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Old Jul 12, 2004
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hummm no i didn't, but i'm gonna go try that now... thanks
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that didn't work.. guess i'll just have to wait for an alignment
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would installing the tokico shocks change the ride height in anyway from its stock form? cuz right now i am on skunk2 coilovers with stock shocks and i was wondering if i were to get the tokicos, would my ride height change, and if it does, how would it change (lower, higher)? thanks.
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Originally Posted by TuffVietta
would installing the tokico shocks change the ride height in anyway from its stock form? cuz right now i am on skunk2 coilovers with stock shocks and i was wondering if i were to get the tokicos, would my ride height change, and if it does, how would it change (lower, higher)? thanks.
If your stock shocks/struts are blown and sagging then the TOKICO's would actually raise it a bit. You really have nothing to worry about since you have adjustable sleeve coilovers.
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Ok, so the 14mm bolts don't work. I autocrossed today and on the way home I noticed that my steering wheel was crooked and the car was pulling left. By eyeballing the front wheels it looks like I may have lost some negative camber on the left side. I'm guessing the strut to knuckle bolts moved since they are too small for the knuckle. This sucks. Any suggestions?
Yeah, the same thing I said straight from the get go... drill the strut bracket to 16mm, then use the right crash bolts for the knuckle. I told you that was gonna happen a while ago.
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Old Jul 13, 2004
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Yeah I know. I just had to try before voiding my warranty. But anyway, my concern with drilling out the holes is how to go about doing it. I know I could just throw the struts under a drillpress with a 16mm bit, but some precision should be involved. If I make offcenter holes, the alignment will be off.
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Get a conical reamer. You're probably going to need a machine tool supply place, but find a 16mm conical reamer. Its a cone with drill flutes or cutting edges, you just gotta stick it in the hole and because its a cone, it'll seat into the existing hole on center. Then just fire up the drill press (or hand drill) and have at it.
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looks good!
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so how are the tokicos working out for you? Are you still happy with your purchase? thanks
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Originally Posted by dtexan
so how are the tokicos working out for you? Are you still happy with your purchase? thanks
I haven't gotten my car alligned yet, but so far they are way better than my blown oe shocks. Then again, I think cement filled shocks would be better than what I had before. As for performace, there is a noticeable difference between these and new oe shocks (my g/f has an 01 with new oe shocks) - the rear does not bounce nearly as much and the ride seems to be a bit firmer. The car seems to be much happier with hard turns as the body hops less and there is a bit less understeer. Overall, I am a satisfied Tokico owner!
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this might be a dumb question but i dont do much suspension work, i had my friends shop put on my lowering springs, but i thought i'd try and DIY putting on my tokicos and save some $$. do you need a spring compressor to install these? or any other kind of special tools?
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It depends. I didn't use one but it would sure make it a lot easier to do it.
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wow wrong forum

try the Forced Induction forum, there's also a little thing up near the top that says Search
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Originally Posted by EnProceso
this might be a dumb question but i dont do much suspension work, i had my friends shop put on my lowering springs, but i thought i'd try and DIY putting on my tokicos and save some $$. do you need a spring compressor to install these? or any other kind of special tools?
I used a strut spring compressor from autozone (it's free to rent... just have to put down a deposit) and it made the install quite easy. The hardest part of the job was bolting in the rear shocks. I took my time with it and it probably took me 5-6 hours including breaks and a test drive after i got the fronts on. Good luck if you decide to do it yourself.. oh and i'd also suggest a puller arm to get the tie bar out without damaging the tie rod boot (also available at autozone).
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so its a pretty hard install? think i should just take it back to a shop and have them do it since i dont really know a lot about suspension?
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If you include the lug nuts, its 12 nuts and bolts to remove on each side. 13 if you count the strut bolt. Thats for the front. The rear is 8 each side if you include the shock bolt and lug nuts. You need a spring compressor, tie rod separator(optional but recommended) a good set of hand tools, a floor jack and stands.

So 42 nuts and bolts, a good half a day or more later and your done!
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.........that answered my question, TO THE SHOP IT GOES! lol
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It's really not that hard of an install. It takes time and some effort, but there isn't that much to it. Before this install the only thing i've done is my sway bars which are a piece of cake, so i wouldn't really call myself a suspension whiz, but i took my time and didn't force anything and everything came out perfectly. Give it a shot if you've got the time and tools.
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It's not hard at all. If you read Mex's DIY spring install that will give you all of the information you need to do it. If you know how to turn a wrench you can pretty much do this. If nothing else, see if there's anybody in your area that can help you with it as this isn't a job to do alone. It's always nice to have an extra hand around and if someone's done it before they should be able to give you a hand.
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Here's how mine sits with Neuspeed Race Springs and the Tokico's



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Oops, sorry the pictures are so big, didn't realize they were that big.

well, compare that first pic to this one on the springs on stock shocks. Notice how much lower the rear end was on the stockers.
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What about your front's they look pretty low too. Can you take a side view picture on a flat ground of your fronts ? Preferable one that is not angled.
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I'll try to take one soon. These pics were taken by a friend of mine to get some pics to make me a new sig. The fronts actually lowered more when I put the tokicos on. WIth the back end sagging on stock struts the front was raised, now it's all evened out and sitting level.
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I tried installing it but I fail. SOmehow the front is too tall and I can't fit it in. Can you take a pix of the front top mount for me?
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too tall? I don't see how that is possible. Is the strut lined up properly? It can be kinda hard to get them in there, I had to have someone stand on the lower arm when i was installing mine to get that part to drop down low enough to where I could line up the top. Elaborate a little more so I can know what your problem is exactly.
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It's not hard at all. If you read Mex's DIY spring install that will give you all of the information you need to do it. If you know how to turn a wrench you can pretty much do this. If nothing else, see if there's anybody in your area that can help you with it as this isn't a job to do alone. It's always nice to have an extra hand around and if someone's done it before they should be able to give you a hand.
link to DIY , just in case anyone was wondering to find it.
hmm....have to read up on it, might think about doing the DIY again cuz i dont want to waste money on a shop, lol.
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Well I did 2 diy springs on my OE stocks and never have any problems. Seem the strut is an inch taller so it won't fit in (the lower control arm in the way). I tried many diff ways to fit it but I can't get it in....maybe I need to find someone to help me. I really dont understand here is the pix compare the hayame that I have.

The tokico is 4" diff in length compare to hayame. The only thing I can think of is the top bolt (the one holding the top mount) is not tight enough. If I can tighten it down an inch more it will fit however I can't seem to tighten it more. That's why I want to see a pix of the top mount to see how much I need to tight down. Everything is line up right, L top mount on L strut and the L arrow is facing the triangle and the little hole on the lower portion of the strut.

Here is a pix

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Originally Posted by EnProceso
link to DIY , just in case anyone was wondering to find it.
hmm....have to read up on it, might think about doing the DIY again cuz i dont want to waste money on a shop, lol.
Definetly DIY, it's too easy not to
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Originally Posted by dacivic
Well I did 2 diy springs on my OE stocks and never have any problems. Seem the strut is an inch taller so it won't fit in (the lower control arm in the way). I tried many diff ways to fit it but I can't get it in....maybe I need to find someone to help me. I really dont understand here is the pix compare the hayame that I have.

The tokico is 4" diff in length compare to hayame. The only thing I can think of is the top bolt (the one holding the top mount) is not tight enough. If I can tighten it down an inch more it will fit however I can't seem to tighten it more. That's why I want to see a pix of the top mount to see how much I need to tight down. Everything is line up right, L top mount on L strut and the L arrow is facing the triangle and the little hole on the lower portion of the strut.

Here is a pix
Your top mount seems to be tightened down about the same as mine from what I can see in the pic. It's not going to go any farther down. All of the arrows should point to the outside of the strut, towards the brake rotor and line up with the place where the two bolts hold up the hub assembly. Part of the problem might be from the Hayames. Since they are shorter than what you are putting on there the suspension geometry might be stuck in a little different position.

I'll try to explain this as best I can w/o having pics. Your stock suspension lower arm probably sat like this ___ then the shorter Hayame's caused it to do something like this / but not that severe an angle of course. What I would suggest is to have a friend help and try this. Put the car on stands and remove the strut assembly (hayame) from the car. Hold the brake rotor in your hand to keep the CV joint from flexing and have them put a foot on the lower control arm. Then tell them to apply a little weight to it and see if they can push it down a little. If they can the strut should be easier to get in. The strut is the same height as the OE ones from what I remember, its almost an exact duplicate just a little beefier. Hopefully this will help you to get it in.

Also what springs are you using, those aren't OEM are they?
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