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Okay, so first of all I did a nice search to find some info, but I was hoping for more ... rofl.

I'm going to be ordering coils from robear in a couple days and I cant decide if the Tein SS are worth the extra money over (that i really don't much have) the basic. I can't see why I would ajust the dampening ... so any advice would be awesome.

"ONE"

Ben

 
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You would want to adjust the dampening if you are racing. If not, save the cash and get the basics or the hayames. Dampening helps with autox/road racing.

 
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^agreed......if you see your self changing the dampening on them for race then get them if not SAVE

 
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Thats the only difference... damper adjustment or no damper adjustment. you decide if its worth the money.. but ya if you go with basics, i would recommend hayames. a lot cheaper with a lot more features. Spring rates are the same as tein basics and should ride similar

 
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Does anyone have pics of there car on TEIN SS slammed. They say they only go down 1.3 inches. Stock civics r like 4x4's. I'm goin to order my SS next month and need a lot of info on BASIC or SS.

 
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teins don't slam. They only go down about 2-2.5" probably closer to 2". look above in the official dropped pictures thread and search.

 
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yes they dont slam at all.. hayames however.. i'm tucked on stock wheels with atleast 1"-1.5" more to go

 
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hmm thats another hard chioce then ... if you look in my member's rides i have it sitting pretty low on my ground controls ... i would prolly put the tein as low as they go ... now hard choice on Tein or Hayaman

 
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This is my beef with Teins.... you adjust the ride height by compressing the spring. So basically the lower you go, the less travel you get and the shittier the ride. Thats part of the reason I went for JICs... the height is controlled by the lower mounting bracket and the whole shock moves up and down, the spring never moves. I think the Hayames do that too (V'man will know). So I think that feature alone is enough to go with the Hayames over Basics... the only thing that worries me is the unknown track record. If you're not racing, you don't need the damper adjustment. So save yourself some coin.

 
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yeah im not really into racing .. i just want a nice ride. So the hayaman are looking a bit better over the Tein now ...

 
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uh.. i thought you said pretty low
Ya teins dropped all the way should probably look like that

edit: ya hayames adjust the same way.
and eh sometimes even if your not running on the track, the adjustable damper is a nice feature but to me it was worth $500

 
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so the hayaman and the tein ajust the same way?

 
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My opinoin.

I think the Hayame are very good for the price, but dont have the weather coating like the TEIN have. So the Hayame may be prone to rusting and lock-up problems with the dampening wrenches because grit and rust can form in the threads.

This is about the only thing I can see that would make a difference.

Also , TEIN we have in stock to the ceiling, Hayame come and go so fast , they are gone most of the time.

 
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Lol well I just ordered the Hayame from you, talked to you guys on the phone. Very professional! Thanks man, awesome service!

Thanks for everyone who posted!

 
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what kind of rusting and lock up problems?

 
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what? ibtl? huh?

 
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i would imagine with salt on the roads in the northern states

 
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rob said how thay rust n lock up, the coilovers. im asking y n how

 
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salt, water, tar...all can lead to rusting problems. The locking mechanism on the coilovers will rust onto the shaft (you know the part with the screw). That is why KW claims they have the best coilovers because theirs won't rust. Look at KWs site for pictures of rusted coilovers.
www.kwsuspension.com

The rust makes it very difficult to adjust the height of the spring. All springs/shocks are prone to rusting, but because coils move up and down, they can become locked in one position.

don't worry about hondaluver too...

 
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what does the tein have that wont make them rust like rob had said? does only the kw have the non rust stuff? does b&g have it too or no? thanx

 
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For those who have the Hayames how long have yall had them? I'm asking this because I want to know if they have like problems with noise and do anyone of yall have rust or any other type of problem. The only reason I don't want the TEIN SS is cuz they only go down 1.3". That's not to much.

 
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I believe your question was answered earlier in the thread already, but I have the Tein Basics and they definitely go lower than 1.3". How do I know? Because I used to have H&R springs and those went down 1.3", now my ride is alot lower. The Tein SS should go down as low as the Tein Basics.

 
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most coilovers will rust, how you take care of them?

 
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Robb, once again, a very knowledgable and informative post!
Very cool member!

Thats exactly what i was meaning. TEIN has tried to match KW's approach to the rust problem, but I dontt think they compare. Dont get me wrong, all these suspensions we are talking about all have their high points, but also have some downfalls.

 
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try and make sure there isn't much salt on them if they salt in your area. Other than that, you really can't do much. you can try to unlock them every so often to make sure they move. You don't want to put grease on them. Most come with some sort of protective coating, but that chips off. Everytime you turn the locking mechanism, it puts very fine cuts in the protective coating that can let water in. Ultimately, they will rust. Just like your car's paint will rust. You can try your hardest, but nature is a bitch and it will take its toll.

 
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I'm thinking the cheap Tiens don't have a coating on them. I know the Flex and up are Teflon coated, but unless something has changed in the last few months, the SS and Basic aren't coated with anything.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but thats the way it was not too long ago.

 
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Calling TEIN..

 
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Rob- I'm thinking the rust affects only the adjustability of the coilovers right.

I am hoping that the shocks won't lock up into straight solid bars too...

So basically if you find a set height that you're happy with and you know you'll never change that height, then rust shouldn't really be an issue right.

 
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^ awaiting answer...

 
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the shocks will rust slightly but nothing that should impede them from working. The whole coilover will eventually rust, just like springs rust. Take someone with aftermarket springs on their car after 1 -2 years you will see the coating has started to chip and has started to slightly rust the metal underneath. The base mount can rust. so yes, in reality rusting SHOULD only effect the adjustment mechanism. So if you don't want to change the height then don't worry about it. It is inevitable that they will rust, even KWs will rust somewhat, just not as fast as others.