Anyone With Pics of Spoon rims?
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Anyone With Pics of Spoon rims?
Anyone got 15 or 16 inche spoon sport rims on their civic coupes...you know the black ones?? If so, could you paste the picture. It would help if the picture had the rims mounted on the car without a drop, but if it's dropped the pic would still be appreciated. THX.
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Those with rota slipstreams need not post pics. Those are not spoons.
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I know you said not the rota slipstreams, but those are exact replicas of the spoons. You know what they look like from seeing Rota's on cars so why do you need "real" spoon rims? Just photoshop it.
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Rep Power: 424 One person on here has them... think its XXJDMCIVICXX or something like that. So save the trouble of waiting for them to reply and just look up their gallery.
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Rep Power: 380 I dont really see the point, the Rotas look Identical... they only weigh a bit more. and for the price of the Spoons, I'd rather get a set of Kodiaks.. but thats just me.
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Rep Power: 0 Rotas have more gloss to them, which is why I asked for spoon pics.
And why do I prefer spoon rims over FAKE replicas? Do I really need to answer this question? Would you buy a car that looks like a Civic, but not made by Honda? No, becuase you trust Honda for quality. Rota copied the design, but they are definately not the same. I'd put anything that the spoons are a higher quality rim.
Also, Rotas weigh more than the spoons. I believe the 15 inch spoons are around 9 lbs while the slipfakes are around 15lbs each. Sorry to bust your bubble, but I care about performance so those extra pounds matter to me. So no, I'm not buying 17 or 18 inch rims that do nothing but weigh me down. The spoons also look nice to me so that's all that matters.
Those new Velox rims are pretty nice as well. I believe they weigh 11lbs or so. The RH CP8-R's are 17 inch rims that weigh 12lbs. These are also nice, but the +1 takes away from it's performance, but some people sacrifice performance for looks. I would sacrifice looks for performance. That's just me though and everyone else has their own ways and I respect that. Just my .02 cents here.
And why do I prefer spoon rims over FAKE replicas? Do I really need to answer this question? Would you buy a car that looks like a Civic, but not made by Honda? No, becuase you trust Honda for quality. Rota copied the design, but they are definately not the same. I'd put anything that the spoons are a higher quality rim.
Also, Rotas weigh more than the spoons. I believe the 15 inch spoons are around 9 lbs while the slipfakes are around 15lbs each. Sorry to bust your bubble, but I care about performance so those extra pounds matter to me. So no, I'm not buying 17 or 18 inch rims that do nothing but weigh me down. The spoons also look nice to me so that's all that matters.
Those new Velox rims are pretty nice as well. I believe they weigh 11lbs or so. The RH CP8-R's are 17 inch rims that weigh 12lbs. These are also nice, but the +1 takes away from it's performance, but some people sacrifice performance for looks. I would sacrifice looks for performance. That's just me though and everyone else has their own ways and I respect that. Just my .02 cents here.
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Rep Power: 0 Of course the spoon rims are a better rim, but they're also 4 times more expensive, so... are they 4x times better? No... would the extra 1200 dollars you save by not buying spoon rims be better spent of front and rear sway bars, upper and lower front and rear strut bars... I think so....
The reason why everyone likes the rotas is cause they are CHEAP, and actually have fairly good quality. Personally If i had the money, sure, I'd buy the spoon rims... but if I had that kind of money, I would alse have full coilovers, and the rest of my suspension already setup.
The reason why everyone likes the rotas is cause they are CHEAP, and actually have fairly good quality. Personally If i had the money, sure, I'd buy the spoon rims... but if I had that kind of money, I would alse have full coilovers, and the rest of my suspension already setup.
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Rep Power: 412 If you didn't have health insurance would you buy the non-generic drugs for over $1000 or would you buy the generic brands that do the same thing for $50? I don't want to argue with you but all you had to do was search the members rides or profiles. Just because Rotas are replicas doesn't mean they are bad rims. They look Exactly like the spoons along with many other copies out there. It isn't hard to copy that design. If you hvae the cash for a set, then go ahead. But most of us can't justify spending over $1500 for a set of a rims with no tires.
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Rep Power: 380 slipstreams are 11.8 lbs, and how do you make a FAKE replica? also, the spoons only 15 is a 15X6.5, Rota makes that and a 15X7, I would trade off a little weight for a wider wheel. also Rota is as trust worthy as spoon when it comes to wheels.
and Like robbclark brought up for $1500 I'd rather get a set of Kodiak in 15X7.5 that weighs as much as your spoons.
For the Kodiaks in 15X7.5 the cost is 344.09 each so thats $1376.36... Vs $1729.88 (according tothe site Renamazazo posted)
thats $353.52 more for a wheel that is an inch narower. so if you'r in to performance as much as you say, lose the Spoons and get those. Its cheeper and you'd get a better wheel.
and Like robbclark brought up for $1500 I'd rather get a set of Kodiak in 15X7.5 that weighs as much as your spoons.
For the Kodiaks in 15X7.5 the cost is 344.09 each so thats $1376.36... Vs $1729.88 (according tothe site Renamazazo posted)
thats $353.52 more for a wheel that is an inch narower. so if you'r in to performance as much as you say, lose the Spoons and get those. Its cheeper and you'd get a better wheel.
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Rep Power: 0 Ok dont flame me if this is wrong but someone once told me you can always tell the fakes bacuse spoon never made a slipstream in a four lug they were always five lug since the type r and civic and integra were. This could be wrong but im just saying correct me if it is.
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Rep Power: 424 I don't know how much control over the price of the 388's Spoon has. Now it may work backwards from the wheels fame as the infamous Spoon wheel, but Desmond makes the wheel. The SW388 is just a specific version of the Regamaster EVO (which the Slipstream is really a knockoff of, because its the one available in all the colors). They're also give or take $450 a piece. Spoonies are clearly the better known one, but something tells me that Desmond has a lot to do with the pricing. They're so light because they're Aluminum shot (pellets) and forged, not a solid billet. The heat and pressure of fusing the wheel together gives the wheel its strength and its light weight because it doesn't require the compression of any more material than is necessary.
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Rep Power: 0 What he said /\ I don't really have a good pic of my spoons but i got them for a good price from a friend so I picked them up. I would never pay retail for them. Add when ppl steal the spoon stems or valve caps there a bitch to replace like 100$ from spoon :@.
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Rep Power: 0 Thank you XxJDMCivicxX. Seems like you are one of the few that replied. And for those that think I will pay the full price for some spoon, you are mistaken.
I dont have problems with OTHER ppl buying some slipstreams, but that's not how I roll. The only thing I'm intested in is Zzyzx reply.
So this is for Zzyzx: I went to the link you provided and it states the rims are forged 3 piece which kind of derails my interest in them while the spoons are forged in one piece I believe. I only mention this becuase I've always been told a single piece rim is stronger than a muli piece rim.
Since you are the only one to mention a better rim for performance purposes, I want to know more. I do know the spoons are only 6.5 wide which I do dislike, but I'm wondering which is stronger? Please reply with somemore info since it seems you are trying to help and not tell me to buy slipstreams which I dont want.
I dont have problems with OTHER ppl buying some slipstreams, but that's not how I roll. The only thing I'm intested in is Zzyzx reply.
So this is for Zzyzx: I went to the link you provided and it states the rims are forged 3 piece which kind of derails my interest in them while the spoons are forged in one piece I believe. I only mention this becuase I've always been told a single piece rim is stronger than a muli piece rim.
Since you are the only one to mention a better rim for performance purposes, I want to know more. I do know the spoons are only 6.5 wide which I do dislike, but I'm wondering which is stronger? Please reply with somemore info since it seems you are trying to help and not tell me to buy slipstreams which I dont want.
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Rep Power: 380 The parts on a 3 piece wheel are the center and two shells (where the wheel mounts). the advantages of a 3 piece wheel is that each piece can be forged to be its strongest, and if any of the 3 peices gets damaged you can easily and cheaply replace that part of the wheel (If you drive hard eventually you will bend a wheel, which is why I purchaced inexpensive Rotas). I would believe that a quality 3 piece wheel would be stronger and possibly lighter then a similar sized one piece. Also, since this is a custom wheel, it can be made to fit your car EXACTLY, you get to pick the offset, the center boar, the wheel width. For absolute performance you'd want at least a 7" wheel, I dont konw if we can fit an 8 but I know we can fit a 7.5 (From talking to the guys I autocross with (some with 25+ years of experiance) they agree that its better to trade off a little wieght for a wider wheel). so even if the 15X7.5 Kodiaks weiged more the the SW388 it would still perform better, because you would be able to get more tire on the ground.
another company you may want to check out is Keizer Race wheels I'm not too fond of their styling, and their wheel width is a bit more limited but you can get Magnesium centers to make the wheel lighter....
And now the down side of a 3 piece wheel..... not much except if you have to take them apart (For repairs or what ever) you have to make sure you re-seal them right, or they'll leak and you'll have to take them appart again and reseal them...... Thats about it.
About the SPoons, when i was first looking for wheels for autocross I would have loved to get a set of SW388s, but cost was prohibitive, so I got a set of Light weigh Rotas in 15X6.5 (3 months before the 15X7s were avalible
). So far I've been happy with my rotas, they are much lighter then stock, and my 17s. But if I knew then what I know now, I would have not even considered any 6.5" wheel no matter what the weight (Including the Spoons). not that 6.5s are bad, In fact I'm very happy with mine. But I know that if I had a litte wider wheel I could be going that much faster.....
another company you may want to check out is Keizer Race wheels I'm not too fond of their styling, and their wheel width is a bit more limited but you can get Magnesium centers to make the wheel lighter....
And now the down side of a 3 piece wheel..... not much except if you have to take them apart (For repairs or what ever) you have to make sure you re-seal them right, or they'll leak and you'll have to take them appart again and reseal them...... Thats about it.
About the SPoons, when i was first looking for wheels for autocross I would have loved to get a set of SW388s, but cost was prohibitive, so I got a set of Light weigh Rotas in 15X6.5 (3 months before the 15X7s were avalible
). So far I've been happy with my rotas, they are much lighter then stock, and my 17s. But if I knew then what I know now, I would have not even considered any 6.5" wheel no matter what the weight (Including the Spoons). not that 6.5s are bad, In fact I'm very happy with mine. But I know that if I had a litte wider wheel I could be going that much faster..... Thread Starter
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Thanks for the quick response, and yes I'm willing to to sacrifice a pound or two for a wider wheel. My question is whether or not a 7.5 width will be two wide. I dont want them to stick out like a low rider car with those 1000 spoke wheels.
So I'm wondering if 15x7 is the best for our cars. This Kodiak wheel is looking better and better. I'm just wondering where you got the wheel weights from??
Thanks for the quick response, and yes I'm willing to to sacrifice a pound or two for a wider wheel. My question is whether or not a 7.5 width will be two wide. I dont want them to stick out like a low rider car with those 1000 spoke wheels.
So I'm wondering if 15x7 is the best for our cars. This Kodiak wheel is looking better and better. I'm just wondering where you got the wheel weights from??
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Rep Power: 412 a 7.5 would be fine for racing. If you plan on them being your everday rims, then they might stick out a bit but nothing noticeable. A 15x7 would be great, but a 7.5 better for racing. It will also depend on how low you go and your tire size. You dont want to rub the fender well.
there are a few places to get wheel weights. www.wheelweights.net and www.wheelspecs.com
there are a few places to get wheel weights. www.wheelweights.net and www.wheelspecs.com
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Thanks for the quick response, and yes I'm willing to to sacrifice a pound or two for a wider wheel. My question is whether or not a 7.5 width will be two wide. I dont want them to stick out like a low rider car with those 1000 spoke wheels.
So I'm wondering if 15x7 is the best for our cars. This Kodiak wheel is looking better and better. I'm just wondering where you got the wheel weights from??
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Thanks for the quick response, and yes I'm willing to to sacrifice a pound or two for a wider wheel. My question is whether or not a 7.5 width will be two wide. I dont want them to stick out like a low rider car with those 1000 spoke wheels.
So I'm wondering if 15x7 is the best for our cars. This Kodiak wheel is looking better and better. I'm just wondering where you got the wheel weights from??
I'm under the impression that the Kodiaks, Kaisers, etc... are not intended for street use, nor should they be used for street driving. They're just racing wheels, and are designed and built as such.
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Rep Power: 0 nice, jdm civicx they look nice with the dark paint, i cant imagine what they would look like on red.
im not to sure if this a good deal but my buddy henry at his shop quoted me at 800 for a set with 15 inch falken rubber. this good?
im not to sure if this a good deal but my buddy henry at his shop quoted me at 800 for a set with 15 inch falken rubber. this good?
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Rep Power: 380 True the wheels arn't approved by the DOT (wich is probably why the manufactureres say for race use only) but I think that they would be more then able to hold up to the rigors of street use, as long as you had a tall enough tire on them. If you were running an 18 with a short tire then ya I think youd be bending the lips left and right. but with a 15, with a street tire.... i dont think their would be any problems. as long as you went with a reputible company.
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Rep Power: 0 zzyzx... i dont know about your side of town but in GV i know every bump and rock in the road. im slammed on ground controls and its a shytty ride with no aftermarket shocks... i want these wheels but thats exactly what i was afraid of.
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Rep Power: 380 Silverado Ranch my self, ya konw where they havent finished a single road..... I konw what you mean about the bumps, but even so, with the proper tire I dont think you'd have a problem, especially if your runnig a 15 (the shortest tire youd run woud probably be a 50 series... at least for the street.)
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Rep Power: 0 Yes I plan to use the rims I purchase for everyday driving and I would not get small tires. Something like the stock tire size cept a better street tire or something like XxJDMCivicxX tires wrapped around his spoons.. SO just wondering if it would be applicable for everyday street use AND highway.
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Rep Power: 380 I did a little seaching around and found this thread for ya at theSCCA Forums. seems to relate to what we were talking about, specificly this quote
so Like I said, I don't think you'd have any problems running Keizers or Kodiaks on the street.
On a side note, one of the Club members that I race with has an ITC car, he runs a set of 13X9 Keizers and they weigh a whoping 6 LBS........ so I can see a 15X7.5 being in the Sub 10 LBS range.
Driving on the streat can not be any harder on rims then what we do to them with race rubber and loading them in the corners (And I am not talking about ST tires). I would say if you watch out for pot holes the the rims should be fine. If you are running Azenis tires then the stiff side walls from hell should do a fine job of protecting the rims.
so Like I said, I don't think you'd have any problems running Keizers or Kodiaks on the street.
On a side note, one of the Club members that I race with has an ITC car, he runs a set of 13X9 Keizers and they weigh a whoping 6 LBS........ so I can see a 15X7.5 being in the Sub 10 LBS range.
