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Old Dec 30, 2006
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I got kumho's and i hate them.!! They dont grip for shiz. Id go wit falkins or bridgestone potenza's!!
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Originally Posted by Blk4blk2K1
I'm the one who mentioned Toyo tires are crap for tread life. For one I had FZ4s on my Civic, yeah they grip for oh...6 months then no tread left. I also had a set of Toyo's on my newly acquired Ridgeline (brother's choice in tire) and same thing..CRAP!

I replaced the Crap with Falken and felt they were not even comparable. Falken's are a better buy - bottom line..
FZ4 sucked in both aspects of grip and tread life. FZ4 was replaced with the proxes 4's. The proxes 4's do a better job in both aspects. I'm not sure what comes on the ridgeline, but I'm pretty sure Honda didn't put good tires on there. The only Honda that comes with good tires stock, is the s2000. Every other Honda comes with crappy tires, no matter what brand they use.

However, if you feel Falkens are better, then stick with it. I'm not saying Toyo is better or worse than Falken. My point was to say that its tire model specific, and not tire brand specific.
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Old Dec 31, 2006
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Originally Posted by phuviano
FZ4 sucked in both aspects of grip and tread life. FZ4 was replaced with the proxes 4's. The proxes 4's do a better job in both aspects. I'm not sure what comes on the ridgeline, but I'm pretty sure Honda didn't put good tires on there. The only Honda that comes with good tires stock, is the s2000. Every other Honda comes with crappy tires, no matter what brand they use.

However, if you feel Falkens are better, then stick with it. I'm not saying Toyo is better or worse than Falken. My point was to say that its tire model specific, and not tire brand specific.
Let me make myself clear: Proxes on the Vic, FX4's on the Ridge.. they were not factory tires (Honda doesn't use Toyo from the factory). They were acquired with the purchase of a '06 Ridgeline from my bro who had aftermarket wheels/tires. The Toyo models listed prior are Crap. - It also depends on how you drive as well.
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now iam confused.. so which one should i get then?? you guys said kuhmo sucks.. but what size where you in on that one?
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Rule of thumb: If you're not after high speed or high grip records, then any major brand tire within your price range will work work fine.

If you're after grip then choose tires with lower trear wear rating, higher trear wear rating will give you longer tire life with a bit less grip.
Something 300 or more should last 20k mi without burnouts and without superfast countinuos takeoffs.

Since I see that everything's been answered it is upto you to make decision and let us know what it was.

That is all.

Good luck.
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Old Jan 3, 2007
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go with the yokohama, i love mine
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thanks for the tip guys. i will definitely post everything even my car and rims lol. after 600 post, i will post my first pics ever lol
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i suggest the yokos but ive had them b4 they are great for handleing great in the rain and perfect autocross tires
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basically yoko vs falken.. yikes!
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falken all the way. they are the best tire on the market imo. but i also work at a tire store and we have a special deal with falken so we try to seelt he shiznit out of em. but seriously, falkens with rotation every 5000 miles will last 30-40000 miles and there really not that expensive of a tire for the quality.
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thanks for the nifo ^^^^ if only they have the reviews on tiretrack. (for falkens)
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Go with the Falken Zeix Ze 512, they are great in wet weather and gives a smooth drive.
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Old Jan 30, 2007
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all 215/45/17: my Falken 512s were shot by 15k, had Kumho 712s before them that went over 35k, now on yoko h4s from discount tire with warranty to 60k (like to see if they will make it)
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i had falken and i love them
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Kumho Asx would handle overall better than the es100's plus they have a longer tread life i always hear complaints at my work about es100's in the rain.
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Originally Posted by Blk4blk2K1
Toyo's on my newly acquired Ridgeline (brother's choice in tire) and same thing..CRAP! I replaced the Crap with Falken and felt they were not even comparable. Falken's are a better buy - bottom line..

man im sad now i just bought some toyo's for my rota's and they ride like crap
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Old Mar 17, 2007
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shoulda gotten falkens...i trust falkens...i only run azenis of course but i've so far sold about 15-20 sets of falken ziex ZE-512 and Falken FK-452's and azenis rt-615...they ride great, the ziex have good tire wear and last very very long and i get them for cheap...locally to los angeles of course sorry for u outa towners
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I had falken ziex before, wasnt too happy with them. Wore out extremely fast.
The performance was almost the same as my stock bridgestone potenzas.
My next set is going to be kumho 711s, hopefully those last longer than the falkens.
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Originally Posted by civic_04
I had falken ziex before, wasnt too happy with them. Wore out extremely fast.
The performance was almost the same as my stock bridgestone potenzas.
My next set is going to be kumho 711s, hopefully those last longer than the falkens.

the 711's perform ok and thread is ok, but be prepared for a lot of road noise after the thread starts to thin out a bit.
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thanks for the info guys. i hope i get my rims very soon since its been almost 4 months when this tread started lol
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ey man i can hook u up with tires if u wanna get falkens
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I'm not sure how the 712 wears, but I ran a few sets of 711 and I would never buy them again. My car has not been lowered, and is in alignment and both sets of 711 cupped badly. If I had to buy a set of Kumho's I might get the ASX series.
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