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Old Oct 24, 2003
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03 LX Auto I/E vs. 03 Matrix XRS I/E

I Have A 2003 Honda Civic LX Auto With DC Sports Short Ram Intake ANd HKS Hi-power Rear Section I Raced A 2003 Matrix XRS Auto With Injen Long Ram Intake And TRD Axle Back Exhaust And I Smoked the **** out of him by like 2 car lengths but all i have to say is that VVT-I is HARDCORE he pulled up a whole hell of a lot on me when it kicked in His car sounds mean but its not
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the XRS have 180HP (same motor as the Celica GTS?)...I know its not to the wheels but its a considereable amount...Did he mess up or something?
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the XRS have 180HP (same motor as the Celica GTS?)...I know its not to the wheels but its a considereable amount...Did he mess up or something?
I have the same question in mind..............
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Ya, it also has the notoriously crappy auto transmission that is in the GT-S. Couple this tranny with AWD(which the matrix has) and you have yourself a slow *** car.
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I thought the XR-S cant have the 4WD... only the base engine can have it. But that doesnt help the auto tranny cause Sorry mangoEX, I know you beat cars in your auto but still............
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maybe it wasn't an XRS.
180hp vs 115hp?
I know the auto tranny on the matrix/celica is bad, but it ain't that bad.
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Old Oct 26, 2003
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No Its An XRS And He Gunned It bc Hes My boy and he even admitted that i **** on him its a 180 hp engine out of the celica but with a shitty auto and in like a minivan/station wagon form so it has a lot of weight on me and he had 2 people but i didnt really "kill" it it wsa like a car length
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The auto matrix XRS with I/E usually puts down about 151whp or about 40 more then the LX puts to the crank. I know they are teh major slow and an EX auto can keep up but I just can't see the lx doin it.
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next time i see him ill try to get a vid But The Thign is wit matrixes is it has NOOOOOO low end Power AT ALL so i got the jump off the line and kept the lead
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vids would be nice!
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XRS doesnt come in auto
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Originally posted by Nofxdawg
XRS doesnt come in auto

Them is fightin words.
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Originally posted by Nofxdawg
XRS doesnt come in auto
Um ......

You should really think before you post!! Cause the XRS DOES come in auto!

Last edited by 00celicagts6spd; Oct 28, 2003 at 12:51 AM.
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Re: Page 2 OWNED

Originally posted by 00celicagts6spd
Um ......

You should really think before you post!! Cause the XRS DOES come in auto!

Them is fightin words also...
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Re: Re: Page 2 OWNED

Originally posted by maxsin
Them is fightin words also...


Not fighting just educating!
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bah made a mistake dont get so butthurt
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after checking the toyota website, the XRS only comes in 6-speed, and is front wheel drive, the XR, however comes in 5-speed/front drive, auto/front drive, or auto/4wheel-drive

the XRS has 173 hp/130tq, the XR and base have 130hp/125tq
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Old Oct 29, 2003
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wtf they must have changed for 2004
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ok the matrix XRS for 04 is primarily 6spd some regional markets will carry auto but only a few. In 03 almost all of the regional markets carried the auto XRS. Because it's so selective for 04 they don't list it on toyotas website!

This is what I was told earlier from my friend who is a toyota engineer! He also happens to own an 03 auto XRS. lol
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lol
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I guess they finally realized how bad they messed up on the auto. lol
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I drive a gutted LX four door, I have I/E and I've been driving stick for a lot longer then my friend who recently bought a 2004 Matrix XRS 6 speed. He WORKED my SOHC no problem, keeping in mind that he is a shitty driver and he was probably not even redlining, not to mention his car is stock. Are you shitting me?
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ha ha
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on a side note, you could drive stick for eternity, but if you were tought by a poor driver, youll always be bad, whereas someone that is tought correctly and practices the right tecnique will easily surpass others, not saying you suck, just playin devils advocate
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Actually guys.....the 2003 models did come with automatic tranny.....for the 2004 its been discontinued.

As far as 180horses? Yes thats true but u should check its peak rpm....its at like 7000rpm......and the lift (high horsepower) kicks in at 6000.......before that.....its **** all. I believe it.......but once ur on the highway,,,,prepare to say" got raped"


the 6spd in different story though.....

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6spd matrix is still quite a bit slower then the GT-S. From the guys I've seen its about .4 slower.
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