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Old Jul 15, 2004
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ok i need help a every drive will coil over gound control and tokio gas will they do a good job ?? or the will behard just like oll the othere coilover ??


o should i put tokio gas and lower spring ???
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ok i need help a every drive will coil over gound control and tokio gas will they do a good job ?? or the will behard just like oll the othere coilover ??


o should i put tokio gas and lower spring ???
GC are pretty stiff and a nasty ride imo. and the tokicos BLUES are a pretty good ride if you drop a car around 1.5 inches or so anything lower will get a rougher ride. imo GC aren't worth it. the money u pay for GC and decent shocks will give you almost enough to buy a true coilover system like B&G or tein or something
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ok lets say that the ride quality doesn't matter that much...basically I want my car to be as low as possible but still be "every day driveable" because I'm bout go to college and I'll be driving it bout every other day. What springs would be the best for my application? I'm thinkin the neuspeed race (2.25 front/2 back) would be good. Alot of people say they are great springs.
freind has neuspeed. they are pretty good if you match them with a good shock. they are good for the money. but save up and get a coilover system if you are able to
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so is better if a get me a true coilover sytem ????????? and it would not be hard ?????
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and how much is the ss ?? and the Gb ????????????
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i mean GC? how much are they
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Originally Posted by 7thgencivic9
ok lets say that the ride quality doesn't matter that much...basically I want my car to be as low as possible but still be "every day driveable" because I'm bout go to college and I'll be driving it bout every other day. What springs would be the best for my application? I'm thinkin the neuspeed race (2.25 front/2 back) would be good. Alot of people say they are great springs.
If ride quality does matter that much, then neuspeed race isn't to bad. The sports a little better for daily driving though, they won't scrape that much. My problem with the race series is that they are not stiff enough to compinsate for the drop. So if you hit a hole, you'll be hitting the bump stops. The other big problem is with the struts. Our cars have some wierd strut stuff going on (there are lots of DIY theards on this) and you'll have to cut the factory struts and use part of it on your Koni's. If you aren't planning on doing that your self, labor is going to kill you to have these put on. You may want to get some quotes from local shops before buying the stuff. My 0.02 cents, buy the time you pay for all that, you probably could have had a set of coilovers. The spring and strut stuff is good for a guy like me that only has one purpose for my car, to handle well on the road and road courses. So I use the same spring rates and ride hieght for all that stuff. If you want a slammed car, buy some coilovers so you can adjust it to the conditions you want.

But, if you really want spring strut combo, Neuspeed is always good for Honda, Honda suspension is what Neuspeed's reputaion is for.
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stop postin this stupid sh*t in this forum on suspension man

YES SIR, what ever you say, SIR
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How much are we talking for installation on the struts?
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Originally Posted by 7thgencivic9
How much are we talking for installation on the struts?
I do everything my self, so I never looked into price, but I would guess 200 give or take 50, but that's just a guess. I would really look into a GOOD shop by you that actually knows how to do this and get a quote. But try to go to a performance place where they know about this problem and what it involes because if they don't, they may give you a cheap price for it, then they'll either jack the price up after the work is done, or if they keep their word they'll probably do a bad job becasue they don't want to waste any more money on it.
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thanx for the advice...I seriously doubt I could do this myself. I don't know a lot about suspension as u can tell. The problem is that with a lot of the full coilovers, they don't go as low as I want. I don't want just a regular 1-2 in drop. But people are telling me that if I am spending the money for aftermarket shocks/struts and springs that I should just have bought coilovers...i hear the hayame's go pretty low...but I will have to find some coilovers that have a good frop before i decide to just save up for full coilovers
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You could probably get a used set of Hayames on this site for pretty cheap. I'm not sure how low they go though, never really looked into it.
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yeah but u get what you pay for...and I don't have the money for the upkeep of the hayame's...some people say they work fine...some people have problems...i can't afford the gamble of hayame's
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ok...i'm going to narrow this down a little bit...if I get springs I want at least a 2 inch drop in the front and back also...so neuspeed and skunk2 springs fall in that category...if i go coilovers i'll go full coilovers...i'll go either tein or B+G...let's say price doesn't matter for right now...i am fixing my car up as a show car but I also want it to handle good and I am doing performance parts as well...it will be an all around street/show car. I want it hella low (all the time...not just at shows), handle decent, and ride quality doesn't matter...so I think from what everyone has said so far that the springs/struts mightl be the best for my application...i know everyone is hung up on coilovers to be the best but I want the best for my application...however, the B+G coilovers DO go down to 3 inch drop...which will be the decision i'll have to make on my own (between the neuspeed springs/koni struts and the B+G coilovers)...wut ya think?

P.S. I'm gonna research on the B+G coilovers because they aren't as expensive as the Tein's and I can slam my car with these...so i might do coilovers after all...but thanx for all the suggestions and opinions guyz!

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Just a word of warning.... In the world of Performanc handling, there is VERY much a thing as too low. Especially with a production car that allready has limited suspension travel.
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yeah that's why i'm gonna research the B+G's because it will give me more play on the drop of my car...still deciding though
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aren't B+G's around $900?
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Originally Posted by 7thgencivic9
aren't B+G's around $900?

So you haven't seen him?
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Originally Posted by Master
So you haven't seen him?
Hey man go to streetlevelperformance.com
they have a special now on B&G full coilovers for hondas...i am considerin gettin them too , special $875 shipped. I basically have the same exact question you do about a drop, except I don't want mine slammed and want a smooth ride
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yeah I checked out that website too. Nice price and I've read a good bit about them. I've pretty much decided on the B+G coilovers for my drop. Also, do the B+G's have fairly stiff springs?
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I never had em man, so I don't know, I am pretty much decided to get B&G coilovers for my drop too. I like the nuespeed sports because it drops the front more than the back and I like the stock look (higher back end) , but to save $ in the long run, from the advice of all our civic bro's on here, full coilovers to begin with for a smooth ride. I just wonder if the B&G coilovers can be set so I have about 1.75 inch drop in front and 1.50 drop in rear?
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did the price go up? on the site it says $949.99
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Not sure if price increased but shipping is still free to anywhere in continental US.
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Yeah the B+G's (correct me if i'm wrong) I think have as much as a 3" drop.
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Originally Posted by StealthCivic
Hey man go to streetlevelperformance.com
they have a special now on B&G full coilovers for hondas...i am considerin gettin them too , special $875 shipped. I basically have the same exact question you do about a drop, except I don't want mine slammed and want a smooth ride

I am talking about missing dog, not coilovers. So ask again have you seen him?
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Originally Posted by Honda2k4
did the price go up? on the site it says $949.99

Yup. I got quoted today for $940 shipped by StreetLevelPerformance

However, I was able to find a $875 shipped via 2-day FedEx.
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Yup. I got quoted today for $940 shipped by StreetLevelPerformance

However, I was able to find a $875 shipped via 2-day FedEx.
That was actually $950 we quoted you. Thanks.
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your dog is dead

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I am talking about missing dog, not coilovers. So ask again have you seen him?
Yea, I found your dog, somebody shot him ...it's dead!
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