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Old Feb 19, 2004
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What do you recommend for good brake setup?

Ok, I really have to say honda brakes suck ***. So I want to know from everyone what a good combination of brakes would be to get great stopping power? I know the best would be a big brake kit and all that stuff, but I dont have the money. What I was thinking was getting some brembo cross drilled rotors, some hawk or ebc stuff brake pads and stainless steel brake lines. Should I think about the drums too? let me know.
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my brakes suck right now and I want something better.
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Re: What do you recommend for good brake setup?

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Ok, I really have to say honda brakes suck ***. So I want to know from everyone what a good combination of brakes would be to get great stopping power? I know the best would be a big brake kit and all that stuff, but I dont have the money. What I was thinking was getting some brembo cross drilled rotors, some hawk or ebc stuff brake pads and stainless steel brake lines. Should I think about the drums too? let me know.

ok, time to clear some stuff up.

1. Big brake kits are only good if you are overheating the current brake system
2. Cross drilled rotors are just for show, slotted is better, blanks if you are really pushing the brakes.
3. for better/shorter stoping distances...... two things influence this, Brake pads and Tires, after all you can only stop as quickly as your tires will let you.

what pad you need is dependant on how hot you get your brakes, for Street Something like Hawk HP+ would be good. if you push it more (moutain running) I highly suggest getting a Higher temp pad.

heres a listing of pad compounds and the temps they are good to

Porterfield R4 1600F
Porterfield R4-S 1100F ( I run these front and rear Pad/shoe)
EBC greenstuff 1022 F
EBC Redstuff 1380
Hawk HP+ 800F
Hawk Black (M) 900F
Hawk Blue 9021 (E) 1000F
Hawk HT-10 1600F
(Hawk makes a multitude of pad compounds that are good from 800-1600F)
Axxis Ultimate 1000F
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what do you mean by blanks if you are really pushing the brakes? I just want as better braking, when I brake now, they still kinda grind, but I just got new brake pads and shoes, and got new rotors and drums not long ago. I do use my car for pizza delivering so I know that comes into play, but I want something better.
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Originally posted by streetglower
what do you mean by blanks if you are really pushing the brakes? I just want as better braking, when I brake now, they still kinda grind, but I just got new brake pads and shoes, and got new rotors and drums not long ago. I do use my car for pizza delivering so I know that comes into play, but I want something better.

I say blanks for heavy braking because heavy braking makes a lot of heat, and when ever you remove mass form the rotor (Drilling or slotting) you increase the opperating temps of that rotor = more likely to incounter brake fade due to heat (Boiling the brake fluid ect..).


If you are not doing any really Hard driving a good street pad will do wonders (AEM/Nissin or other ceramic pad). If you push the car a bit harder or are heavy on the brakes then a Higher temp pad may be in order like Hawk HP+ or better.


also, having the right tires will shorten your stoping distances too.
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you also forget the facts of surface contact. More is also a plus with the obvious disadvantage. An added benefit of bigger rotors and 4 pistion calipers would be a tuned brake MC.
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Originally posted by Zzyzx
I say blanks for heavy braking because heavy braking makes a lot of heat, and when ever you remove mass form the rotor (Drilling or slotting) you increase the opperating temps of that rotor = more likely to incounter brake fade due to heat (Boiling the brake fluid ect..).


If you are not doing any really Hard driving a good street pad will do wonders (AEM/Nissin or other ceramic pad). If you push the car a bit harder or are heavy on the brakes then a Higher temp pad may be in order like Hawk HP+ or better.


also, having the right tires will shorten your stoping distances too.
So basically it would be better to go with brembo regular rotors or brembo slotted rotors? I usually use my brakes alot and sometimes hard. which in turn makes alot of heat. I will probably get hawk pads or something. What about the rear drums? Does anybody make a good rear drum for our car?
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i would say, get the brembo blanks, Hawk HP+ or EBC green stuff pads, and see if you can find the Hawk of EBC rear brake shoes(shoes are for drums). if not, i wouldnt really worry about the rear, the rear only does about 15-20% of the braking
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what about steel brake lines? Are they worth getting?
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i dint think theyre that big of a deal, they will give better response under hard braking i think. that is because they will not expand under pressure. but, for your needs i dont think theyre necessary.

Zzyzx, comments?
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ok, I went ahead and ordered ebc greenstuff pads and brembo blank rotors, I will let you all know the outcome.
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cool, im interrested to hear your opinion!
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Originally posted by streetglower
what about steel brake lines? Are they worth getting?
Depends, on older cars the brake lines have uahually become flexible, from years of use. So getting steel braded lines helps get rid of that flex. on newer cars the lines havent been warn in as much so you probably wont feel a difference. However if you do track days and the like, they are a good safety feature Vs debree that may cut a normal brake line.
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