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2002 Civic Ball Joints again

I just replaced both front ball joints about 6 months ago. I noticed over the weekend that the driver's side rubber is completely destroyed. What could have caused this to happen?
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

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I just replaced both front ball joints about 6 months ago. I noticed over the weekend that the driver's side rubber is completely destroyed. What could have caused this to happen?
i hate to even ask......what brand are they?
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

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i hate to even ask......what brand are they?
Whatever brand they sell at Advance Auto Parts. I'm not sure I saw a specific brand name on the box.

The Advance website says they are "Driveworks."
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

Get some Moog ones. They have nice thick rubber boots that will last.
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

Wow. All this work because of cheepo balljoints? The thing is they are supposedly lifetime warranty.
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

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I'm not sure I saw a specific brand name on the box.
and this did not concern you?
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

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and this did not concern you?
No because it said lifetime warranty right on the receipt. They are Driveworks.
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

On the Advance website the Moog ball joint is available for 2x the cost but it had a bunch of 1 star reviews. I see now that it was because of zerk fitting on ABS applications.
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

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On the Advance website the Moog ball joint is available for 2x the cost but it had a bunch of 1 star reviews.
what rating does yours have?
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

5 stars
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

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No because it said lifetime warranty right on the receipt. They are Driveworks.
okay.....so use the lifetime warranty and return them for new ones

problem solved?
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

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okay.....so use the lifetime warranty and return them for new ones

problem solved?
Thanks, you've been a great help.
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

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Thanks, you've been a great help.
what do u want me to say?

you bought cheap aftermarket parts,

so you now have two options.....use your lifetime warranty and replace your ball joints every 6 - 12 months, or purchase quality ball joints such as OEM/honda
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

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what do u want me to say?

you bought cheap aftermarket parts,

so you now have two options.....use your lifetime warranty and replace your ball joints every 6 - 12 months, or purchase quality ball joints such as OEM/honda
What point are you trying to make? I get it from about the second reply. I walked into Advance and asked for ball joints. I got screwed on the deal and there is no need to rub it in.
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

Originally Posted by mapdog
I just replaced both front ball joints about 6 months ago. I noticed over the weekend that the driver's side rubber is completely destroyed. What could have caused this to happen?
Is it possible that the rubber was damaged during installation? or was excessive grease put in?
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

Originally Posted by mapdog
What point are you trying to make? I get it from about the second reply. I walked into Advance and asked for ball joints. I got screwed on the deal and there is no need to rub it in.
Look on the bright side. If you did the work yourself you just wasted your time. You can get free ones, take those and sell them on craigslist. Buy moog ones. You'll lose maximum $40 plus your time if you can't sell the free ones on Craigslist. You'd have to buy the moog ones anyway. Anything you sell the free ones for is a bonus
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

^ wow way to make lemonade.

your a glass half full personality aren't you?
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

Damn, I was making the popcorn and I missed all the action!
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

Originally Posted by alex_nyc
Is it possible that the rubber was damaged during installation? or was excessive grease put in?
I think more than likely, it was just the cheepo ball joints I bought from Advance. I was fooled by their "lifetime warranty." I'll get the Moogs soon and lick my wounds.
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

Return the Driveworks at Advance Auto for warranty but ask for store credit instead. Order the Moog from Amazon for $27.39 each.
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

^ sounds like a good plan to me!
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

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Damn, I was making the popcorn and I missed all the action!

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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

Okay, so I got burned by Advance and most have correctly pointed out that it'll only cost me my time.

So here's my question:

Moog -- I've been told they have a thick boot and will last
TRW -- Also available from a few sources. Looks good; I trust the name and they appear to more like the OEM Honda (no zerk fitting).
Honda OEM -- Not sure who makes these, they are missing from the schematic on most Honda parts websites (under knuckle)

Which would you choose?
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

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Okay, so I got burned by Advance and most have correctly pointed out that it'll only cost me my time.

So here's my question:

Moog -- I've been told they have a thick boot and will last
TRW -- Also available from a few sources. Looks good; I trust the name and they appear to more like the OEM Honda (no zerk fitting).
Honda OEM -- Not sure who makes these, they are missing from the schematic on most Honda parts websites (under knuckle)

Which would you choose?
how long did the original ball joints last?
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

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how long did the original ball joints last?
I think I know where you're going with that. Well over 200k miles.
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

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I think I know where you're going with that. Well over 200k miles.
seems like an easy decision to me.....but its your dime
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

My worry is the OEM civic ball joint was pressed in without any C clip. The aftermarket ones come with a C clip. I don't know if the press in/press out process is causing any looseness that will eventually lead to separation.
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

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My worry is the OEM civic ball joint was pressed in without any C clip. The aftermarket ones come with a C clip. I don't know if the press in/press out process is causing any looseness that will eventually lead to separation.
you need to test the size of the opening before installing a new ball joint, if the opening is too big then you need to replace the entire knuckle

read the attached bulletin.......
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

you dont wanna end up like this guy......

https://www.civicforums.com/forums/4...er-assmnt.html
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Re: 2002 Civic Ball Joints again

Originally Posted by mikey1
you need to test the size of the opening before installing a new ball joint, if the opening is too big then you need to replace the entire knuckle

read the attached bulletin.......
Awesome info. Thank you. I wondered if it could ever slip.
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