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Old Jul 9, 2003
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Tire weight

Falken Ziex 512 - 19.8 lbs
Toyo T1-S - 20.1 lbs
Kumho Ecsta MX - 21.0 lbs
Nitto Neo Gen - 22.1 lbs
Dunlop FM901 - 22.3 lbs
Kumho Ecsta Supra - 23.0 lbs
Yokohama ES100 - 23.1 lbs
Falken GRB 451 - 24.3 lbs

215/45/17 tire sizes weight
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Very interesting and helpful.
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Very interesting and helpful.

yes...thank you
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Originally posted by 666
Very interesting and helpful.

I agree
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Just remember, Light weight tires may help in reducing unsprung weight thus improving acceleration but it also means (typically) that they have weaker side walls.

Weak sidewalls = more tire deflection=less traction in the corners.

some tires with stiff sidewalls (Good for corners, not good for drag launches)
1. Falken Azenis
2. Bridgestone Potenza S-03 Pole Position
3. Yokohama ES100
4. Kumho Ecsta 712
5. Kumho MX
6. BF Goodrich TA-KD

some with not so stiff side walls

1. Yokohama AVS S1 and A520
2. Bridgestone RE730 , and S01 Pole Position
3. Dunlop SP8000 and 9000
4. Falken ZIEX 502 and Gr-B (Beta)
5. Michelin Pilot Sport series
6. Goodyear Eagle F1 series, and GS Series

Some with soft side walls (Good drag launches, Bad cornering)

1. Yokohama AVS Intermediate
2. Dunlop FM901
3. Michelin Exalto, MMX3 and SXGT
4. Continental CZ91 Sport Contact
5. Dunlop SP6000
6. Firestone Firehawk SZ and EP
7. Nitto NT555 and 555R (Excellent for Drag, Poor sideways loading)
8. Most sport all season and touring tires

there are others, but im lazy.
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Another little thread of knowledge that would be handy if it were available for future reference.

Thanks guys
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nice, i want some F1's... are they bad for corners?
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Goodyear Eagle F1's? They look to be in the middle. you also have to look at tire compounds, and tread design. For corners and acceleration, you want large tread blocks (More rubber touching the ground, less tread squerm). for wet traction you want small tread blocks with larger voids (more water can be evacuated from under the tire) Just look at the difference in tread patters for all season tires and Dry Summer tires.


Goodyear Eagle F1


BF Goodrich f-Force TA/KD


Kumho ECSTA MX


The ever popular Parda Spec-2


My personal Faverote Falken Azenis sport


Michelin Pilot Sport A/S


Just by looking at the tread designs, which do you think will be better in the rain? in the dry?

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Who can tell me something about Bridgestone Potenza RE950s?
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Originally posted by Zzyzx
Goodyear Eagle F1's? They look to be in the middle...
He is right again (of course )

On dry pavement they are behind the top tires - their real advantage is in the wet. Tire Rack tested the F1 GS-D3 in the 225/45-17 size against the S03 Pole Position and the Michelin Pilot Sport.

Those other 2 tires, which are big money, placed better in the dry handling and the subjective "how do they feel" categories. The wet performance of the F1's was so good they ended up coming in a close 2nd place, right behind the S03 Pole Positions.

(The Lexus IS300 test car pulled 0.91g on the WET skidpad with the F1's compared to 0.86 for the Pilots & 0.87 for the S03's)
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Ah, so that's the difference between the Firehawk SZ50 (does that count the latest EP version?) and the Potenza S-03 Pole Piston. Although they're pretty much the same tire coming from the same company that uses the same technology, I've learned the Firestone will outlast the Bridgestone in longevity however the Bridgestone version is much better for cornering on the track.

Good info.
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What about the Bridgestone RE040?
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*bump because I like this thread and question still isn't answered* Might have to PM him I guess.
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