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Old Mar 26, 2004
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Silver Civic on Hwy 90 (Houston)

Was on my way home last night from downtown when I pulled up next to a silver vic at Hwy 6 and Hwy 90, did not pay to much attention to it at first did not think they would want to play. But to my surprise the driver did. So he/she creeps up next me, I stay in third around 65 mph and wait for him/her to take the jump, they make no move so I make a move, pull a little more than a car then shut down in the middle of fourth, driver wants to go again same mph same end result only I shut down at the top of 4th. Sitting at the next light at the Grand Parkway I slowly roll off the line but the driver is anxious to go again and jumps out there a little bit. I play a little catch up, this time I stay in third around 55 and wait for the move, driver shifts down and I step on it again for a sec then my radar detector went off. Driver gets in it a little and then eases out, notice it was a false signal so back to the fun we go again but this time the drive seems to have a little extra "sumthin sumthin" for me and scoots a bit quicker than the previous two runs, we did not really get a clean run that time because we were coming up on traffic this time the driver was about the same distance in front of me as I was infront of him the other two races. Anyway I was just wondering if anyone (or if the owner frequents this site) knows anything about this car, it runs good (to give you an idea of how I run I beat a VR6 from a 20 punch up to 90 and held of a 2000 on the Beltway starting at around 70 mph could have been the driver but I still held him at my rear bumper) and plus I am surprised to see another modified 7th gen vic on this side of town (Richmond/ Rosenberg area) that will actually give it a go. Here is the description from what I could tell:

Silver Civic
AEM stickers on pilot windows
exhaust system (don't know what kind)
black rims (about a 7 spoke from what I could tell, give me a break it was 11:30 at night )

Anyways to the driver thanks for the fun run.

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so you also have a civic ? and you beat an s2000? I hope you have a turbo in your car.
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7 spokes how could u see how many spokes if you were going that fast at night.
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Originally posted by Master
7 spokes how could u see how many spokes if you were going that fast at night.
I could tell the number of spokes because I was sitting next to it at the light at Hwy 6 & Hwy 90, and then I looked at the car more closely when we were sitting at the light at the Grand Parkway.
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Originally posted by 00celicagts6spd
so you also have a civic ? and you beat an s2000? I hope you have a turbo in your car.
Yes I have a Civic, no turbo, and I held the guy at my rear bumper.
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the S2000 was messing with you.

no offense, but an S2000 would eat you for breakfast.
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He very well may have been, and no offense but that car is not fast.
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Funny no one wants to question the VR6 race but are more than happy to say things about the "almighty" S2000.
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lol... not that fast. as compared to what? your car? a vr6?

VR6's are slow in stock form. They are about a 16/high 15 second car.

S2000 are high 13's.

high 13's > high 15's

So again... define "all that fast".... if you're comparing it to your car, then it's definitely "FAST"
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I am sorry did I rattle your cage? Poor baby.

Anyway, the VR6 was not completely stock, it has a cold air intake and an exhaust system, and some tunning. I am not talking about 1/4 mile times, I am talking off of a role and on the Beltway, and compared to my Z28 they are slow, compared to the many cars I have built they are very slow, compared to my Civic showroom for showroom hands down my Civic is a turd but not in its current state of being.
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Besides this damn post is not about those two races it is about the silver vic...so PLEASE if any one from HOUSTON knows this car let me know.
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rattle my cage? no need for personal attack.

An intake and exhaust on a vr6 is still a slow vr6.

And the only stock Z28 an S2k is slow to would be an LS1. An S2000 will give an LS1 a good run for it's money, but a stock LT1 Z28 or Camaro SS or any other LT1 F-body is slower than an S2000.

So again... slow is a relative term. And if you truly want me to compare, show me another stock roadster that costs $30,000, is a monster on the track, and can still run a 13.7 1/4 mile.

And S2000's are even better from a roll than off the line. so again... slow is a relative term.

S2000's aren't slow compared to camaros either, albeit camaros respond to mods better.
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And back to your post... you're the one who got all defensive when i told you an S2000 would eat your car for breakfast.
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First off, personal attacks, let's see, I don't know you or your car nor do you know me or my cars, but I believe you made the brash comment of "eat my lunch" and "lol... not that fast. as compared to what? your car? a vr6?", maybe I read in some cockiness in your posts that was not there and if that was not your tone, then I appologize.

Secondly my Z is not stock, I raced a guy here who had one with a SC and different ring and pinion a few years back and he lost...this was not a random street race either...I knew the guy from a local hotspot, he wanted to run so we went to a farm street in BFE and ran...I give him mad props for having a sweet ride (which I admit the cars are sweet) but like you said it does not take well to mods.
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When I got the Z in 1996 it ran a 13.4 on street tires bone stock at HRP.
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If you ran an LT1 camaro at a 13.4 then you must be jesus himself, because no one has ever run a 13.4 on a stock LT1 on stock tires. ever. in fact, to my knowledge, the best noted time thus far on a stock LT1 was a 13.7.

If you ran a 13.4 then you either didn't have an LT1, or you had some kind of modifications.

Try going onto LS1.com and tell them your stock 1996 LT1 ran a 13.4 and see what happens.
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got any proof of runnin a 13.4 stock? and the point still is the civic is slow and not even remotely near the same level as an s2000. the vr6 is not worth arguin about cause they are slow and heavy. Unless you have weight reduction, full bolt ons , and a hefty shot of juice you arent even gonna come close to an s2K.
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Originally posted by S2000man01
If you ran an LT1 camaro at a 13.4 then you must be jesus himself, because no one has ever run a 13.4 on a stock LT1 on stock tires. ever. in fact, to my knowledge, the best noted time thus far on a stock LT1 was a 13.7.

If you ran a 13.4 then you either didn't have an LT1, or you had some kind of modifications.

Try going onto LS1.com and tell them your stock 1996 LT1 ran a 13.4 and see what happens.
exactly
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I live in your area, can we set up a few races? I'll give you 1 car length head start and we can go form a dig or roll. If I beat you, i'll give you another carlength etc, until I can't bring you in closer. How does that sound? S2000 are slow right?

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^^ ha ha nice. make sure you video tape it too. lol I bet he'll say how bout I bring my camaro. lol
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wow...i can beat a s2000 with the vic....and then i wake up!
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Originally posted by S2000man01
If you ran an LT1 camaro at a 13.4 then you must be jesus himself, because no one has ever run a 13.4 on a stock LT1 on stock tires. ever. in fact, to my knowledge, the best noted time thus far on a stock LT1 was a 13.7.

If you ran a 13.4 then you either didn't have an LT1, or you had some kind of modifications.

Try going onto LS1.com and tell them your stock 1996 LT1 ran a 13.4 and see what happens.
My car did run 13.4's stock, with some free-mods (those are things you can do to the car to gain extra hp without having to spend money or replace parts) I could care less if you believe me or not, With only a cat-back, hurst shifter, MTI cold air induction and Hypertech computer tunning I ran a 13.00 flat at 110 mph ( can you say wheel spin)...but again I could care less if you believe me. By the time I raced Wes in his S2000 I had BBK headers, 3 inch exhaust with a cut out, McCloud Twin disk clutch, Holley 58mm T-body, 4.10 Strange Ring and Pinion, full Hotchkis suspension, Hal Q-A1 12 way adjustable shocks, MSD ignition and coil, a couple of free mods, some computer tunning, the MTI original production 4 inch cold air intake an Air Foil. Does anyone on here know who Cou or Nick Calergis is, I ran Nick in his 96 Vette (still stock before MTI got their hands on it) and hung with him and I ran Cou in his Z28 (Black 94 with a white skunk stripe) with some bolt ons (Nicks car had bolt-ons) and hung next to him when my car was still stock.

*edit* I forget about the underdrive pulley kit and wires and some other pitally B.S.



Originally posted by 00celicagts6spd
got any proof of runnin a 13.4 stock? and the point still is the civic is slow and not even remotely near the same level as an s2000. the vr6 is not worth arguin about cause they are slow and heavy. Unless you have weight reduction, full bolt ons , and a hefty shot of juice you arent even gonna come close to an s2K.
I already said I wish I could find the time slip, but that was back in 1996, if you go to Houston-Imports.com and ask a guy named DV8 about my car he will tell you how it ran.

As for the civic I do have full bolt ons on the car and not your generic B.S. that most ppl on here get, I have been building and tunning cars since 1992, I don't just bolt stuff on and hope that I get the power out of it, I do alot of research and tunning to make sure that I am running a proper set-up. If you look in my first post I state that it could have just been the driver but I still held him to my rear bumper...plain and simple.

Originally posted by SpEeDxXxRaCeR
I live in your area, can we set up a few races? I'll give you 1 car length head start and we can go form a dig or roll. If I beat you, i'll give you another carlength etc, until I can't bring you in closer. How does that sound? S2000 are slow right?

-Trung
Sure I will take you up on that, I am curious. PM me and we can talk. As for S2000's being slow compared to my Z and other cars I have had in my posesion they were. All I know is this guy came hard charging at me in a white S2000 with a black roof (and it was stock) on the Beltway after I left the Honda dealership at 59 and the Beltway We ran from the toll booth before you get to I-10 and I held him at my back bumper before I had to exit when I shut down to exit I was doing somewhere in the neighborhood of 130-135. If you want to replicate the run it will be from roll starting at around 80 mph.

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Again... with just bolt ons, your civic will NOT hold off an S2000.... especially on an 80-130mph run. lol


And a completely stock Z28 LT1 camaro will not run a 13.4


You just admitted your camaro wasn't stock, and yes I know the tricks you can do to get more hp out of the camaro. Just cuz it's a freebie or near freebie mod, doesn't mean it's not a mod.

Hence NOT STOCK. duh. So you ran a 13.4 in a MODIFIED LT1. Glad we are clear on that.
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Forget this, this is getting stupid...

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I did not replace any parts I just removed some stuff and moved some hoses around for cooling purposes. The car is still stock, nothing has been replaced by another aftermarket part hence it is still stock.
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I honestly can't believe I am going to sit here and argue Symantec’s with you on what is classified as stock and not stock.

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All I wanted to know is who the kid is ran last night, cuz his or her car moved really well on the last punch...
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^^ I don't care what bolt ons you have or how you tune them you are NOT going to hold off an s2k. I should hang with a stock one and a crappy driver but my car is not stock NOR is it a civic. worst driver I've ever seen at a track ran a 14.8 and had like a 3.xx 60' 14.8 is a bit far fetched in a civic also from a roll theres no messing up a launch.

NOT HAPPENING.

your camaro musta been as stock as my celica when I ran a 14.4 stock. did not spend 1 cent on it. can I honestly say my car was stock? not really. stock motor yes 100% stock hell no. Stock means str8 from the factory no changes but eh I've only been racing for a little while so what would I know.
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What kind of mods do you have in your civic? Maybe that'll clear everything up.
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stock, logistically speaking to most people, is how the car comes from the factory. even if your mods are "freebie mods" that you can do, you are changing the car to gain hp. hence. not stock.
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