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Hey Spanky, why do you say that airstruts suck so you had to go with cylinders? Is there anything I should know about airstruts becuase I am goin to be getting airstruts soon.

 
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You dont get that much lift and the ride is like [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-puke.gif[/IMG] My car rides better with cylinders. But that is just me.

 
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[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/IMG] i want one of those

 
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then get it.. whats stopping you.. i think spanky still has his for sale...

 
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Ive got a question for spanky. I had a 87 mustang with bags which i had to cut and weld stuff to fit. Where i sat the bag was where my springs go, so i was just riding on struts and bags in the front and shocks and bags in the back. I loved it but it was a bumpy ride since i didn't have in springs in it. Is this the same for the kit you have. Is the cylinder the only thing the car is riding on for suspension. Can you get a better pic of the bracket you made so everyone can see it more clearly. Who is the best company to go with for 100% fit. Why did you have to make a bracket, the kit didn't come with it. please let me know by this thread or emailing me at lst_2001@yahoo.com thanks matt

 
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I was one of the first with air suspension in this nation and my car was basically a gineau pig with air suspension on a new civic... i havent read everything on this thread but ill give VALUABLE information to those interested in air suspension.... number 1 DONT GO TO A & G CUSTOMS ADVERTISED ON POWER 106 IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA hahah I just had to get that out of the way... I have mcpherson bags in the front and cylinders in the rear ... The mistake I've done with my car is that A & G customs cut my struts in front and drained the oil that's supposed to be in it, this accounts for the bad quality of the ride and basically the car steers sometimes wherever it wants to go on its own. I have been told u can put the bag mounted on the strut without cutting and draining of the strut. For those of you who already have done this you may go and repair your strut and maybe get some ride quality out of it and still be able to mount the bags, however for cylinder applications in front the strut must be cut to fit it in place. My rear was on bags before but they kept ripping and crimping in place, Used to tuck half of my rims and hop around 2 ft. off the floor. I replaced those with cylinders and the ride got somewhat better, i can reach 90 on the freeway now hahahah. but i sacrificed speed and ability to go lower. There are shops really good with air suspension and can make the RIGHT brackets in which the bags should b mounted in the rear without crimping and ripping as mine did. for those out in southern california i recommend devious customs shop or kustom workz. and as for the front to go lower... there is a place where they manufacture oversized mcpherson cylinders called brisland customs www.brislands.com ... to my knowledge this is the cylinders to go for but run pretty expensive... these should be used on the front struts of the car and i've heard dey could sit the front just about 2" under the lip of an 18" rim. Doing this would require for the strut to be cut however. But i've heard the cylinders have a nice feel to them and should ride just fine. My suggestion to bagging the rear would be to use a proper triple fold bag, not ur conventional double fold. Using this would help lift the car a little with just the right amount of tuck without the wheels hitting the wheelwell, this could be a very scary driving condition. Unless you decide to "tub" the rear wheelwells of your 2k civic i suggest you go with the triple fold bags and avoid the hassle of worrying about rubbing your tires while driving... its a b***h. As for my setup I run bags in front excentrix parker cylinders in rear 8 smc 1/2 in. valves, 1/2 in. lines , 7 1/2 gallon tank, 10 switches, and 4 firestone compressors sitting at around 250 psi. As for valves i suggest smc or parker valves, choosing the right valves makes a big difference in speed and reliability

 
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Check out my ride
BAGGED AND STUFFED WITH A 15" WOOFER

 
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are you using strut bags in the front? or are you using those bags over strut type deals.. cause i dont see why they would need to hack up the struts up front.. couldnt they just make custom brackets?

btw have any pics of your car? i'd love to see your car.. also there's a 7thgencivic meet coming up this sat feb 8th, it would be great if you could make it.. here's the link.. feb 8th meet its going to be in woodland hills but its going to end up in santa monica which isnt too far from you i dont think.. if you cant make it to woodland hills, it be koo if you could just make it to santa monica.

 
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I'm using the bag over strut ones... and yes they could of made better brackets but those idiots who installed it obviously didnt know what they were doing and started cutting and stripping like no tommorrow

 
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so where did you get your bags done at? you named a few places but not where exactly.. how much was it? who made the rear brackets? how much were just the brackets? oh and i edited my post up above.. i was just letting you know about a meet we have coming up this saturday

 
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haha im sorry you can look up both the places I named on the internet... my first recommendation would be devious customs( you'll never go wrong with these guys garaunteed ) at www.deviouscustoms.com, the next would be kustom workz out in whittier calif. www.kustomworkz.com ( not a very good webpage but has phone number on it ) these are the guys i went to fix out the bugs in my system remount the valves and soon to go there for reinstallation of rear bags. The brackets were actually free from a & g customs since they f***ed up so badly and so were the cylinders =)... it rides alrite now but i do wish i can sit lower so i decided to hell with it and go back with the bags in rear and mayb ill save a little money and replace the front with the brisland mac air cylinders ( i heard these stand abuse up to 4 ft. off the ground with no problems ) and the place i chose to have do this installation is devious customs ( they said they recently had a 2k civic slammed in the front, with the wheels butterflying at negative chamber!!! )

And as for the meet.. im going to be at ucla on sat. and since you guys will be cruising down to santa monica it's 5 mins away!!!... so let me know the exact location and approx. what time its going to be at.

 
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Hey civiconbags so is your car bouncy or how does it ride?

 
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i would say it rides pretty bouncy... but not as bouncy as it was with bags in the rear... im not sure how it would ride with cylinders in front tho.... id say it rides pretty good handling got much better... i can take corners faster than i could of with just springs, especially when you drop a corner [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG] its the most fun youll get out of a civic.

 
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The bag set up i have is the brisland mac air cylinders as far as bag over struts those things suck ***. all i run is parker, Viair and brisland mac air cylinders. My car rides good at a certain hight level rides like stock. I like how mine rides with no problems. Sorry to hear about ur encounter at that one shop. Be aware there are alot of shops just like that one everywhere. I juts do it myself and not have to worry about them f*****g up my ride.

 
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i found a good looking front setup at " Airbagit.com" which has a 2001-2003 civic setup with the lower strut and arm mounts and a reagular bag attached...it retailed for 500 for the pair....but the company that says up top reads "AIM" what do you guys think ? i have 2 options and thats one of them. http://www.truckn-store.com/product.asp?returnURL=default.asp&ID=22089

 
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i'm almost sure those are the ones civicpunker got from kmwperformance... he wasnt too happy with them...

 
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I would never buy anything from any company called AIM,Blowjacks, or AIr ride tech because there all the same company just different names to confuse the consumer. Alot of people think that my set up is alot but hey u get what u pay for. I love my set up plus i get a 5 year warrantee on it. U cant go wrong with that.

 
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yes dude hit on some key topics right on!!!!

 
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Air Ride Technologies is the most reliable and trusted air ride company in the industry. I think you may have confused that with AIM's Chassis Tech line. But i wholeheartedly agree with do not buy from AIM, Blowjax, Ricky Racer, etc. Its all poorly made, no warrenties on anything electrical. Hit or miss shipping.

Im still waiting to see one on the pavement, why doesnt anyone's bagged 7th gen lay out in the front? I was wanting to do bags over the factory strut up front, but does the factory strut bottom out before hitting the ground? Ive got a kaminari kit on my car, so all i want to do is lay that on the ground, am i going to have to go with cylinders and accumulators?

 
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Your not going to hit the ground with airstruts up front. Well I havent seen a 7thgen hit the ground up front. If u want u can just go with bags up front no struts and u will definetly hit the ground but its not gonna ride to good.

 
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good advice

 
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does anyone have any good pics of bagged 7thgens??

 
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here's a video of spanky's car on bags.. http://www.angelfire.com/dc/boomshak...ideos/high.WMV
no point in doing bags over strut because the struts are going to blow anyways.

 
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Bags with no struts??? how would the brackets look for such a setup?? plus u need the strut for the lower steering arm... or u could use a 2 1/2 in. steel pole for the steering arm and make a mounting plate on top for the bag but even then i think the bags would hit the tires... the only possible way to go lower from my experience is to use the oversized brislands cylinders and make brackets for the steering arm and go from there.. pretty simple.. im jus saving my money to buy those suckers... plus anyone in the la area hit me up.. the shop i work is startin to install air... im reinstalling my whole system rite now and from my opinion i think ill have the front sitting around 1" under the lip of an 18... ill keep u guys posted and let u know how everything goes and if u like wat comes out ... holla

 
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ya mon....lemme know how it turns out. pics too plez

 
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Has anyone heard of Cannover air suspensios?

 
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Cannover are air cylinders. I have heard from lots of people that I know and they tell me if u are gonna get cylinders go with Cannover. They ride the best. They have built in damping on them so u can adjust them. Heres the link Canover Or go here Canover air

 
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Actually a friend of mine knows the ppl @ kiyoshis..

He says that canover air suspensios ride like a dream..

I want to get it, but

1.- PRICE 3000usd range

2.- WEIGHT

 
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Yup they do ride damn good for being cylinders.

 
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Soon.....very soon I'll have my air suspension installed. Hopefully I'll be tucking my 19's up front a little. We'll see.