tokicos installed w/pics
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would installing the tokico shocks change the ride height in anyway from its stock form? cuz right now i am on skunk2 coilovers with stock shocks and i was wondering if i were to get the tokicos, would my ride height change, and if it does, how would it change (lower, higher)? thanks.
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would installing the tokico shocks change the ride height in anyway from its stock form? cuz right now i am on skunk2 coilovers with stock shocks and i was wondering if i were to get the tokicos, would my ride height change, and if it does, how would it change (lower, higher)? thanks.
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Ok, so the 14mm bolts don't work. I autocrossed today and on the way home I noticed that my steering wheel was crooked and the car was pulling left. By eyeballing the front wheels it looks like I may have lost some negative camber on the left side. I'm guessing the strut to knuckle bolts moved since they are too small for the knuckle. This sucks. Any suggestions?
Yeah I know. I just had to try before voiding my warranty. But anyway, my concern with drilling out the holes is how to go about doing it. I know I could just throw the struts under a drillpress with a 16mm bit, but some precision should be involved. If I make offcenter holes, the alignment will be off.
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Get a conical reamer. You're probably going to need a machine tool supply place, but find a 16mm conical reamer. Its a cone with drill flutes or cutting edges, you just gotta stick it in the hole and because its a cone, it'll seat into the existing hole on center. Then just fire up the drill press (or hand drill) and have at it.
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so how are the tokicos working out for you? Are you still happy with your purchase? thanks
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this might be a dumb question but i dont do much suspension work, i had my friends shop put on my lowering springs, but i thought i'd try and DIY putting on my tokicos and save some $$. do you need a spring compressor to install these? or any other kind of special tools?
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this might be a dumb question but i dont do much suspension work, i had my friends shop put on my lowering springs, but i thought i'd try and DIY putting on my tokicos and save some $$. do you need a spring compressor to install these? or any other kind of special tools?
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so its a pretty hard install? think i should just take it back to a shop and have them do it since i dont really know a lot about suspension?
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If you include the lug nuts, its 12 nuts and bolts to remove on each side. 13 if you count the strut bolt. Thats for the front. The rear is 8 each side if you include the shock bolt and lug nuts. You need a spring compressor, tie rod separator(optional but recommended) a good set of hand tools, a floor jack and stands.
So 42 nuts and bolts, a good half a day or more later and your done!
So 42 nuts and bolts, a good half a day or more later and your done!
It's really not that hard of an install. It takes time and some effort, but there isn't that much to it. Before this install the only thing i've done is my sway bars which are a piece of cake, so i wouldn't really call myself a suspension whiz, but i took my time and didn't force anything and everything came out perfectly. Give it a shot if you've got the time and tools.
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It's not hard at all. If you read Mex's DIY spring install that will give you all of the information you need to do it. If you know how to turn a wrench you can pretty much do this. If nothing else, see if there's anybody in your area that can help you with it as this isn't a job to do alone. It's always nice to have an extra hand around and if someone's done it before they should be able to give you a hand.
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Oops, sorry the pictures are so big, didn't realize they were that big.
well, compare that first pic to this one on the springs on stock shocks. Notice how much lower the rear end was on the stockers.
well, compare that first pic to this one on the springs on stock shocks. Notice how much lower the rear end was on the stockers.
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I'll try to take one soon. These pics were taken by a friend of mine to get some pics to make me a new sig. The fronts actually lowered more when I put the tokicos on. WIth the back end sagging on stock struts the front was raised, now it's all evened out and sitting level.
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too tall? I don't see how that is possible. Is the strut lined up properly? It can be kinda hard to get them in there, I had to have someone stand on the lower arm when i was installing mine to get that part to drop down low enough to where I could line up the top. Elaborate a little more so I can know what your problem is exactly.
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Originally Posted by clownprince
It's not hard at all. If you read Mex's DIY spring install that will give you all of the information you need to do it. If you know how to turn a wrench you can pretty much do this. If nothing else, see if there's anybody in your area that can help you with it as this isn't a job to do alone. It's always nice to have an extra hand around and if someone's done it before they should be able to give you a hand.
hmm....have to read up on it, might think about doing the DIY again cuz i dont want to waste money on a shop, lol.
Well I did 2 diy springs on my OE stocks and never have any problems. Seem the strut is an inch taller so it won't fit in (the lower control arm in the way). I tried many diff ways to fit it but I can't get it in....maybe I need to find someone to help me. I really dont understand here is the pix compare the hayame that I have.
The tokico is 4" diff in length compare to hayame. The only thing I can think of is the top bolt (the one holding the top mount) is not tight enough. If I can tighten it down an inch more it will fit however I can't seem to tighten it more. That's why I want to see a pix of the top mount to see how much I need to tight down. Everything is line up right, L top mount on L strut and the L arrow is facing the triangle and the little hole on the lower portion of the strut.
Here is a pix
The tokico is 4" diff in length compare to hayame. The only thing I can think of is the top bolt (the one holding the top mount) is not tight enough. If I can tighten it down an inch more it will fit however I can't seem to tighten it more. That's why I want to see a pix of the top mount to see how much I need to tight down. Everything is line up right, L top mount on L strut and the L arrow is facing the triangle and the little hole on the lower portion of the strut.
Here is a pix
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Originally Posted by EnProceso
link to DIY , just in case anyone was wondering to find it.
hmm....have to read up on it, might think about doing the DIY again cuz i dont want to waste money on a shop, lol.
hmm....have to read up on it, might think about doing the DIY again cuz i dont want to waste money on a shop, lol.
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Originally Posted by dacivic
Well I did 2 diy springs on my OE stocks and never have any problems. Seem the strut is an inch taller so it won't fit in (the lower control arm in the way). I tried many diff ways to fit it but I can't get it in....maybe I need to find someone to help me. I really dont understand here is the pix compare the hayame that I have.
The tokico is 4" diff in length compare to hayame. The only thing I can think of is the top bolt (the one holding the top mount) is not tight enough. If I can tighten it down an inch more it will fit however I can't seem to tighten it more. That's why I want to see a pix of the top mount to see how much I need to tight down. Everything is line up right, L top mount on L strut and the L arrow is facing the triangle and the little hole on the lower portion of the strut.
Here is a pix

The tokico is 4" diff in length compare to hayame. The only thing I can think of is the top bolt (the one holding the top mount) is not tight enough. If I can tighten it down an inch more it will fit however I can't seem to tighten it more. That's why I want to see a pix of the top mount to see how much I need to tight down. Everything is line up right, L top mount on L strut and the L arrow is facing the triangle and the little hole on the lower portion of the strut.
Here is a pix

I'll try to explain this as best I can w/o having pics. Your stock suspension lower arm probably sat like this ___ then the shorter Hayame's caused it to do something like this / but not that severe an angle of course. What I would suggest is to have a friend help and try this. Put the car on stands and remove the strut assembly (hayame) from the car. Hold the brake rotor in your hand to keep the CV joint from flexing and have them put a foot on the lower control arm. Then tell them to apply a little weight to it and see if they can push it down a little. If they can the strut should be easier to get in. The strut is the same height as the OE ones from what I remember, its almost an exact duplicate just a little beefier. Hopefully this will help you to get it in.
Also what springs are you using, those aren't OEM are they?





