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Old Dec 21, 2011
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DSM guy with a civic that wont start.

I have been a DSM guy for many years a friend of mine with a 2004 civic said his car wouldn't start, come to find out the tensioner pulley loop had broken where the spring connects to it. I agreed to do a timing belt for him but now the thing wont start, to me(someone who knows nothing about hondas) it sounds like no compression. I replaced the timing belt, water pump, timing belt tensioner, battery and starter. Here is a short video of what it is doing.

http://s1108.photobucket.com/albums/...11219-1622.mp4

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Re: DSM guy with a civic that wont start.

If you do a search, i think there is a DIY for NO start issues and trouble shooting..think its in the 7th gen section..
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Re: DSM guy with a civic that wont start.

When you hooked up the new starter are you sure you grounded it properly? I would double check connections first..test for spark...is your fuel pump relay working? does it prime?

Here is a link to the above mentioned thread..
https://www.civicforums.com/forums/3...ont-start.html
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Re: DSM guy with a civic that wont start.

Timing belt, no compression, my first thought is bent valves.
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Re: DSM guy with a civic that wont start.

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Timing belt, no compression, my first thought is bent valves.
More like no compression on a couple cylinders.

Yup, bent valves comes to mind first.

Next might be flooded.

Do a compression test, dry and wet. You can find the answer in about 15 minutes.
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Re: DSM guy with a civic that wont start.

Okay what is the best way to tell if the valves are bent on this engine?
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Re: DSM guy with a civic that wont start.

do a compression test.
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Re: DSM guy with a civic that wont start.

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do a compression test.
Then a leakdown test on the cylinders that don't pass the wet compression tests.
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Re: DSM guy with a civic that wont start.

no compression in cylinders 1 and 3 about 90-95 in 2 and 4. So I need a new head?
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Re: DSM guy with a civic that wont start.

What would you do if the car was a Mitsu?




Heads get rebuilt all the time. Is it cost effective? Risk factor?
Depends.
Only your customer can decide that.
Oh wait, it's a friend?
You are already going to be a miserable lousy SOB if it costs him any money, so go for it.

Replacement is usually the last option for me. Sending it to a machine shop is usually the first step, let them decide how bad it is. The next steps depend on that answer.

Ummmm check the tops of the pistons for dink marks from the valves and hope the rings didn't get squashed into their grooves.
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