AlexNOS2001civic

Ok heres the deal..... About 3 weeks ago I took my car into the honda dealership b/c my idle

was running really low to the point where it might turn off. so i took it to them and the said it was the computer. so all they did was reset it. ok fine then a few days later it happened

again. but this time my car turned off everytime it was idleing. i took it in again and they said that they need to order a part for it. ok fine they said it was the idle air control valve. so they

replaced it and they said alright its all good now. cool so a day later it happened again... i called the techs up that worked on my car and they said it might be my AEM cold air intake! they said the cold air intake is probably the problem. he said b/c cold air is interfering with the sensor!! i was pissed casue he said i should take out the intake and put in the regualr stock intake. Has anyone had this happen to them? what should i do??

CarbonFly

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Does anyone else smell the alluring scent of bovine fecal matter?

Spider883

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yea i smell some BS there.. no one else i had heard of has had that problem

Bartkat

I've never heard of that being a problem. But for the effort it would be worth trying to prove or disprove what they are saying.

white2K2EX

phew... stinky stinky. CAI would have nothing to do with your problem. That's just them trying to place blame on something/one other than them. But, to get them to work, put your stock airbox back on, and if the problem persists, go in and start yelling.

Dr5D

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R3DL1N3

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my friend who has a 00 eclipse gs had that problem. everytime he would idle his car would shut off. he took it to the mitsu place and they ALSO told him it was his intake. they then put the stock intake back on and told him it was fixed. right when he exited the parking lot his damn car SHUT OFF AGAIN. they then determined the problem wasnt the intake and put it back on for him. so ill tell you now, THE PROBLEM ISNT YOUR INTAKE. my friend just said his quit doing it eventually...which doesnt make since in theory but hes correct in it not shutting off anymore..oh well. i thought that would help some.

pbfoot

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i have that sort of problem and i have stock intake. my car never shuts off tho so ive never gotten it checked out...but sometimes it idles REALLY low and starts kinda puttering. its really weird. like i have to push the clutch in so it doesnt shut off.
the whole thing about the CAI is BS.

S2000man01

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Two words: MAP SENSOR

This can happen when weather gets really weird and affects your map sensor readings. Your ECU has to re-learn the approrpriate mappings for the change in weather. You can reset your ECU by pulling the fuse for it for about 30 seconds. Then I'd also maybe give your map sensor a rap or two (just knock it a couple times like knocking on a door with your knuckles). If that doesn't fix it, you may have a faulty map sensor.

And this belongs in tech stuff.

FlippedOut

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Elite

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just put the stock one back on and see what happens ride with it on for like a day for the ecu to reset it actually takes like 5 minutes for it to reset and give them crap maybe it might be your intake, we may never know untill you try lol. And try what s2000 man said, take out the fuse.

S2000man01

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I would be absolutely shocked if it had anything to do with the intake. I stand by the fact that it's more than likely a quick change in temps or a faulty map sensor. (which you CAN get without getting CEL)

Bartkat

Changing back to stock intake would eliminate that as a cause then and prove to the Honda people, also. That seems to be the current problem, convincing the service people. The part about the MAP sensor could be a poor conection or loose vaccuum line as well.

S2000man01

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ooo. forgot about the vacuum line. good call.

Bartkat

Could have happened when he installed the intake?

Guys used to pull the vaccuum hoses off their carbs when cruising the drive ins, the cars would idle rough and sorta simulate a high lift cam idle.

I got some small experience in the MAP and TPS when I installed the Venom 400. Had to tie in to the sensor wires.

Aaron01ex

It sounds like you have a bad MAP, but it could also be a faulty throttle body. If you can revv your car and keep it from stalling then it might be your throttle body. My did something similar when i would stop at a light it would drop the idle and it was rough, so i put some platinum 4 spark plugs in and it was fixed. It sounds like yours is worse though.

sawgunner06

Get a second opinion and see waht happens. From another dealer

2k12rsx

I've actually had a problem with my idle. My check engine light came on but nothing happened for at least 15,000 miles down the road when that idle thing started happening. It wasn't bad at first but it got so bad that I had to take it in. I ended up having to get my whole wiring harness, both o2 sensors, and my ECU changed. Also...I had a Injen CAI for reference.

jrock2324

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Its the MAP. My friend had the same problem. We change it and did not have the problem anymore. He also had a CAI on has car too.

megacivicfan

I have a 2001 DX, and I have 67,000 on it with only one problem, the one described here.

Lesson one, dealers love to give you sh*t about anything aftermarket, anything.

I brought my car into the dealer at 62k, because suddenly the check engine light went on and the car didn't want to idle worth a crap, of course it decides it wants to do this to me while i'm in rush hour, and I drive a 5spd.

Anyway, the dealer gave me crap and said the aftermarket intake could be the cause, they cleared the fault code from the computer, said it was ok, well it was for 5 miles, then again. Turned right around and went back. They did the same thing, and the same thing happened again. They kept referring to the SRI on my car.

Well I bitched, finally got them to look at the car, and it turns out that the throttle position sensor was sending faulty signals to the ecu, that's why the idle was crappy, and with our cars, you can't replace just the sensor, you have to replace THE WHOLE DAMN THROTTLE BODY!!

I have the extended warranty on my car, thus the hassle, but they covered it anyway, and the car's been fine since.

Aaron01ex

I knew it might be throttle body, sorry you had to go through the trouble but it is good to know. I'm going to get an aftermarket throttle body as soon as warranty is up.

nittanylion504

I had this problem too. Let me preface this with my experience. I do some tuning on my 87 Monte with an LT-1 (I do the ecm stuff myself). It runs with a speed density routine. I'm guessing that my civic is the same general approach. Anyway, I started having the same problem with the stalling out thing. I thought that maybe if I changed my air intake it would help (I had broken the bolts on the oem air intake so I needed to do this anyway). It didn't. I took the car to the dealer and they said that they flashed the ECM because the idle was set too low. I was really confused because the idle is a set point on my GM car. It still idles rough but doesn't stall out. It seems like it does it when the second fan kicks off. The point being that those guys never said anything about my air intake or acted like it could cause a problem.

S2000man01

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lol, this thread is over a year old. but it's cool cuz you're new here.

welcome to 7thgencivic.com.

nittanylion504

nice, always starting out on the right foot. Thanks for the heads up.

Bartkat

Not to worry. If someone started a new thread, someone would bitch about that too.

turboslug

i think honda now has a TSB regarding this...

i think the fix was to update the software in the ECU?

Bartkat

You can look up TSB's at this link.

http://www.alldata.com/TSB/0124_mo.html

J-spec-SiR2

make the guys at honda kiss ur *** .. then laugh at them and tell them to give u a new car since they sold u a lemon