mrb420

Ok, so I washed my car. Dried my car. Then I got out the clay bar and clayed my whole car. Then I rinsed it down with hight pressure soap and rinse. Then I dried it again.
#1, the clay did nothing for the water spots all over my car.
#2, now my car has this clay or wax looking material all over it. Nothing seems to get it off the car. I have used good old fashion elbow grease, quick detailer, windex; the only thing I haven't done is wash the car all over again.

What did I do wrong?
Will having it completly washed again remove the clay/wax material? If that is what it is?

Da1lyDr1ver

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did you use the "lubercant" that came with the clay bar? you're supposed to spray something like 'spray wax' on the surface FIRST then use the clay bar on the surface. then you're supposed to dry it off with a towel. afterwards, you're supposed to use cleaner wax, followed by sealant wax. are you sure you read the directions? what brand clay bar did you use?

mrb420

I used the Meguiar's Quik Clay kit. I sprayed the Quik Detailer on the surface and then went over it with the clay.
It doesn't mention anything about "cleaner wax" Only rhat after claying, rinsing and drying, you shoudl polish and wax for best finish.
I didn't wax do to the fact that there is material that is still present on the car.

DDragon7

It look like you were just using the pressure washer, which im my opion doesnt clean every well. It will never be as clean as using a wash mitt or something to rub it. And you have to dry it with a towel and not sun dried, if that is the problem to the water spots, or maybe the water in your area is very hard, using some type of mineral filter system might help.

R1Style

iTrader: (20)

No offence but you have to have used the clay bar wrong. There is no possible way you can get clay stuck on your car if you did it right.... claybars get everything off... and I mean everything. I've gotten cement and surface rust particles off my car using a clay bar (Mothers).

sltuner88

iTrader: (1)

did you make sure you sprayed over a good amount of area (patricualrly one that you are claying) , just simple lubrication is all you need. and while your claying no need for much pressure (possibly pressed too hard) thats the only way i can think the clay bar must have left some of it...??

hustlelikem0fo

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you didnt go cheap with the lubricant did you? i know those kits come with a small *** bottle of lube...... but its importent to use a lot of lube to avoid getting clay into the paint. when i bought a clay bar kit, it came with a tiny bottle of lube that barely had enough for half a car....

blackdragon

iTrader: (1)

wash, rinse, dry, and clay (properly), paint cleaner, polish and then wax. If i was in your area i'd meet up and show ya how nice claying is. My friends sistter just bought a 03 ES1 SSM and my paint looks better than hers and she bought from the dealer. But i hooked her up

CiViCPrAnInG2k1

iTrader: (1)

LOL @ the title.

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

haha same happened to me but i was smart enough to stop after doing a tiny section. try a microfiber towel to wipe the clay off. its stupid.

DDragon7

First time I tried claybar, last week on my dad's corolla, it looks amazing, it was alot of work but it was worth it. Gonna do mines before fall or next year in spring.

djmota

iTrader: (34)

you need to clay it correctly to get the clay off. spray a good amount to the quick detailer stuff over a SMALL area and LIGHTLY glide the clay bar over the area. if it sticks then you have either used too little of the quick detailer or you are pressing too hard.

soonercivic

Or the surface is too hot. Make sure its cool to the touch.

XSRCivic

iTrader: (19)

you can use soapy water with the clay too, i used that with clay magic. It works like a charm.

mrb420

Well, I found a professional who will do:
1. acid bath
2. full wash
3. polish and wax
He says this will remove the water spots and clay residue.

Does this sound like a good deal?

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

that acid bath doesnt sound too good hmm

soonercivic

Yeah, what the hell is an acid wash? Sounds like it can't be too good. You might want to find out more before he does anything.

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

now i dont feel bad since you dont know either. okay normally an acid bath is used on metal as an early step before anodizing. now i'm gonna take a guess here and say that he meant it as a paint treatment for acid rain damage, like water spots. and that its some sort of neurtalization compound or something.

soonercivic

^^ But don't you know everything? I was concerned when you didnt know. lol. If thats thats what its intended to do, then he can just pick up Meguiars Deep Crystal Step 1 Paint Cleaner. Its a chemical cleaner that has no abrasives and its very easy to use. That will remove any deposits on the paint like hard water spots and air pollutants.. Still, clay bar is the easiest, but apparently that didnt work out so well.


Whats he looking to charge you for this? What type of products does he use?

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

if there is any more mention of the word acid, i would opt out just pick up the meguiars paint cleaner. i used it on my friends 05 black civic that had not been touched in over a year and literally had bugs that were fossilized in the paint. it took off everything and left the paint nice and clean for wax.

rckdrmr

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actually, it does contain light diminishing abrasives. http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/sho...+paint+cleaner

D17thgen

iTrader: (1)

how to use clay
http://www.guidetodetailing.com/arti...p?articleId=14

soonercivic

Ol Mike Phillips there misinformed me then. Good to know though. I always wondered how they got a chemical cleaner to remove swirls. lol

pizzapizza

cleaning the paint with a clay bar is only one step. you've only prepare the surface for the next step. you'll have to use a cleaner wax to remove any residue from the claying part. then use a sealer/glaze to remove any swirl marks. finally, you will have to use a good wax or polish to keep the shine an finish.

after you've clayed the car, it basically has little protection from the environment. you should really start the next steps asap to prevent more harm to the finish.

gearbox

iTrader: (95)

ya good info.

soonercivic

True, a clay bar is only the first step, however any clay residue should be removed by the second wash and that should only be the extra lubricant on the surface. The cleaner wax, or preferrably a paint cleaner that does not double as a wax, is intended to remove defects in the surface. If you use it to remove ANY residue/contaminates on the surface you are only going to rub the residue/contaminates around and cause more defects. It can be done, and will need to be repeated in order to remove defects and therefore doubling your work, but clay barring is the preferred method. Then you will need to follow it up with a good polish AND wax. If you only choose a polish, then you are not providing any surface protection. If you choose only a wax, then you will be robbing the paint of its natural oils and increase the risk of clearcoat failure or premature fading. And in fact, once you have clayed the car, you have zero protection from anything. The idea behind the clay bar is that it takes the paint back to a bare surface, so you are right in advising him to take the next steps asap.

mrb420

The acid bath was a success.
The guy did the acid bath, followed by a wash with a clay bar, then he waxed and polished it. Finally, he detailed the inside.
All for $70. It took like 4 hrs.
Well worth the money.

blackdragon

iTrader: (1)

we need pics mang!!

soonercivic

Glad it worked. Definetly need pics. May I ask what the point of the acid bath was if he was going to clay bar it anyway?

tinman

Yeah, I have my car clayed and detailed every six months for $75. Well worth it to watch someone ELSE work. They come and wash the car every other week for $25.

I pay it because I A) have no time, B) am lazy, C) the car always looks NEW, and D) it's a business expense come tax time.

My 02 still looks like fresh off the lot. Inside and out. It even still has a little of that new car smell.... mmmmmmmm....

Always amazed at how smooth the car is after clay and wax. It's almost sensual...