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RIDE of the TEIN FLEX

Old Sep 21, 2004
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RIDE of the TEIN FLEX

hey guys, just wondering if i can get some feedback on people who've sat in cars that use the TEIN FLEX full coilovers.

the spring is pretty damn stiff based on the numbers, so if anyone can tell me how the ride comfort goes, i'd really appreciate it.

also, how's the ride of the TEIN SS?
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Old Sep 21, 2004
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There is only one person with Tein flex and it is for an EP3. Ask him. They will be stiff but nothing you can't live with. Tein ss is comfortable.
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Old Sep 22, 2004
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HEY THATS MEEE heh but uhh yeh i had em in my coupe up until 2 weeks ago when i took em out and bought a 04 ep3...now theyre in it....ride is like he said nothing u cant live with actually it rides quite nice...compared to say skunk2 on aftermarket shocks/struts and especially oem shocks/struts....in the coupe u have to cut holes in the hood webbing to make them fit though so be warned of that if u do get em reason for this is the adjuster sticks up pretty high i dont have pics of how high but it went about 1/2 inch into the hood nothing major just need a dremel to cut the holes...any more questions about em im around
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Old Sep 25, 2004
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Yeah where can you buy them for a 2001 2dr ex. I have been looking everywhere and no one has them yet well not for our cars only the SS. I have talked witht eh guys from tein and they said they arent even out yet in the states that they should be here in a month or two or longer. here is the email from them but if you know where they sell them for the 2001 civic please let me know and tell me a price.

Curt,
Hello and thank you for your interest in TEIN High Performance
Suspension. For being able to lower your car and keep a full piston shaft
travel you would need to go with the Type Flex. Also, the Type Flex and
Type Super Street with pillowball uppermounts will be the only kits that are
EDFC compatible. We do not have an ETA on the release date yet but
hopefully in the next month or two they will arrive from Japan.
Best regards,
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Staff @ TEIN USA INC.
9798 Firestone Blvd.
Downey, CA 90241
Phone: (562)861-9161
Fax: (562)861-9171
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Old Sep 25, 2004
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Yeah where can you buy them for a 2001 2dr ex. I have been looking everywhere and no one has them yet well not for our cars only the SS. I have talked witht eh guys from tein and they said they arent even out yet in the states that they should be here in a month or two or longer. here is the email from them but if you know where they sell them for the 2001 civic please let me know and tell me a price.
EP3 specific tein flex fits on em2.
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Well if the Tein type Flex that fit the EP3 will the EM2 then why not buy the Flex for the DC5 since it will have a stiff compression rate then the EP3 Flex kit?????? Since the DC5 is heavier then the EP3 and the EM2.

Stats for the DC5
Front 8/448 SW080-01175 Rear 10/559 SA100-01150 P/U
ride height front -40 -1.6 rear -33 -1.3

Stats for the EP3
Front 8/448 SW080-01175 Rear 10/559 SA100-01150 P/U
Ride Height Front -33 -1.3 -27 Rear -1.1

Stats for the EM2
Front 12/671 SA120-01150 Rear 14/783 P/U
Ride Height Front -48 -1.9 Rear -54 -2.1

All of this came front the Tein website. Now the DC5 and the EP3 are the same P/N and all but for the EM2 they dont have the same P/N and they dont even have a P/N for the Rear. So do you know for a fact and have seen it done that a DC5 and EP3 suspension can fit and work Properly on an EM2 suspension without major modification. besides using a dremel to make little holes?????????
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I say you just go for Tein Super STreet
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i didnt know if u get SS that u can get pillow mount on front and use the EDFC.... interesting.. i just wish the SS went lower in the front...

i wonder if the FLEX goes lower in front than the SS..

CURT can u email them... and ask them the drop for the SS (official #'s compared to FLEX)



riley


Originally Posted by AceKicker
Yeah where can you buy them for a 2001 2dr ex. I have been looking everywhere and no one has them yet well not for our cars only the SS. I have talked witht eh guys from tein and they said they arent even out yet in the states that they should be here in a month or two or longer. here is the email from them but if you know where they sell them for the 2001 civic please let me know and tell me a price.

Curt,
Hello and thank you for your interest in TEIN High Performance
Suspension. For being able to lower your car and keep a full piston shaft
travel you would need to go with the Type Flex. Also, the Type Flex and
Type Super Street with pillowball uppermounts will be the only kits that are
EDFC compatible. We do not have an ETA on the release date yet but
hopefully in the next month or two they will arrive from Japan.
Best regards,
Sales

Staff @ TEIN USA INC.
9798 Firestone Blvd.
Downey, CA 90241
Phone: (562)861-9161
Fax: (562)861-9171
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Originally Posted by AceKicker
Well if the Tein type Flex that fit the EP3 will the EM2 then why not buy the Flex for the DC5 since it will have a stiff compression rate then the EP3 Flex kit?????? Since the DC5 is heavier then the EP3 and the EM2.
You want stiffer spring rates than ep3 specific?
DC5 is not that heavier than ep3.

If you get DC5 fullcoilovers, you need RSX tie rods.
Probably $100+ at dealer.
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Originally Posted by AceKicker
So do you know for a fact and have seen it done that a DC5 and EP3 suspension can fit and work Properly on an EM2 suspension without major modification. besides using a dremel to make little holes?????????
well considering i have had the tein type flex coilovers for about a year and i took them off my em2 and put em on my ep3 im positive it can and has been done....because i did it...i have the ep3r tein flex kit so any questions i can surely answer them to the best of my knowledge....now one thing that i must make clear is the ep3 has different tie rods like the dc5 and u will need an alignment right when u put these on the em2 or u will have a major toe problem and destroy ur tires...i waited a week and destroyed my tires oh well someone has to find out the hard way i guess
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Originally Posted by rijowysock
i didnt know if u get SS that u can get pillow mount on front and use the EDFC.... interesting.. i just wish the SS went lower in the front...

i wonder if the FLEX goes lower in front than the SS..

CURT can u email them... and ask them the drop for the SS (official #'s compared to FLEX)



riley
OK well the HUGE DIFFERENCE with the Flex and the SS is that on the Flex the main piston housing (the big tube that hold everything in) is adjustable. meaning that you can adjust the whole coilover up or down without having to tocuh the adjustment on the springs. In the SS the only way to lower it is to coil the spring all the way down to the bottom with the Flex you dont have to do it. Go and look in a Import car magazine. Look for one of the Tein ads look for the one that promotes the EDFC you will see A Flex coilover cut in half. well if you look at the main housing for the piston and you look towards the bottom where the arm for the control to connect you will see threads going all the way down to the bottom and at the very top edge of the housing where the bolts connect you will see the ring that you adjust to raise and lower the main tube. I found the pic that breaks it down in IMPORT TUNER magazine August issue pg 111 so if that helps you out on what to look for but the SS dont do that the reason why this is better is you can lower you car but keep your full piston length so you dont bottom out anymore. but here are the setting for the SS off of TEINs website


front max and min rear max and min
-38 -1.5 ~ -57 -2.2 -27 -1.1 ~ -67 -2.7

I hope this helps people out why the flex is better then the SS

But if I buy the EP3 kit and put it on my EM2 I will still need to take it to an allignment shop right?
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YES U MUST DO THIS.....the steering arm is different on the ep3 making a major toe in problem....ima have to take some pics today of the flex if i get the time....of all the greatness of it with the adjsutability and all have to take wheels off but yeh i thnk ill do that bbl with pics
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ok Im back with pics of the flex...
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rear


this is what i was talking about see how high the adjuster is that is the reason for cutting the hood webbing
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Now are these are on the EM2 or the EP3? but the pics help out alot. So you never had a problem with the main pillowmount bolt parttern going from the EM2 to the EP3? But thanx for all the info. the pics look good.
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pics are on the ep3 i traded the em2 in so no pics on the car at least not online i have some somewhere but not around to scan....no problems on the em2 dirrect bolt on besides the hood needs a hole put in it
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TEIN TYPE FLEX is comming out with the one that fits on EM2 models, so there will be no more fitment problems soon. The price is already released, but the product hasn't been officially released yet.

i was asking about the ride quality because i have the Hayame's right now, and the ride is friggin stiff and hell, and the shocks aren't adjustible, so i feel every bump on the road.

will the FLEX be like that? has anyone sat in a hayame suspensioned ride, and a TEIN FLEX suspensioned ride and can compare them?? ^_^

THanks for all the info guys
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teins been saying that for a year dont get me wrong they probaby are just like skunk2 was releasing their 88-91 crx exhuast in 2000 but it didnt come out untill 2003 so dont hold ur breath
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Hey are those camber plates aiming the right way? I just got the add-on upper bearing/camber plates for my KW V2s and they're both aimed in wierd directions... just wondering if aming perpendicular with the wheels is the correct way?

I'm pretty sure if you think the hayame's are too stiff, then tein flex is going to be a nightmare for you... that's the difference between a 700$ suspension and a 1700$ suspension... I shoulda gotten the tein flex, full damper travel at any height... can't be beat. After adding my pillowball upper bearing mounts, the car turns like 100% better, wish I had invested in them the first time.
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mine are pointing the right way....perpendicular to the wheels if they are straight and its not a nightmare they ride quite nice if u ask me
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