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Old 05-20-2004
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Civic vs saturn

I got a 97 civic ex about 3 months ago and am going to being modifying it with the small budget I have. So far I've got a new intake, plugs and wires.

My friend has a saturn 97 sc2 with an intake. He says he would be beat me, I don't know who would win, any ideas?

oh ya both are manuals.
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u should win saturns r slow and i know cause my friend and cousin had one and my friend put i/h/e and 50 shot and only ran 15.3 so u should win. Take off some weight just in case
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I dunno because I raced a DOHC saturn (stock) and all I have is AEM Cold Air Intake and he beat me by about 1/2 car length. Saturn bodies are not aluminum, there plastic so there pretty light. 15.3 is fast for a saturn...stock civic ex runs like 16-16.7 so I think he will beat you but not by much.
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saturns might not look quick but they sure as hell are...totally depends on the drivers
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You would lose to the saturn. its not a drivers race.
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Well...

Sc2 w/o any mods, have atleast 154+ hp,

My girlfriend owns one I have driven it about 3 times for full days each, it is much faster then my civic, and its automatic (so is my civic), both are stock, it also outruns my 93' Corsica LT (automatic), which also has 154~, here is an example

This is quoted from another board:

Well, I said it would do it. I finally broke the saturn into the 9's Bone stock!

ran a 9.98@69.xx w/ a 2.30 60' on street tires.

Ok, I really want to know...Are their any other saturns that have ran in the 9's completly stock?

Thats 1/8 mile time btw, also it depends if ur friend is manual/automatic, they also either have SOHC or DOHC.
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He has the sc2 so it's the twin cam. He thinks it around 110 at the wheels give or take. I do know they're 124 hp stock at the crank.

Well this weekend we should be able to line it up and find out. I'll post the results.
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Unless I'm mistaken, the Saturns run a Cosworth engine. Easy to squeeze hp out of them.
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Cosworth isnt that ford? anyways the sc2's have like what 127 or 129 hp and 119 torque... have a tiny bit of parasitic tranny loss, and are really lightweight, maybe lighter than a civic.
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i know the new saturns are slower.....124hp to the crank....and they actually weigh a bit more
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it's your race to loose...two cams or not!
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You will probally loose. I pulled my friend's sc2 in first and second but hgot me by 2 cars when i shifted to third. Then he got a v6 mustang and i smoked him
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cosworth's motor is a 2.3 ford motor..they have been made here as a SOHC motor but made in the europe as a DOHC.....anyway cosworth's are supposed to run side by side w/ a supra.....anyone watched the "get away from stockholm"?......then you'll know what i mean....anyway back to the post......the sc2 may win for it has a way lighter body(2200lbs if am not wrong)......but you may have a chance.....
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i think you'll prolly lose. saturns are kinda fast, but they don't weigh that much to begin with. race him anyays tho. win or lose it's always fun! (more fun if u win...a lot more fun )
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I think Saturns are pretty quick (not a fast car at all but should be able to beat Civics(stock))
I know this is sad but I think that's the truth
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The Saturn SC2, *the kind me and my girlfriend were driving chris* can run a 15.1 IF it was a manual, had a friend of mine run it, all stock all the way down to the airbox. Which is a nice time for something such as that car throw a few mods on, you SHOULD be able to break 14.9, which are cars take alot more work to get to
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Originally Posted by ChaoticMav
The Saturn SC2, *the kind me and my girlfriend were driving chris* can run a 15.1 IF it was a manual, had a friend of mine run it, all stock all the way down to the airbox. Which is a nice time for something such as that car throw a few mods on, you SHOULD be able to break 14.9, which are cars take alot more work to get to

That must of been the kind of car I raced. I raced a Saturn but have no idea what kind, an older model. He had a car length on me from a 40 mph roll to about 80 when I started reeling and walking away from him, very slowly. Lol, at first I was like WTF?!?! I looked down to make sure I was in the right gear, lol. I know he had mods, at least an exhaust and intake. I could see the home made intake in his fenderwell, lol and he had lots of white smoke and a funny smell coming from his car. Spraying I assume? At that time I only had an intake. This was also in the Rsx-S.
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Originally Posted by zDs03Civic
I dunno because I raced a DOHC saturn (stock) and all I have is AEM Cold Air Intake and he beat me by about 1/2 car length. Saturn bodies are not aluminum, there plastic so there pretty light. 15.3 is fast for a saturn...stock civic ex runs like 16-16.7 so I think he will beat you but not by much.
Thats 15.3 that the Saturn ran was not STOCK. Intake, Exhaust, Header, 50 shot Nitrous.
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60 FT: 2.2605
330 FT: 6.4135
1/8 ET: 9.9089
1/8 MPH: 70.28
1,000 ET: 12.9352
1/4 ET: 15.5277
1/4 MPH: 87.18

Thats from a 93 SL2

N/A stock internals, unlightened saturn.



Then:
14.64 in 2001 sl2 automatic n20

Also:
95 SC2
DOHC
NX-75 shot
paceshitter header
SDA CAI
SDA Cams
SDA Head
SDA IM
CCG pullys
Phantom grip
MSD wires
SPS TB
2 1/4 cat back
some weight reduction
blad *** street tires

13.3 @ 107 mph

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stock 92 sl2 with a 50 shot

14.01
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A 1997 Saturn SL2 weights a little less than 2400lbs, has 124HP at the crank with 122lbs Torque. If the car is well taken care of then it would probably take you.
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looks like honda has lost this battle
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throw a rock at the saturn right before the race. it sould explode. good luck.
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this thread was older than dirt. how in the hell did you even find it. lol
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this thread was older than dirt. how in the hell did you even find it. lol
thats what he does. Finds thread older than dirt and brings them back up.
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i saw a saturn beat a 6th gen with intake headers and exhaust the other day it was some funny ****
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haha....at least his saturn can't beat your civic in appearance.


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