What RSX Type S parts can you bolt on?
What RSX Type S parts can you bolt on? I did a search but didn't come up with what I had hoped for 
I'm not talking about actual shocks or struts, but things that our Civics don't already have, that can be taken from an RSX Type S and bolted on, not replacing anything... Like a rear sway bar, etc... Can someone please tell me what parts the RSX Type S has that our cars don't, and what parts, front and rear, you can bolt on with no modification? Thanks 
I'm not talking about actual shocks or struts, but things that our Civics don't already have, that can be taken from an RSX Type S and bolted on, not replacing anything... Like a rear sway bar, etc... Can someone please tell me what parts the RSX Type S has that our cars don't, and what parts, front and rear, you can bolt on with no modification? Thanks 
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i am sorry, but what are you talking about? the RSX has all the same parts we have, except the DX and 01LX have no rear sway bar. The 19mm rear sway can be taken off and put on our cars. Other than that they didn't come with anything special. The front sway is smaller and may not Fit EXs. what were you expecting??
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i am sorry, but what are you talking about? the RSX has all the same parts we have, except the DX and 01LX have no rear sway bar. The 19mm rear sway can be taken off and put on our cars. Other than that they didn't come with anything special. The front sway is smaller and may not Fit EXs. what were you expecting??
i am sorry, but what are you talking about? the RSX has all the same parts we have, except the DX and 01LX have no rear sway bar. The 19mm rear sway can be taken off and put on our cars. Other than that they didn't come with anything special. The front sway is smaller and may not Fit EXs. what were you expecting??
How much does an RSX rear sway cost? And would I be better off getting an aftermarket one like Neuspeed, or do they even make them? Joined: Aug 2001
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Rep Power: 412 It depends on what you want. Look in the FAQ in my sig for a list of current parts. A stock RSX rear sway with the stock 25.4mm front sway (01-02's) makes the car feel neutral. If you just upgrade the rear to say something like a progress or a neuspeed (20+mm) then the car might oversteer so it is best to get a combo of front and rear, at least in my mind. Also the neuspeed and progress bars come with integrated ties. A new RSX 19mm sway will run you about $80 shipped with brackets from Hondawerx, or you can pick up a used one at club RSX. If you have an 01 LX or DX then you will have to drill holes and get endlinks to make it fit.
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Rep Power: 0 hey robbclark, i posted a topic with updated info on the suspension techniques sway bars, no one really paid attention to that, but i was just trying to get someone to update the Suspension FAQ. so yea, update it with the info i posted if you get a chance, thx!!
Ok cool, thanks Rob. I've been thinking of getting a Neuspeed front strut tower bar, but what other components would you recommend? I don't want to upset the balance of the car, just allow it to corner with less body roll. Should I just get the front bar, or other things?
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Rep Power: 380 Strut tower bars have no influence on how much the body rolls in a corner. Thats the job of the springs and Anti-roll bars.
Dont confuse Body roll with a poorly handling car, You can have a car Handle well and still have a bit of body roll, if that car is balanced well.
What you should be more concerned about is whats called Roll couple Distribution. which is .....the balance of roll resistans between the front and rear of the car.
The total roll resistance at the front of the vehicle, compared to the Rear, tells us the roll couple distribution. This determines the handling balance of the vehicle. If we have too much rear roll resistance the car will oversteer. If we have too much front roll resistance, the car will understeer.
Currently Our cars In stock form are tuned to understeer, so and easy way to improve handling is to increace the rear roll resistance. By either increacing the rear spring rates or by increacing the strength of the rear Anti-roll bar. a cheep way to do that is to get a Rear Anti-roll bar off of an RSX. (increaces from a stock 15mm to a 19mm which is a 257% increace in strength). This small and simple change will help the car to understeer less and probably make the car Feel and Handle 100% better then stock. The cars body will still roll over, but the car will be handling much better any way.
Dont confuse Body roll with a poorly handling car, You can have a car Handle well and still have a bit of body roll, if that car is balanced well.
What you should be more concerned about is whats called Roll couple Distribution. which is .....the balance of roll resistans between the front and rear of the car.
The total roll resistance at the front of the vehicle, compared to the Rear, tells us the roll couple distribution. This determines the handling balance of the vehicle. If we have too much rear roll resistance the car will oversteer. If we have too much front roll resistance, the car will understeer.
Currently Our cars In stock form are tuned to understeer, so and easy way to improve handling is to increace the rear roll resistance. By either increacing the rear spring rates or by increacing the strength of the rear Anti-roll bar. a cheep way to do that is to get a Rear Anti-roll bar off of an RSX. (increaces from a stock 15mm to a 19mm which is a 257% increace in strength). This small and simple change will help the car to understeer less and probably make the car Feel and Handle 100% better then stock. The cars body will still roll over, but the car will be handling much better any way.
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Strut tower bars have no influence on how much the body rolls in a corner. Thats the job of the springs and Anti-roll bars.
Dont confuse Body roll with a poorly handling car, You can have a car Handle well and still have a bit of body roll, if that car is balanced well.
What you should be more concerned about is whats called Roll couple Distribution. which is .....the balance of roll resistans between the front and rear of the car.
The total roll resistance at the front of the vehicle, compared to the Rear, tells us the roll couple distribution. This determines the handling balance of the vehicle. If we have too much rear roll resistance the car will oversteer. If we have too much front roll resistance, the car will understeer.
Currently Our cars In stock form are tuned to understeer, so and easy way to improve handling is to increace the rear roll resistance. By either increacing the rear spring rates or by increacing the strength of the rear Anti-roll bar. a cheep way to do that is to get a Rear Anti-roll bar off of an RSX. (increaces from a stock 15mm to a 19mm which is a 257% increace in strength). This small and simple change will help the car to understeer less and probably make the car Feel and Handle 100% better then stock. The cars body will still roll over, but the car will be handling much better any way.
Strut tower bars have no influence on how much the body rolls in a corner. Thats the job of the springs and Anti-roll bars.
Dont confuse Body roll with a poorly handling car, You can have a car Handle well and still have a bit of body roll, if that car is balanced well.
What you should be more concerned about is whats called Roll couple Distribution. which is .....the balance of roll resistans between the front and rear of the car.
The total roll resistance at the front of the vehicle, compared to the Rear, tells us the roll couple distribution. This determines the handling balance of the vehicle. If we have too much rear roll resistance the car will oversteer. If we have too much front roll resistance, the car will understeer.
Currently Our cars In stock form are tuned to understeer, so and easy way to improve handling is to increace the rear roll resistance. By either increacing the rear spring rates or by increacing the strength of the rear Anti-roll bar. a cheep way to do that is to get a Rear Anti-roll bar off of an RSX. (increaces from a stock 15mm to a 19mm which is a 257% increace in strength). This small and simple change will help the car to understeer less and probably make the car Feel and Handle 100% better then stock. The cars body will still roll over, but the car will be handling much better any way.
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Thanks Zzyzx, I'll no doubt have more questions for you! 
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I second that! Thank you very much! So if I just want it to handle a little more neutrally, an RSX rear sway bar is all I need? I don't need a Neuspeed front lower X-Brace, lower rear tie bar etc... just the RSX rear sway bar? That's good, less money I have to spend! Thanks Zzyzx, I'll no doubt have more questions for you!
I second that! Thank you very much! So if I just want it to handle a little more neutrally, an RSX rear sway bar is all I need? I don't need a Neuspeed front lower X-Brace, lower rear tie bar etc... just the RSX rear sway bar? That's good, less money I have to spend!
Thanks Zzyzx, I'll no doubt have more questions for you! You dont need any Structural reinforcement, but I recomend getting every one that you can afford. The reason being is that the chassis was designed to flex a bit, to Make the cars ride smoother, just like how they use Rubber bushings for every thing.... From a performanc handling perspective that is very bad, as chassis flex makes a cars suspension Very difficult If not impossible to tune. If you dont plan on doing any really hard driving, then you could get away with not having any chassis reinforcements, but if your going to do any sort of motorsports then I Highly Recomend bracing the cars chassis in what ever way you can afford.
Just becarefull and get use to how the car handles after you get the Rear anti-roll bar. The car will understeer much less, and you'll need to concentrate on driving properly more, because the car will be less forgiving if you make a mistake. I.e. Right now if you mess up a corner (Either entering to quickly or turning the wheel to fast) the only thing your going to experiance is understeer (Wheels are turned, car still goes straight). with that, you'll probably step on the breaks, slow down a little, and then the front end will bite in and the car will turn. Safe and predictable. with the larger rear anti-roll bar, the rear end of the car may want to come around on you in a similar situation. Now a little oversteer isnt realy a bad thing, as long as you dont do something stupid to make it worse... Like Hit the breaks or lift off the throttle. so you see, the more you tune the suspension to be nutural the more you need to drive the car right. Because the car is going to be a bit less forgiveing to your mistakes in the corners. this is why cars are tuned to Understeer rather then be nutural from the factory. Understeer is much more Forgiving and Controlable then oversteer, because most people gut reactions to oversteer is precicely the wrong thing to do (Hit the breaks or lift off the throttle).
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Rep Power: 0 What about the progress rear sway bar, does anyone know if that'll make us oversteer?
If so, should we do the progress front and rear sway bar?
Lastly, does anyone know if the neuspeed rear sway bar, will work on a vic without a rear sway bar? I ask this cause the neuspeed one comes with a subframe. and for the progress one, you have to buy the "mounting kit" which is just like the subframe... any responses from people who have this on their cars would be appriciated. I've seen the "link" to the suspension stuff, that doesn't really help me.
If so, should we do the progress front and rear sway bar?
Lastly, does anyone know if the neuspeed rear sway bar, will work on a vic without a rear sway bar? I ask this cause the neuspeed one comes with a subframe. and for the progress one, you have to buy the "mounting kit" which is just like the subframe... any responses from people who have this on their cars would be appriciated. I've seen the "link" to the suspension stuff, that doesn't really help me.
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Rep Power: 380 I raced with a guy that had H&R sport springs with the Progress Rear anti-roll bar. According to him, you could steer the car with the throttle, so Yes it will induce a bit of oversteer. However this is at the extreams of handling performance (Autocross) So with regular street use, you probably will not run in to that. But like my edit above, you'll need to take corners properly to get the most benifit out of the bar.
As far as the Front/Rear combo... I've heard that most companys tune the front/rear combos a bit mildly. which is great for Street use, because even though the car will handle MUCH better then stock, At the limits of traction the car will still want to understeer (Safe and Predictable) For a motorsports application this is less then desirable.
As far as the Front/Rear combo... I've heard that most companys tune the front/rear combos a bit mildly. which is great for Street use, because even though the car will handle MUCH better then stock, At the limits of traction the car will still want to understeer (Safe and Predictable) For a motorsports application this is less then desirable.
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Rep Power: 380 well the stock Civic bar is 15mm and the RSX one is 19MM. Cant really say that ours is not as good as the RSX one, they were just tuned for different cars (The RSX is heavier and thus needs higher spring rates to have the same handling). Luckily for us, the RSX bar is an Upgrade that fits and is cheep/readily availible. For some one who wants better handling and minimal ride quality changes, I highly Recomend it.
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Rep Power: 380 ABS.. No waranty, only the waranty on the Rear anti-rollbar and the endlinks. assuming ofcourse that the dealership even notices the bar, as it looks exactly like the stock one, only thicker.
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Rep Power: 0 tie bar and rear strut should be a direct bolt-on also if you buy aftermarket parts..other then that from a stock Type S is the Rear sway bar. One of the best mods i ever invested in.
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Rep Power: 412 YOu mean the rear sway and tie bar. Also, it is not a direct bolt on if you have a DX or 01 LX. The stock rear bar is 12mm. You have an 01 LX, then you will need to drill holes and add enlinks. so for you with no rear stock sway bar, it is a direct bolt on but you have to do some work.
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