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Old Aug 28, 2003
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Hotchkis anti-sway bars.

Anyone using them? I know the rear is 25mm, but what's the front? Like 27? Is there a way you can buy these seperately? I hate the fact they come in red. Think I'll powder coat them a different color if I get them.

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hey were did u find them? how much?
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www.clubrsx.com.

Not necessarily cheap either. (Think I'll wait for the price to fall. I don't really need thicker bars more than I do stiffer springs.) There is a DIY on how to install it and their endlinks.
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Are they adjustible?
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so those will fit our civic's ??
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Originally posted by Zzyzx
Are they adjustible?
On clubrsx.com it mentions adjustablility but I don't see how. They look like normal bars to me.

And yeah, they'll fit our cars. (I can safely say that for the rear.) It uses the same anti sway bar design. The front resembles the EX bar. I believe DC5@EM2 owns these front and back? So yeah I can say they do work front and back.
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Originally posted by civicvtec1ps
http://www.7thgencivic.com/modules.p...Suspension+FAQ

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I see... 25mm in the front. I went there earlier just to make sure I spelled Hotchkis correctly.

Aren't stock front bars 25mm?
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25.4mm to be exact for the stock front. I guess they thought it would be matched if they were the same size. I personally don't think (going by predictions) that this would be the best set up. the 25mm bar might be too big for the front causing more oversteer. They are nonadjustable from what I know. There is also a "race" set of bars in progress by hotchkis.
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Originally posted by robbclark1
the 25mm bar might be too big for the front causing more oversteer.
I thought it was the other way around?

Bigger in the rear causes more oversteer
Bigger in the front causes more understeer

*waits Zzyzx's wisdom*
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Yup..... Higher roll resistance in the front= Understeer
Higher roll resistance in the rear = Oversteer

Figuring out how much roll resistane front and rear to make a well balanced car = Miracle
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Originally posted by SlammedBlueEM2
I thought it was the other way around?

Bigger in the rear causes more oversteer
Bigger in the front causes more understeer

*waits Zzyzx's wisdom*
Yeah I meant to say 25mm in the rear. My bad!! I botched it bad!! I am a bad mod, ZzyzX, you can give me a sock beating!!!
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So far I'll have to say I like the front stock bar but I truly won't know till I'm on spring rates I actually like.

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how much are they?
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WOW... 25 in the rear sounds like a hell of a lot. I've seen people pick up the inside rear with a 22 in the new Si. I don't know if I'd go for that stiff with out some really hard springs to keep stuff on the ground.
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Picking up the rear tire on a FWD car is not that big of a deal, It mostly means that they need to stiffen up the front a bit.

Idealy, you want the inside rear tire to just bairly leave the surface when you are at the limits of traction.
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They are adjustable by their end link I would imagine. I woupd rather go with Progress or Comptech and get the built in tie bar myself.
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adjusting the end link does not adjust the strength of the bar.....




Heres an example of an adjustible bar Vs an non adjustible bar


See the difference?
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Old thread i know, but arent these bars alot lighter also?
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Not nessisairly. Most are heavier.
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