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Old Apr 21, 2004
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Unhappy scary morning

Ok so yesterday morning when I was heading to school down the road some lady speeds out of a side road once I saw the nose of her car from around a suburban turning on that road i slammed on my brakes, unfortunatly that wasn't enough, I ended up t-boning her, her jeep grand cherokee swerves and then topples over on to the roof. I try to rush out of my car but my door only is able to open about a foot so I squezz out, the lady made it out with out a scratch thank god. The lady was crying and I felt bad even though it was not my fault, well we started talking when she calmed down and she said that she couldnt see my car because of the suburban turning in the right lane. Anyways it really sux, i'm just so glad she is ok. My car is not so good the engine appeared to be pushed back 2 inches, the front is all crumpled and yet the airbags didnt deploy which I found odd... the lady's car is definitly totalled, everyone is telling me not to feel bad for her because she shouldn't have gone across but she was so sweet. I don't know. But anyways with the engine bay pushed back and all the front messed up does that sound like its totalled? And if there was enough force for the engine to be pushed back 2 inches shouldnt the airbags have deployed?
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Glad to hear your okay. Where did this happen at? And I think you REALLY need to be going fast for the Airbags to deploy, cause I've rearended a Durango before and slammed into their trailer hitch and nothing...
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Im glad you're OK.. The SRS should have deployed. Most frontal airbags are designed to inflate in crashes equivalent to hitting a solid barrier at 10-12 mph. Some manufacturers use different inflation thresholds depending on whether people are using their safety belts. Thresholds of 10-12 mph are typically used for unbelted occupants, but thresholds are higher -- about 16 mph -- for people with belts because the belts alone are likely to provide adequate protection up to these moderate speeds.

You should not feel bad, because she should not have pulled out if her path of vision was blocked by another vehicle..

I believe the car would only be totaled, if either A. the frame is bent, or B. the estimated damages are more than what the car is worth. (I could be wrong on either, Im not in insurance)..

Got pics of the cars?


Again, I'm glad your alright.
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Wow, I'm glad you and the lady came out allright.

Don't let anyone discourage you from feeling sorry for the other person. She lost a buttload of cash on that one, not to mention her insurance will have a new figure on it for the next 3 years. Feeling sorry in a situation is fine, just so long as you remember that she's buying you a new car.

Without seeing it, it's hard to say. That being said, on a uni-body construction (which Vic's are) if the engine moves, the car is dead. Here's an easy test, can you open and close all the doors PROPERLY? And do the body panels including the trunk still line up? I the answer to and of these is no, you're car *is* totaled and will never be the same no matter what the insurance company(s) say to the contrary. Don't let them jew you out of a new car!!! (no offense to any Jews on the board, figure of speech) Another good sign is if the engine/tranny has moved. Since it has, look at the lateral engine mounts (the ones on the sides) if the bracket they bolt to is not bent or cracked off the frame, your car is dead. If it's bent/cracked you stand about a 10% chance of the unibody still being road-worthy. Another thing to check for damage are front suspension components, if they look severley damaged or ripped off the frame, the car is done.

Airbag deployment on the new Vics and on most newer cars in general is a science more compicated than Physics and Trig inbred. It won't deploy the bags unless it thinks that you're gonna hit the wheel. If you're Vic is/was so equipped, it would have fired the seat-belt airbags to hold you FIRMLY in the seat therefore not needing to deploy the full bags. Any more, it takes a hellova impact to pop the bags, as there were many more wounded than saved by the 1st gen airbags.

Please do keep us posted. I've seen a LOT of wrecked cars in my time and talked to quite a few insurance companies on behalf of the car's owners, that and I've got a few years of collision repair under my belt.
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salvage your few mods cuz I think the car is toast.
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Well I guess you won't be needing that Hood Strip piece anymore...
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well.. im glad that u r ok... sorry to hear all that..
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US insurance dosen't bill you more if it's not your fault.

You've gotta watch them though, the cops can say it's not your fault while the insurance pukes say it is your fault. If you get into a banger and your insurance goes up without it being your fault, call 'em up and find out whats going on.
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Glad you and the other lady are not hurt. That really sux though. Best case scenario is that the insurance adjuster claims you car totalled, and they pay you out for it.
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that really sucks
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I don't have pics unfortunatly, I might go get some at the shop sometime this week. Thanx for the help guys. I find out soon if its totalled or not.
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Where did this happen at?
prue road and south hausman
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I don't have pics unfortunatly, I might go get some at the shop sometime this week.
get one of the back for me. thanx.
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ok heres the update, they think the car will be fine, they will know for sure tommarow, the lady's insurance is going to pay my parents for a rental so i'm gonna drive my mom's pilot since im too young to drive a rental my mom will drive it. Everythings fine.
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Glad to hear your okay. Where did this happen at? And I think you REALLY need to be going fast for the Airbags to deploy, cause I've rearended a Durango before and slammed into their trailer hitch and nothing...
yeah the guy at Art's Paint and Body said at least 30 mph
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ok heres the update, they think the car will be fine, they will know for sure tommarow, the lady's insurance is going to pay my parents for a rental so i'm gonna drive my mom's pilot since im too young to drive a rental my mom will drive it. Everythings fine.
So your dream of driving the pilot to school with the music loud is finally coming true. It just cost you your civic...haha. oh well.
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that sucks dude, sorry to hear that
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Welp I belive she goes under the light today...
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Keep us updated.

Lets hope that you had equity on the car and get more out of it than you owed, that could help out a little with a new ride.

I'm still glad nobody was hurt.
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I don't really understand how bad the wreck was. You explained it one way to me personally then a little different here. If it's as serious as it initially sounded I doubt your car will ever be the same unfortunately. But if your airbag didn't deploy because you didn't hit hard enough then who knows.

I remember when I had the accident in my 91 Vic. After I got it out of the shop and drove it around for a week it just felt different and I got rid of it a month later. Kinda sad.

Hopefully your car comes out ok.
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AIRBAG INFO in case anyone cares.
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dammmn that sux im srry to hear that but im glad u both are ok. let us kno how evrything goes with the car and wat not..hope it all works out..
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ok heres the update so far the quote for the repairs is 5,439 dollars.. man im glad thats not comming from our pockets....
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ouch, yeah very nice to not having it coming out of your pocket!

What all did they have to replace?
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front bumper, power steering pump, airbag sensor, both fenders, hood, radiator, thats all I remeber I know theres more though
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Regardless, your car will not be the same...
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thanx, I think my car will be fine my dad's s2k was more ****ed up then mine in the front from his wreck and this shop managed to get it perfectly back so im sure they can do mine too
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