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Old May 17, 2004
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Shaking in Steering

Ok here's is what happend. I had rims and tires put on the vic and now the steering shakes pretty bad, but it is just the steering wheel and only over 65 mph. Now the first time this happend it was after they put them on and I was never told by them that they needed hub rings, so I purchased those and they installed them. Still did it, so I took it to a different tire discounters and had them look at them. They said they were not balanced and that they did that. Two hours later when I got on the highway it was doing it again, maybe even worse. So my question it what the F*ck is going on with this. It is getting very old. Also I was hearing a noise coming from the front drivers side tire after they installed the hub rings. They said that the noise was the spring not being seated. I personally think they they are full on Sh*t. The springs were on there for a month and I never heard anything until after they had touched my car. Any ideas? Any help is greatly appreciated.
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i had the same wheel problem when i got different steelies and tires. i asked the guy at the shop to put the tires on my stock steelies and the shaking stopped. so it just might be the rims themselves giving the problems.
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They are brand new though, does it not matter?
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The guys at tire discounters said that they were unbalanced, but it just made it worst after they said that the balanced them.
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i got brand new rims and tires sat. and they did they same thing when i reached 60mph. so i took it back today and i looked at the machine when he was re-balancing them and it was off by .25 so he had to add another weight to the front rims, and after that it all went away. i got up to 115mph and rode smooth. so try taking it to a performance shop and ask to re-balance them, or take it back where u bought them from and tell them to recheck and watch while they r doing it.
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Rotate the wheels from the front to the back and test drive. If it the vibration goes to the rear, its something with the way theyre balanced. Have them rebalance them again. If the vibration still happens up front after rotating them, it could be a bad tire, sidewall, tread or some suspension component.
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Old May 17, 2004
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you implied that it seemed to get worse on the last drive after driving it a while? Sounds like it could be a defective tire, out of round maybe or seperated possibly.
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Old May 18, 2004
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Thanks for all the imput. Just kills me that I have had them look at them 4 times because of this.
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Sounds to me like they are just out of balance. The shop that you took them to probably just did a rush job. Have them rebalanced. Also check the tires, make sure they look ok, no bulges or anything.
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i have been having this problem for a while.....just never got around to getting them rebalanced.....wheres a good place where they'll do quality work???
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also u should check your wheel bearings as well.. if u got a bigger tire maybe that wore them out a lil quicker than normal
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you should try to have your wheels static balanced
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Old May 18, 2004
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My old stock tires vibrated like crazy, even after balancing. Then I got new ones and no problems since.
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had the same problem when i put my friends steelies on. its the tire balance. it must be off. put my old tires back on and it was fine. also it could be a underinflated tire..
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mine do it all the time on my stock wheels. I have one tire that has a tiny bend in it, but I will change it when I get new tieres.
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I got a shake problem as well. I hit a railroad track going about 30 mph and it busted busted my tire and slightly bent my rim on the front drivers side. The next day I got both front tires replaced and left tire place and my car started shaking like crazy when I got over about 20 mph. Took them back and had the re-balance them...same problem....went back to my stock rims and tires same problem. I have no idea about what is wrong now, no matter what tires is on my car it shakes. You guys have any ideas?!?
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maybe it is your bearings?
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Originally Posted by streetglower
maybe it is your bearings?
good possibilty I need to find somewhere to take it to have it checked out.
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just go to the dealership or any mechanic to check your bearing. on another note i think the problem i had with the steelies were that they needed hubcentric rings. right now i have Enkei rims and hubcentric rings were put on because it was suggested by the store mechanic where i got the rims. dont worry though, the rings were free.
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Old Jul 16, 2004
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maybe its ur axle. its prolly bent. if u hit a railroad track pretty hard...
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Originally Posted by trance4mer
maybe its ur axle. its prolly bent. if u hit a railroad track pretty hard...
I think that may be it as well as something in the steering. Whenever i turn to the right and hold the break while driving (ie: turning at a 90 degree corner) I hear a popping noise. The worst part is I can't get it checked out till sometime next month (wedding is costing so much $$$$).
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Old Jul 18, 2004
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I had 14 inch motegi mr7's that did it even when they had the stock tires. I sold the 14 inch rims to a guy with a galant and it does the same thing to him. I now have 18 inch rims and it still shakes even with hub centric rings. My brother's 17 inch rims on his camry shake too. It's not the car, its the aftermarket rims. All the balancing and alignment in the world won't fix it.
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Old Jul 18, 2004
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oh sh*t... i have the same problem. when i turn as much as i can and apply the brakes it pops around alot too. and i dont know what the hell it is. i was thinkin of bleaching the brakes and refillin it with new brake fluide. but i get the same problem. since the first week after gettin out the dealer...
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Old Jul 19, 2004
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I'm not a mechanic or anything, but the popping sound while turning happened on my Grand Am. It was the CV joint. I doubt that it would go bad on a new car, but it could be worth looking at...
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yeah i got a poppin noise after i installed my lowering srings. maybe i messed sumthin up. and the brake things, thats sumthin else i get too. the brake pedal feels as if it wer bouncing. maybe there air in the lines or sumthin i dunno. but the popping when i turn the steering wheel ive had ever since the lowering spring instal. the bouncing of the brake perdal when i brake and turn the steering wheel all the way, ive since i got the car....
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still dont know what the hell it is. ill look into the CV joint. thanx for the info..
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if the sound is a repeating pop, pop, pop, pop while in a turn and moving forward and more noticable while applying the brake in the turn. It mostlikely is the cv-joint . First thing to look for is a torn cv-boot. If the boot is torn replace at the min the joint and or complete cv-shaft. Cv-joints are basicaly a half doze bearings that are under VERY tight clearances. If any dirt at all has entered the joint it will most likely need replaced
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Prolly it is not BALANCED RIGHT
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i have hte samet hing with my car also. i'm waiting until i hit 30,000 to rotate/ balance my tires and hopefully that will fix everything...if not then EH
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will that 30k service be free from the dealer or r u goin to have to pay it urself?? free as in part of the warranty and sh*t...
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