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Old Apr 19, 2003
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7th generation Civic's full potential.

What would the absolute full HP/TQ potential of a 7th generation Civic be if modded to the max using natural aspiration? (And without doing insane things such as removing the back seats so it's lighter).
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Try searching this guy went all out with tuning and port polishing and so on, he is even sell the package he did to his car
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dont buy the civic if you want to mod for HP ... the 1.7 ain't gonna be much without a turbo or something incredible
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1.7 isn't that bad is it? :P Didn't it go up from 1.6 from the last generation?
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This is really hard to answer, if you have $, you can do anything.

For Example

Cams, Pistons, Valves, Boring Out Block, Throttle Body, ETC.

For that amount of money, it would be worth getting a swap.
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yes it did go up from 1.6 .... but the 1.6 didn't produce much power either.
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what are u talkin about??

1.6L made tons of HP......
dont forget the SIR "G"

160HP b16a2 has alot of potential!
especially for road racing......

dont doubt the 1.7L

if HONDA was smart. they would of made it, and i bet with the hatchback they made with the new SIR, are not producing as much sales as the original coupe...

i talked to the guy at brantford HONDA anf HONDA will come back with a stronger equipped coupe!! b/c u, I and all of HONDA knows the coupe sir was the best seller!

dont doubt the 1.7L

just like someone posted..... if u have money do it up!!!
and redvic claimed 219WHP in a 1.7L non vtec motor turboed!

is that good??? and for a light *** car!!! espect to blow doors off mustangs!
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im assuming he's talking about a D16 and not the B as his sig talks about buying a '03 Si.

furthermore, he's question talks about wanting to be N/A ... and my comment was simply that not a lot of HP is to be gained with the usual mods ... unless something spectacular is done to the engine, the HP ain't moving up much
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yow yow
dont listen to these guys hahaha jk jk
if u gonna get a 7thgen to chill and drive around. then its pretty good for the amount they are asking and it looks pretty decent too.

u can always swap the engine if u want? ... turboing ... hehe.. <--lots of stress on the engine.. N/A all the way !!!!

i doubt honda will ever change the hatch into a coupe in the form of the new siR
maybe in da 8th gen...
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hehehe, I want to get my future Civic up to 180HP without a turbo/supercharger. I'm going to probably do the intake/header/exhaust thing first, then learn about what else I can do.
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Originally posted by Swift
hehehe, I want to get my future Civic up to 180HP without a turbo/supercharger. I'm going to probably do the intake/header/exhaust thing first, then learn about what else I can do.
bolt on mods and get 180HP? keep dreaming lease: lease: lease:
ask FO, Cue2K1, Andoy, TTCivic, BJai, Stillmatik23, netcbc, bluelle, stunna, cuz they all got the stuffs u listed above done and i dont think they are at the 180HP range
on turbo car, bolt on mods can jack HP up easy but NA car it is hard man
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If you're going to mod a car to the max (especially performance wise), why are you buying a new car for that purpose?

Just buy a used car, do a swap, and start building your engine to whatever you want.
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true but alot of ppl love the new design..and i think its the fact that when u get a new car, specially like a civic where everyone thinks that it is not fast cuz no one will swap a new engine in with warranty and all.

but when some one does in fact do it.. everyone just goes
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Tis possible don't give up hope brotha! Here is a set-up that will get you pretty damn near 180Whp...

-Intake
-Header
-Exhaust
-Pulleys
-High compression pistions
-Agressive Cam
-Intake manifold
-Port polish
-Greddy e-manage

And if you want to bore out the block while your changing pistons... You can achieve more Hp... Displacement=Hp...

I was planning to do my car All motor before I did my turbo set-up... My goal is to run low 1/4 mile times so I had to do forced induction. When you are building a N/a motor you need to maximize air flow and and what most people forget about N/A motors have to be tuned in order to get decent numbers... Fuel and ignition timing are key taking care of this would be the greddy e-manage. Best bang for the buck piggy-back system! And if you have V-tec you can mess around with that and you can always raise the rev limiter for additional high end Hp numbers...
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Isn't raising the rev limiter more stress to the engine?
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Originally posted by Booohahaha
true but alot of ppl love the new design..and i think its the fact that when u get a new car, specially like a civic where everyone thinks that it is not fast cuz no one will swap a new engine in with warranty and all.

but when some one does in fact do it.. everyone just goes
Like the K20A2 RSX 'S in a EP
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Yup, thank you Honda for using a D17 instead of a B16... ****heads.
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The best thing to do, is wait for the new Civic.. I have a fishy feeling a 2.0L is going to replace our underpowered 1.7L..

And SiR will be dropped.. just like Acura CL, and past Prelude... due to poor sales.

But Type-R will be in place of it.

That's my prediction anyway.
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What is this B16, D17 stuff anyway? *NOooooooob question*
Thx for those tips RedVic.
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D <--- SOHC
B<---- DOHC
K <----DOHC
B + K > D
get my point?
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Its like our school grades, A is the best,D is the worst
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Originally posted by Booohahaha
true but alot of ppl love the new design..and i think its the fact that when u get a new car, specially like a civic where everyone thinks that it is not fast cuz no one will swap a new engine in with warranty and all.

but when some one does in fact do it.. everyone just goes
For the price of a TYPE-S swap into a 7th gen civic, couldn't you have easily gotten an RSX TYPE-S? And plus you also get the warranty, and plus all the extra features that the TYPE-S has.
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i believe the TYPE S is way more heavier then our POP CAN CIVIC's
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Originally posted by Popkorn
For the price of a TYPE-S swap into a 7th gen civic, couldn't you have easily gotten an RSX TYPE-S? And plus you also get the warranty, and plus all the extra features that the TYPE-S has.
Thats true , but than thats all about modifying

BLKCIVIC ur analogy is incorrect, H and K are the best
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Originally posted by Blkcivic
Its like our school grades, A is the best,D is the worst
originally posed by AzimuthX
Thats true , but than thats all about modifying

BLKCIVIC ur analogy is incorrect, H and K are the best
S2000 Engine
naturally aspired 2.0L 16-Valve DOHC VTEC (engine code F20C)
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About the Honda S2000 F20C

Production: first year 1999, handcraft

Spec: 240hp@8300 153lb/ft@7500 torque

Engine: naturally aspired 2.0L 16-Valve DOHC VTEC (engine code F20C)

Redline: 9000 RPM

Chassis: High X-Bone Frame 4-Wheel Independent Double-Wishbone Suspension with Coil Springs (chassis code AP1)

Drive train : Front Engine Mount / Rear Wheel Drive System

Transmission: 6-Speed Manual with LSD
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Originally posted by Booohahaha
D <--- SOHC
B<---- DOHC
K <----DOHC
B + K > D
get my point?
Does B = K?
Thanks for the info!
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Originally posted by Swift
Does B = K?
Thanks for the info!
No but U = L
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I think the H22A is the best because its a powerful engine and easily installed through various generations.


H22A
200hp @ 6800
161 lb-ft @ 5500

B18C5
210hp @ 8000
134 lb-ft @ 7500

The B18 makes more horsepower than the H22A but than its at 8000rpm instead of 6800, but the H22A makes a lot more torque and earlier than the B18C5.

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why do you say the h22a is the best?
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