess you people take your 100hp 4bangers seriously around here.
humm and actually thanx but i do have the 427 in my trans am and the vortech supercharger... and i post in here because some one showed me this site with all you people with your 4bangers saying how fast your cars are ahaha only honda's i give props to are S2000's, thoughs are nice cars, and also have some ***** to them... so you wana be a internet tuff guy and call me a lier go for it ahaha i could honistly care less as i know both vehicals that are sitting in my garadge right now is have more then 100hp(ahaha even the sunfire).. and just because i miss spelled his name doesnt mean i dont have it in my car.
humm and actually thanx but i do have the 427 in my trans am and the vortech supercharger... and i post in here because some one showed me this site with all you people with your 4bangers saying how fast your cars are ahaha only honda's i give props to are S2000's, thoughs are nice cars, and also have some ***** to them... so you wana be a internet tuff guy and call me a lier go for it ahaha i could honistly care less as i know both vehicals that are sitting in my garadge right now is have more then 100hp(ahaha even the sunfire).. and just because i miss spelled his name doesnt mean i dont have it in my car.
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Rep Power: 0 and see atleast WhiteCastle dosent get all offended and just says he wants to race me... and whiteCastle i would race yea any time... S2000's would put up a good fight wouldnt mind racing one, one of these days.
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Originally Posted by Freebs
humm didnt see any were on this site saying you had to spell perfect now did i...?
last year Trans Ams were good cars. I like the Trans Am with the automatic performance rear axle. Peppy things they can even get the jump off a c5 vette coupe 98-00 right off the line. Thats before they changed the torque curve in 01 and added 5hp which GM always under rates.
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