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Man... the value package... it's horrendous!!!! well it aint bad. i've been doing minor mods to the car (05' coupe) and i wanna know your oppinion... is it worth modding anymore? i've got pics in my profile.. its a 05 coupe vp, at, its still under 4000 miles, got about $10,000 left on the loan. It almost seems like it's the EXACT opposite of what i really want. i wanted at least an Lx. but Manual tranny, its way better than Auto..

Would it be worth the price to swap tranny or should i just pay it off and trade it for following model civics?

Can Anyone name ALL the parts i mean DOWN TO THE VERY LAST BOLT, well not THAT detailed, necessary for a transmission swap? what do you think it might cost? i would really appreciate and advice. thanks

 
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vp is the same as the dx minus power windows/locks and it doesnt have a tach...

why not just trade in the car for a different one? the resale value is really good

 
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but i havent payed it off yet

 
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just take it to the dealer and see what they will give you for it.

 
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i can tell you havent driven a civic long... if your content for trading "up" to another 100hp car that might see 130 with a few k in mods, use the kickass resale value to get somthing that wont just depreciate in value and go slow. if you purchase a good condition FD, 300zxTT, mkIV supra, 3000gtvr4 or the like and keep it in that condition the value wont even drop... **** some of those cars are appreciating in value. personaly at the end of this year im selling for a 95 300zx TT, 500 bhp for the same price as mabie 170 flywheel hp in a vic.

not to knock anyone but if your just looking for performance your looking the wrong way, unless your just looking for a challenge = )

 
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hehe... i understand tha vics dont get up n go when it comes to hp, but its still a great value car... n i like the look of em.. trust me i ain't gon be a hard core performance guy either. i just like tha civic...

 
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i've considered other cars... evo VIII, skyline, all them other mind-blowing high potential cars. but where im from, there really is no point. nobody here is into racing... so i at least like a LITTLE challenge with a "not-so-fast" civic... haha.

 
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i love my civic, and personally im trying to get as much power outta mine as i can. the price tag on some of those other cars are just outraegous for me. only make 13k a year so there not a whole lot i can do. i still wouldnt trade it in for a faster car. insurance is already too high as it is lol

 
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you kno that brings a good point... .i make payments of 240 on my car and an INSANE EFFIN PAYMENT on insurance with PROGRESSIVE for 376 a month A MOTHAF*Ckin month!!! with all that im WASTIng on insurance... i could have paid off this car after 1 year..

 
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although i DO love look of 3000 GT... Civics will last generations man, blue book values last a longtime and its very popular... you know they even made a website... i forgot what its called.. lol. but really i do love those other cars.. im just being realistic, and aware of my present situation. that money pretty much controls how fast you can go haha.

 
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You've managed to have an entire conversation with yourself.

 
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vp is dx, dx has no power windows, no power locks and no tach

 
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Who the hell did you run over to get a 376 a month insurance? my friend drives an '04 STi and doesnt pay that much in insurance. Mine is only like $95/month through Allstate

 
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seriously, if you are paying more for insurance then you are for your car, you are getting hosed.

 
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i kno man... im 18, brand new car got my license like a month after my birthday... and it must be because its a NEW car. 05' 2 door coupe "honda civic" like the damn fast and the furious movie... i swear after that movie came out, insurance companies jacked up prices....
I have pretty much a perfect record so far.

the real reason i think is that its POTENTIAL to cost a lot in damage repairs, along with "statistics" of 18 year old drivers... and they really like to make a HUGE profit off guys like me... BAST@RDS!!!!

 
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is anyone gonna just answer his questions but besides the transmissions the other obvious things are, center console, pedals, shifter, not sure what else, i have no clue how hard it would be to change transmissions out, does anyone?

 
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he'd need a ecu too, unles he doesn't mind a cel

 
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well if he needed an ecu then he would have ot reflash the keys as well, right?

 
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yea, or get an immobilzer bypass

 
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i'd answer his tranny swap question, but if he'd search he'd find a DIY in the F/I, Swap forum.

 
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heh.. thanks cambo.... you're not the first to tell me that, but at least you can scold me and earn "points" haha. thanks. i will do.

 
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i would suggest getting a full d17a2 (EX) motor with tranny. they're not too expensive. you can find the other parts at junk yards.

 
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also the cluster would need to be changed to, but i was looking in the f/i forums but didnt see much soem people said a few prices and stuff, but not really on parts and so forth, but im guessing transmission, shifter, shifter cables, ecu, center console, gauge cluster, pedals, thats all i know or can think of

 
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where might i start looking for that? d17 kit?

 
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Tranny swap...
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...ranny+and+swap

 
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i was just about to say that lol

 
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I drove a 3KGT VR-4 for a little over 2 years.. it was one of the best cars I've ever owned. This 2002 Civic LX I bought last tuesday is quite the different world.. But I agree completely on the depreciation values, and sheit, just gas mileage/price without having to get premium gas is worth it (gas is rising and who knows when it'll come down and/or where it'll temporarily peak at). Plus, with Civics and hondas in general there's so many aftermarket parts, and the prices of the parts are considerably less than 3KGTs, and many of those other beasts..
But, all in all, after the initial shock of losing that ~300 horsies, AWD, and TT, I think for the most part I am happy with my purchase/change. It'll just take some more time to get used to

 
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yeah driving a vr-4 and driving a civic really makes you think twice about your decision. i love vr-4s.

 
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Progressive must be ripping you off. I have a 2005 Honda Civic Lx and my insurance with Progressive is only 100/month. I'm 17 with 2 accidents (Both not at fault) My 2003 Honda Civic got totalled 3 months after my parents bought it for Christmas in 2003. I got a Kia after that and it sucked. Bought my 2005 LX 2dr Coupe in March. Insurance not too bad.

 
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it also is probaly your coverage, i have progressive as well go figure, same 2005 lx sedan, it was 2000 for 6 months for me and my girl but we have like almost the highest coverage available so our asses are covered if need be, if your only paying 600 whats your coverage?