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Hey I recently came across a set of ADR sudoku8 rims 17" and since I needed new tires anyways this would be a good idea. Now I need to know what size tires to run and im a little confused cause I dont know what tire size im supposted to run..

ppl have told me for my 2001 Civic DX Sedan I should run eihter

205/40/17
215/40/17

Current Winter Tires: 185/70 R14

currently I have a set of XiCE on my tires right now for the winter so I dunno .. anyone help me shed some light? thx.

was thinking of picking up a set of FUZION HRi or FALKEN 512's anyone have any experience with these??

ADR Rim Specs:
size: 17x7
p.c.d: 8 x 100/114.3
offset: 40
hub: 73.1


thanks guys
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Re: tire question

the difference between these two

205/40/17
215/40/17

is just how wide the tire is, i use 215's on my car, there is no fitment problem or any rubbing, the wide tire provides more traction for the car when taking turns and etc...id recommend getting the 215 unless you are going to experience rubbing issues if you have a extreme drop
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Re: tire question

get the falkens 205/45/17 you will have a softer ride than a 40 series tire and your odo and speedo will be correct
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Re: tire question

heh my odo speedo is already screwed lol changed clusters anyways.. my original stock tire size is: 185/70 R14.. so I think i might go with the 205/40..
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Re: tire question

dont crack a rim.. I did w/ that tire size
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Re: tire question

sry for asking a newb question but how come 205/40 would crack a rim easily?
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Re: tire question

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sry for asking a newb question but how come 205/40 would crack a rim easily?
Very unlikely indeed, but possible.


I run Toyo proxes 4 215/40/ZR17

The ride is just fine the grip and handeling are super!

But they will look a little small in the wheal well until you lower the ride.
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Re: tire question

Originally Posted by akz
sry for asking a newb question but how come 205/40 would crack a rim easily?
The sidewall is shorter on a 40 size tire, as opposed to a 45 size tire.
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Re: tire question

theres less cushion between road and rims b/c of the smaller sidewall
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Re: tire question

I also cracked a rim running 40 series. They look good, but there's not much cushion if you hit a hole, or a curb.
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Re: tire question

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I also cracked a rim running 40 series. They look good, but there's not much cushion if you hit a hole, or a curb.
Christ if you hit a curb a cracked rim will be the least of your worries.

I know I've hit the curb hard about three times in the last 14 years I have been driving.
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Re: tire question

LOL... can't argue with that, MURDOCK.
Mine cracked from a big pot hole though, not a curb.
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Re: tire question

Honestly though I can't comment on the ride qulity of 40 series on a tuned suspension

When I do finaly drop my car I might Find that I will need to go with a 45 series

I'm also considering switching to 15's I will need to talk to some of the Auto-cross guys about that I believe the are the rim size of choice for that style of driving
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Re: tire question

I switched from 17's to 15's a few weeks ago.
Went from a 205/40/17 to 195/60/15 and the ride differerence is AMAZING.
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Re: tire question

^sell me ur 17's
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Re: tire question

Already sold them. I actually sold 2 sets of 17's.
Had a set of black Riax Seca and a set of Silver Konigs.
Went with a set of 15" Enkei PKR's
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Re: tire question

Originally Posted by 85gp4
I switched from 17's to 15's a few weeks ago.
Went from a 205/40/17 to 195/60/15 and the ride differerence is AMAZING.
Curios in what way?

Ride comfort is a given.

What about, traction, handling, response, Lateral G-force.

Have these factors all improved since switching to the 15's?

Also could you post some pics?
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Re: tire question

Ride comfort. My car's engine is 99.9% stock (the .1% is for the short ram intake) so traction, lateral g-force, etc don't really get tested on my car. But the ride of the car is so much smoother that I will never go back to a 17" tire. My car is not dropped and I don't have any pictures with the new rims, but here is a picture of a silver Civic from the discount tire site, with Enkei PKR's. Looks basically like my car...
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Re: tire question

hrmm.. so after all this...

205/40 - rougher ride

205/45 - smoother ride...

but with consideration I have TEIN Stechs and Tokico Blue Struts on my car .. I think im going to opt out for the lower profile and go with the 205/40 .. is the 40/45 THAT much of a difference?
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Re: tire question

I ran a set of 215/45/17 and then a set of 205/40/17 and there was a pretty noticable difference in sidewall and in ride. The 215/45 rode better.
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Re: tire question

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hrmm.. so after all this...

205/40 - rougher ride

205/45 - smoother ride...

but with consideration I have TEIN Stechs and Tokico Blue Struts on my car .. I think im going to opt out for the lower profile and go with the 205/40 .. is the 40/45 THAT much of a difference?
It is not just a question of 40 or 45 but also consider Brand.

A cheep no name tire will not be built with the same materials and structure as the top of the line tires like Bridgstone or Michillen.

The 40 series will look a hell of a lot nicer than 45's the ride is something all us tuners have to live with.

Go with the 40 series
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Re: tire question

Originally Posted by akz
Hey I recently came across a set of ADR sudoku8 rims 17" and since I needed new tires anyways this would be a good idea. Now I need to know what size tires to run and im a little confused cause I dont know what tire size im supposted to run..

ppl have told me for my 2001 Civic DX Sedan I should run eihter

205/40/17
215/40/17

Current Winter Tires: 185/70 R14

currently I have a set of XiCE on my tires right now for the winter so I dunno .. anyone help me shed some light? thx.

was thinking of picking up a set of FUZION HRi or FALKEN 512's anyone have any experience with these??

ADR Rim Specs:
size: 17x7
p.c.d: 8 x 100/114.3
offset: 40
hub: 73.1


thanks guys
BTW the Falkens are a great tire I used them on my Nissan 200SX
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Re: tire question

The difference in size between a 205/40/17 and a 205/45/17 is shown below.

205/40/17
Width: 17in or 431.8mm
Diameter: 23.45in or 595.63mm
Sidwalll Height: 3.22in or 81.788mm
Revs per mile: 886.9


205/45/17
Width: 17in or 431.8mm
Diameter: 24.26in or 616.20mm
Sidwalll Height: 3.63in or 92.202mm
Revs per mile: 857.3


http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCal...?action=submit
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Re: tire question

Originally Posted by 85gp4
Already sold them. I actually sold 2 sets of 17's.
Had a set of black Riax Seca and a set of Silver Konigs.
Went with a set of 15" Enkei PKR's
thx anyways.. I think I just need to bite the bullet and buy new ones...
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Re: tire question

Originally Posted by MURDOCK
It is not just a question of 40 or 45 but also consider Brand.

A cheep no name tire will not be built with the same materials and structure as the top of the line tires like Bridgstone or Michillen.

The 40 series will look a hell of a lot nicer than 45's the ride is something all us tuners have to live with.

Go with the 40 series
Well.. my choices are so far:
-Falken 512 (they come in both 205/45/17 & 205/40/17) 40@$91/tire 45@$123
-Fuzion HRi (they only come in 205/40/17) @ $90/tire

so I guess now it just comes down to Falken or Fuzion.. and from what Ive read on the forums the Fuzion seems to be the best choice.. esp since they are made from 2 big companies
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Here's where I got my Falkens w/ a 205.45.17 .... http://www.edgeracing.com/tires/2054517/ 75 apeice!!
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Almost as good of a deal as this one in Dallas.
Brand new 205/40ZR17 NEXEN N3000 Tires - $38
BTW Nexen is made by Michelin.
http://dallas.craigslist.org/pts/299594972.html
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ohh I forgot my prices are canadian cause im in Canada.
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Re: tire question

Nexen's are crap, and so are michelin's. Michelins are ok for regular driving, but not for summer tires. I'd go with the 512's over the fuzions. However the 512's might not last as long, but I think that's the sacrifice you have to make.

Don't cheap out with tires. You don't have to buy the most expensive ones, but don't go for the bargain barrel brands. Tires are one of the most important things on your car, if not the most important. They help out with acceleration, braking, and handling. Yes it can improve all of these depending on the tires you select.

Hey akz, go to tires23. I got my rims and tires there, those guys are good.

Hey don't post on TCC, those guys don't have that much knowledge on 7thgen civics. They know their 4th, 5th, and 6th gen civics, don't bother asking specific 7thgen questions there. They are ok with generic questions about about civics though.
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I have 215/35/18
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