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wheels look nice, but the "A" cap kills it. if you're happy with it, that's what matters, but i don't think it's worth the cost. props for trying something different though. others will learn from this.
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looks sexy. I personally would've did the same thing if I didn't have my swap =). I got my type s 5 lug set up waiting to go in. good job on showing people that said you couldn't do it.
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$200 is still too much for what you got, IMO. i doubt that included the required 5 lug wheels either. at any rate, $200 still isn't worth it for me. i think that $200 would be better spent towards some better rotors like brembos and some Hawk pads or something. i think you can get good enough looking 4 lug wheels that 5 lugs "just for looks" is a waste. it would be different if you had gone with all type-S stuff for better performance. unless you're racing though and drastically need better braking, this is all a waste IMO. i'm looking at upgrading my brakes, but it's for autocross and running road courses. for everyday driving, upgraded brakes aren't needed.
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$200 is still too much for what you got, IMO. i doubt that included the required 5 lug wheels either. at any rate, $200 still isn't worth it for me. i think that $200 would be better spent towards some better rotors like brembos and some Hawk pads or something. i think you can get good enough looking 4 lug wheels that 5 lugs "just for looks" is a waste. it would be different if you had gone with all type-S stuff for better performance. unless you're racing though and drastically need better braking, this is all a waste IMO. i'm looking at upgrading my brakes, but it's for autocross and running road courses. for everyday driving, upgraded brakes aren't needed.
what are u talkin about, people spend 400 on the type-s swap and the rims go for 250 alone so what are u talkin about thats 650 already, if am going to run or use it as a daily driven its going to benefit me ethier way, 200 is what i spent on my 5 lug with, pads and rotors, unless u work at the power plant and steal the parts or get it dirt cheap then i can see ur point, and did i ever say i was going to turn my car into a drag???... no, so before u go openin ur mouth about ur pointless opinion think it over, oo and by the way..
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$200 is still too much for what you got, IMO. i doubt that included the required 5 lug wheels either. at any rate, $200 still isn't worth it for me. i think that $200 would be better spent towards some better rotors like brembos and some Hawk pads or something. i think you can get good enough looking 4 lug wheels that 5 lugs "just for looks" is a waste. it would be different if you had gone with all type-S stuff for better performance. unless you're racing though and drastically need better braking, this is all a waste IMO. i'm looking at upgrading my brakes, but it's for autocross and running road courses. for everyday driving, upgraded brakes aren't needed.
200 is not woth it, what do u drive by the way a KIA????
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^ just a shot in the dark...but im guessing since this is a forum for ONLY civics...im gonna say he drives a civic. 
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speel chak........lol...........hey electric he didnt ask if u thought it was worth it. you couldve spent ur time writing all that somewhere else.. just leave him alone already. people have already flamed this kid for bringing up the idea and he still did it. i think he did a good job regardless if anybody else lieks it or what he paid. he took ona challenge n did it, if u think its not worth it...then dont do it?? i wouldnt do it but im not telling him he wasted his money..poor guy.
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what are u talkin about, people spend 400 on the type-s swap and the rims go for 250 alone so what are u talkin about thats 650 already, if am going to run or use it as a daily driven its going to benefit me ethier way, 200 is what i spent on my 5 lug with, pads and rotors, unless u work at the power plant and steal the parts or get it dirt cheap then i can see ur point, and did i ever say i was going to turn my car into a drag???... no, so before u go openin ur mouth about ur pointless opinion think it over, oo and by the way..
no increase in performance there. you could have gotten a set of Brembo Blanks, and Hawk pads for less than $200 shipped and it would have been a lot better performance than what you wound up with. and i never said anything drag racing. you don't really need anything besides stock for drag. if you go back and read my post i was talking about autocross and road racing. even autocross will be alright with stock equip for the most part. now road racing is a different story. but look dude, i said in my first post
if you're happy with it, that's what matters.........props for trying something different though. others will learn from this.
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speel chak........lol...........hey electric he didnt ask if u thought it was worth it. you couldve spent ur time writing all that somewhere else.. just leave him alone already. people have already flamed this kid for bringing up the idea and he still did it. i think he did a good job regardless if anybody else lieks it or what he paid. he took ona challenge n did it, if u think its not worth it...then dont do it?? i wouldnt do it but im not telling him he wasted his money..poor guy.
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$400 for a type s swap would be worth it for the added performance. that's the point you seemed to miss in my last post. you spent $200 and still used some of your stock parts. no increase in performance there. you could have gotten a set of Brembo Blanks, and Hawk pads for less than $200 shipped and it would have been a lot better performance than what you wound up with. and i never said anything drag racing. you don't really need anything besides stock for drag. if you go back and read my post i was talking about autocross and road racing. even autocross will be alright with stock equip for the most part. now road racing is a different story.
but look dude, i said in my first post
it's your car, you said it was what you wanted to do, so you shouldn't care what other people think. it's obvious that you do though. this is a public forum. the only thing that will keep people from posting their opinion is if you don't start the thread in the first place. if you post a thread, people are going to share their mind whether you like it or not.
no increase in performance there. you could have gotten a set of Brembo Blanks, and Hawk pads for less than $200 shipped and it would have been a lot better performance than what you wound up with. and i never said anything drag racing. you don't really need anything besides stock for drag. if you go back and read my post i was talking about autocross and road racing. even autocross will be alright with stock equip for the most part. now road racing is a different story. but look dude, i said in my first post
it's your car, you said it was what you wanted to do, so you shouldn't care what other people think. it's obvious that you do though. this is a public forum. the only thing that will keep people from posting their opinion is if you don't start the thread in the first place. if you post a thread, people are going to share their mind whether you like it or not.
how didnt i not upgrade performance i went from drum to disk, and i feel a diff, so how are u going to tell me if it didnt make a diff. or not, did u drive my car,
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NEG REP FOR EVERYONE!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!!
Seriously though, your ABS light is probably coming on because the sensor is in a different location on the 5-lug spindles than on your stock 4-lugs. You do run the risk of having your ABS fail you when you need it as it relies on precise measurements to know when to actuate the brakes independent of each other when you lose traction in a skid or hydroplane or something.
Personally I would disable the ABS completely at this point and just rely on your feet and (potential) mad brakin' skillz rather than taking the chance of your ABS getting you into serious trouble. Your setup is now completely different than what the computer is expecting and it won't react the way it should.
If you want to know exactly what I'm talking about, go to this thread and read texascivic2k1's post:
This thread
and follow this link from texascivic2k1's post (repost of Zzyzx's):
ABS braking explained
In the original thread boiler (Here) makes some of his usual caustic, yet informative, observations about brakes. Since you two already got into a pissing match I don't think you'll read them, but you should at least to get an idea of what you're messing with. He's a prickly SOB, but probably one of the most experienced 7th gen owners on the site.
I give you props for doing the swap, but I'd hate to see you wrapped around a telephone pole because your ABS malfunctioned (almost guaranteed to now) and threw you into a spin.
Seriously though, your ABS light is probably coming on because the sensor is in a different location on the 5-lug spindles than on your stock 4-lugs. You do run the risk of having your ABS fail you when you need it as it relies on precise measurements to know when to actuate the brakes independent of each other when you lose traction in a skid or hydroplane or something.
Personally I would disable the ABS completely at this point and just rely on your feet and (potential) mad brakin' skillz rather than taking the chance of your ABS getting you into serious trouble. Your setup is now completely different than what the computer is expecting and it won't react the way it should.
If you want to know exactly what I'm talking about, go to this thread and read texascivic2k1's post:
This thread
and follow this link from texascivic2k1's post (repost of Zzyzx's):
ABS braking explained
In the original thread boiler (Here) makes some of his usual caustic, yet informative, observations about brakes. Since you two already got into a pissing match I don't think you'll read them, but you should at least to get an idea of what you're messing with. He's a prickly SOB, but probably one of the most experienced 7th gen owners on the site.
I give you props for doing the swap, but I'd hate to see you wrapped around a telephone pole because your ABS malfunctioned (almost guaranteed to now) and threw you into a spin.
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NEG REP FOR EVERYONE!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!!
Seriously though, your ABS light is probably coming on because the sensor is in a different location on the 5-lug spindles than on your stock 4-lugs. You do run the risk of having your ABS fail you when you need it as it relies on precise measurements to know when to actuate the brakes independent of each other when you lose traction in a skid or hydroplane or something.
Personally I would disable the ABS completely at this point and just rely on your feet and (potential) mad brakin' skillz rather than taking the chance of your ABS getting you into serious trouble. Your setup is now completely different than what the computer is expecting and it won't react the way it should.
If you want to know exactly what I'm talking about, go to this thread and read texascivic2k1's post:
This thread
and follow this link from texascivic2k1's post (repost of Zzyzx's):
ABS braking explained
In the original thread boiler (Here) makes some of his usual caustic, yet informative, observations about brakes. Since you two already got into a pissing match I don't think you'll read them, but you should at least to get an idea of what you're messing with. He's a prickly SOB, but probably one of the most experienced 7th gen owners on the site.
I give you props for doing the swap, but I'd hate to see you wrapped around a telephone pole because your ABS malfunctioned (almost guaranteed to now) and threw you into a spin.
Seriously though, your ABS light is probably coming on because the sensor is in a different location on the 5-lug spindles than on your stock 4-lugs. You do run the risk of having your ABS fail you when you need it as it relies on precise measurements to know when to actuate the brakes independent of each other when you lose traction in a skid or hydroplane or something.
Personally I would disable the ABS completely at this point and just rely on your feet and (potential) mad brakin' skillz rather than taking the chance of your ABS getting you into serious trouble. Your setup is now completely different than what the computer is expecting and it won't react the way it should.
If you want to know exactly what I'm talking about, go to this thread and read texascivic2k1's post:
This thread
and follow this link from texascivic2k1's post (repost of Zzyzx's):
ABS braking explained
In the original thread boiler (Here) makes some of his usual caustic, yet informative, observations about brakes. Since you two already got into a pissing match I don't think you'll read them, but you should at least to get an idea of what you're messing with. He's a prickly SOB, but probably one of the most experienced 7th gen owners on the site.
I give you props for doing the swap, but I'd hate to see you wrapped around a telephone pole because your ABS malfunctioned (almost guaranteed to now) and threw you into a spin.
thanks a lot for the info, i was talkin to some people and they where tellin me that i should disable it cuase its only gonna **** it up more, just how it stated in the abs article, so i might just do that, but how would u disable the abs???
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Just pull the ABS fuse. Your ABS light will probably come on , but if it bothers you that much, pull the cluster and put a touch of electrical tape over the LED. Presto, no more ABS light and it doesn't look like you did anything to it.
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there will be people who will say that it is not worth the price and there is no gain in performance...
seriously most people who drive civic...and in this forum do not read and understand the whole thing...they will always be like that...when someone says something and if it is not correct...they do not accept it when others try to correct them...it happened to me alot of times...
seriously most people who drive civic...and in this forum do not read and understand the whole thing...they will always be like that...when someone says something and if it is not correct...they do not accept it when others try to correct them...it happened to me alot of times...
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there will be people who will say that it is not worth the price and there is no gain in performance...
seriously most people who drive civic...and in this forum do not read and understand the whole thing...they will always be like that...when someone says something and if it is not correct...they do not accept it when others try to correct them...it happened to me alot of times...
seriously most people who drive civic...and in this forum do not read and understand the whole thing...they will always be like that...when someone says something and if it is not correct...they do not accept it when others try to correct them...it happened to me alot of times...
so true
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hey guys i had this site that showed you how to make your own axles a rsx-s and a gsr outter axles???? i had the site but lost it does anyone know the site??
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^^ it kinda sounds right, but i dont think it would work with out stock tranny's, unless you can get the intermediate shaft to work.
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