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Getting my G.

I'm about to get my G (well, if I pass that is) at Morningside, May 5th, 2:30pm.
Anyone got any pointers/rules that I should follow while doing my test? Anyone want to give me a free lesson? haha. Thanks

Doh, wrong forum, should be in GTA, my bad.
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I've heard that the one in Aurora was easy?

You should read this

What Skills Will I Be Tested On?
The Level 2 road test will test your ability to perform six global skills -- skills that are necessary for safe driving. The examiner will ask you to do a series of maneuvers. As you do these maneuvers, the examiner will mark you on the first five global skills listed in the coloured box at the right. To assess your observation skills, the examiner will attach a mirror to the inside of your windshield. This mirror will allow the examiner to watch your eyes and the road. The sixth skill -- hazard perception -- will be marked separately during certain parts of the road test. Read on for more information about the global skills.

1. Observation -- looking around you
As an experienced driver, you should always know what is going on around you. Keep your eyes moving. Scan well ahead and check your side and rear-view mirrors. Before you make a change in direction or road position, check your mirror and blind spot on the right or left side, depending on which direction you want to move. If you need to slow down, check your rear-view mirror. Before you back up, you need to do a 360-degree vision check to make sure your path is clear. Review Tuning Up, pages 17-18, for more information about observation skills.

Shoulder checks
Turn your head and look over your shoulder approximately 90 degrees in the direction you plan to move.

Remember to shoulder check every time you:

get out of your car
change lanes
turn, if another road user could enter your blind spot
pull over to the side of the road
pull away from the curb
approach an angle or stall parking space
Driving check
Check your mirrors regularly, paying attention to what you see in them.
Scan well ahead, turning your head slightly to the left and right as you look to the front and sides for potential hazards.
Mirror check and shoulder check when changing position or direction.
Check your rear-view mirror when slowing down or stopping.
Do a 360-degree vision check when backing up.
Be alert at all times.
2. Space Margins -- keeping space around you
You never know what other road users are going to do, so it is important to keep an area of space around your vehicle. This area is called a space margin.

A safe following distance lets you slow down and stop safely if something unexpected happens ahead. Travel at least two seconds behind the vehicle you are following when conditions are ideal. Increase this distance if you are travelling on a highway, following a motorcycle or driving in bad weather. Keep plenty of room on the sides of your vehicle -- at least one metre at city speeds and more at higher speeds. Who knows when that car door might swing open or if that cyclist will swerve to miss a bump?

If possible, keep a space on at least one side of your vehicle. Keep this space to use as an escape route if something unexpected happens and you need to pull into another lane to avoid the problem.

Think about your space margins as you stop your vehicle. Leave approximately a car length between your vehicle and the vehicle ahead of you. You will then have an escape route. If you are behind a large vehicle, leave even more space.

Lane position

On a two-lane road stay fairly close to the centre line so that other vehicles do not move into your lane space.
On the inner lanes of a multi-lane road, drive in the centre of the lane.
Avoid driving in others' blind spots.
Driving check
Maintain a safe following distance.
Maintain a safe margin between your vehicle and other road users, the side of the road, road islands and other obstacles.
Maintain good lane position.
Keep an escape route if possible.
Come to a stop in the correct position at intersections and curbs.
Accurately judge the gap when you pull across or into traffic, so other road users don't have to slow down for you.
3. Speed Control -- keeping the right speed
An experienced driver maintains a safe speed, one that keeps up with the flow of traffic and is within the posted speed limit. A smart driver also slows down when faced with conditions such as rain, fog, snow, rough roads, night driving or children playing near the road. Your speed should be even -- avoid slowing down or speeding up unnecessarily.

Practise your braking skills. Make sure you decelerate smoothly, cover the brake when it looks as if you might need to stop and keep the brake fully applied when you are stopped. Don't stop unnecessarily; it may confuse other drivers or riders. Be certain your parking brake is fully engaged when you are parked and fully disengaged when your vehicle is moving.

Driving with a standard transmission

If you are driving a vehicle with a standard transmission, you need to be able to choose the appropriate gear and shift smoothly. Release the clutch smoothly when starting off. Don't coast in neutral or with your foot on the clutch. Apply the clutch only to change gears or just before stopping. will take extra care.

Driving check
Maintain appropriate speeds.
Choose the appropriate gear and change gears smoothly.
Accelerate and decelerate smoothly.
Apply your brakes smoothly and safely.
Use the parking brake correctly.
4. Steering -- moving smoothly
The key to good steering is smoothness, whether you are maintaining your lane position, turning in a smooth arc, or keeping a steady line as you back up. Reduce side-to-side movement and make sure your turns are gentle and smooth.

Driving check
Keep both hands on the wheel when possible.
Avoid turning the wheel with only the palm of your hand.
Steer smoothly.
Keep your arm off the windowsill or armrest.
5. Communication -- sending and receiving signals
To share the road safely with other road users, you need to be able to communicate clearly. Watch for communication from others -- brake lights, turn signals, eye contact. Observe the clues other drivers give you. If a driver moves to the right, what does that tell you? Is that driver preparing to change lanes or turn?

Make sure you give clear signals to others. Always signal well in advance if you are about to change road position but keep in mind that if you signal too early -- or if you signal unnecessarily -- you may confuse other road users. Be aware of what your turn signal is doing. Has it cancelled too early, before you've actually made the turn or lane change? Make sure you re-apply it. Did it fail to cancel after you made your turn? Cancel it as soon as you complete the maneuver. See page 73 of Tuning Up and page 24 of the Safe Driving Guide for suggestions about good communication.

Driving check
Use turn signals clearly.
Use hand signals if necessary to ensure that your signal is seen.
Use your horn if necessary for safety.
Watch for communication from other road users.
6. Hazard Perception -- reading the driving environment
Hazard perception is being able to identify things in the driving situation that could cause harm. For instance, a cyclist on the right side of your lane is a hazard. An alert driver will be quick to identify this situation as hazardous and will take extra care.

How will my hazard perception be tested?
At certain points during the test, the examiner will ask you to name the hazards you see. Identify all hazards that are within one block in front of you, immediately beside you and behind you. As soon as you see a hazard, say a few words to describe what you see. You might say, for example, pothole, truck turning left or car pulling out. Identify all the real hazards that you see, including yellow or orange signs that warn of danger or construction zones. Don't list things that are not really hazards, such as light poles or trees that do not block your vision. Identify all hazards by saying them out loud in English. If you don't know the English word for the hazard, you may briefly point at it.

What are hazards?
There are four types of hazards to watch for:

Space Grabbers -- Anything that could move into your space is a hazard. An example is a driver quickly moving into a merge lane just in front of you. That driver wants to move into the space you expect to use.
Surprises -- Be extra cautious when you are faced with unpredictable elements. Children playing on the side of the street could unexpectedly dash out in front of you. Conditions like wind or turbulence are unpredictable because you don't know exactly how your vehicle will respond.
Vision Blockers -- Anything that obstructs your vision of other road users is a hazard. A large truck can hide animals or children who might enter your path.
Poor Road Conditions -- Poor road surfaces can affect your traction and steering. For example, loose gravel or ice could cause you to lose control.
Some typical hazards
Space Grabbers
vehicle pulling into your path
vehicle that may turn left in front of you
vehicle approaching very quickly from behind
cyclist with a small amount of room
pedestrian who may want to cross the road
Vision Blockers
vehicle or object that blocks your vision
curve or hill that blocks vision
blind spot hiding vehicle
bus letting off passengers who may cross your path
weather conditions that restrict your vision (fog, rain or snow)

Surprises
driver being unpredictable or speeding
young children near the road
unleashed animal near the road
large oncoming vehicle that may create turbulence
construction zone
warning sign
Poor Road Conditions
loose gravel
wet leaves
rough pavement
wet or icy section
pothole


How can I practise hazard perception?
Work with a friend. Drive in a quiet area naming out loud any road users or situations you see ahead, beside or behind you that could be dangerous. Ask your friend to write down the words you say and put a checkmark beside the word if they agree or an X if they disagree. Ask them to write down any hazards you miss. After a few blocks, pull over to the side and talk about your answers.

To check your answers, ask yourself: Which of these are real hazards? Which are not? Decide if the thing you named was a space grabber, a surprise, a vision blocker or a poor road condition.

Keep doing this process, moving into more difficult driving environments, until you feel comfortable seeing and identifying hazards. Make sure you practise hazard perception at different kinds of intersections. Intersections are often dangerous because of the many hazards they may contain.

Worried about hazard perception?
Before you start the hazard perception part of the test, the examiner will give several examples of how to identify hazards. You are not required to give a lengthy description of a hazard. In fact, you can identify hazards with one or two words. You may want to use the Handy Words list to help you prepare for the test.

If you are worried about your English, consider translating the words for your first practice sessions and then start using the English words in later practices. Remember, you may point if you can't think of the right word.

Handy Words
Car
Pedestrian
Bicycle
Animal
Truck
Construction
Motorcyclist
Slippery road Bus
Bump
Children
Emergency vehicle
Curve
Hill
Dangerous driver
Warning sign Ice
Can't see
Blind spot
Turning right
Turning left
Pulling out
Snow
Rough pavement

What Maneuvers Will I Be Tested On?
In the Level 2 road test the examiner will direct you through a route that includes different driving environments. Along the way, you will be asked to perform several different maneuvers. In each maneuver, the examiner will mark how well you observe, maintain space margins, control your speed, steer and communicate.

Two of the maneuvers -- three-point turns and reverse stall parking -- must be performed within a reasonable time limit.

1. Intersections: driving through, turning right, turning left
The test route will include different types of intersections -- multi-lane intersections controlled by traffic lights, intersections controlled by stop signs and uncontrolled intersections. As you approach each intersection, the examiner may direct you to turn right or left. If the examiner doesn't tell you to turn, continue straight ahead as long as it is safe.

Intersection tips
Observation

Stop just before the stop line, crosswalk or intersection. After you have stopped, if your view is blocked, you may need to creep slowly ahead to see properly.
Before you proceed:
scan the entire intersection from left to right
check both crosswalks you will drive through
check to the left one more time before you go
Space Margins

Turns
If you're turning right and the light is red, stop, wait for a safe gap and turn when it is safe.
If yours is the first vehicle waiting to turn left on a green light, stop about one-quarter of the way into the intersection. Leave enough room so that your vehicle and an approaching vehicle can both turn smoothly. If your vehicle is the second in line, don't move into the intersection unless you can get the front of your vehicle well beyond the crosswalk, so that drivers in crossing vehicles can see you. Remember to maintain a safe following distance.
Stops
When waiting at a railway crossing, stop at the stop line or at least five metres from the nearest rail.
Steering
Keep your wheels straight while you're waiting to turn.
Read Tuning Up for more information about intersections (pages 69-70), right turns (pages 28-29, 75-76) and left turns (pages 33-34, 80-81).

2. Changing lanes
Remember to observe, signal and choose a safe gap when you change lanes. Make sure you can complete the lane change well ahead of any intersections, crosswalks, hills or curves. To review lane changes, see Tuning Up, pages 74-75.

3. Entering or exiting a highway or freeway
Use precise observation and judgment skills whenever you enter a highway or freeway. You need to make quick decisions about how fast other vehicles are travelling and which gap is safe to move into. You also need to adjust your speed in the acceleration lane so that you can easily merge with the highway or freeway traffic.

Plan your exit so you can make the required lane changes safely. Review Tuning Up, pages 94-95, for practice information.

4. Making three-point turns
You need to observe constantly and be aware of space margins and steering when making a three-point turn. Before you start, make sure that you are in a location where you are visible to other road users and not close to traffic, pedestrians or intersections. Signal as you pull to the right side of the road. Position your vehicle so that it will stay clear of curbs or road edges. Keep at least 45 centimetres from other vehicles or objects. You should back up only once. For information to help you improve your three-point turns, review pages 55-56 of Tuning Up.

5. Reverse stall parking
Remember to observe carefully and pay attention to space margins and steering when you back into a parking stall. Before you move backward, do a 360-degree vision check. Set up your backing position so that other vehicles can't move in behind you as you are backing in. If you are parking between two cars, you may need to start from an angle of about 45 degrees. Move into the centre of the stall and keep going until your vehicle is completely in the stall and out of traffic. When you're ready to move out of the stall, signal, then check whether it is safe by doing a mirror check and shoulder check in the direction you are planning to go. Refer to Tuning Up, pages 49-50, for more information.

6. General driving
General driving covers all the driving you do between intersections. It includes straight driving, hills and curves (Tuning Up, page 44), highway and freeway driving (Tuning Up, pages 93-95).

How Can I Get the Most from the Feedback Session?
At the end of your road test the examiner will spend 10 to 15 minutes explaining the results of your test. This can be a useful time for you. You can discuss the positive aspects of your driving and learn how to improve specific driving skills or maneuvers. Whether or not you pass your exam, there will be things you can learn to help you keep safe on the road.

If you are not successful, the examiner will give you pointers on how to prepare for your next test. You can take it after seven days. If you are not successful again, you must wait 14 days

Feedback Tip
If you are uncomfortable speaking English, bring someone who can translate for you during the feedback session. However, during the road test, only you and the examiner can be in the vehicle.

How Can I Prepare for the Test?
You may feel that you need to brush up on your driving skills before taking the Level 2 Road test. Do you know the signs, rules and regulations? Are your driving maneuvers smooth, safe and performed correctly? Can you perceive hazards accurately? You might decide to take a refresher course at a driving school to polish your driving skills. Review Tuning Up and the Safe Driving Guide and use them as you practise. New drivers receive a free copy of Tuning Up when they enter the Graduated Licensing Program. Additional copies are available at your nearest ICBC driver licensing office for a $5 fee. Copies of the Safe Driving Guide are available free of charge at all ICBC licensing offices.

Reminders

Book your appointment by phoning the ICBC driver licensing office nearest you or by going into the office and booking an appointment in person. (If you live in the Lower Mainland, phone the central booking number: 661-2255.)
The test will take about an hour, including the feedback session, and you should plan to arrive at least 10 minutes early.
Bring your Class 7 licence and a piece of valid identification. (See the Safe Driving Guide, page 68.)
Your vehicle must meet safety standards and be properly insured in order for you to take the test.
Bring your vehicle registration and test fee with you.
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AzimuthX, pass your G2.

that wasnt an advice nor a pointer to help him.
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Whats wrong with the post I just made. It describes the full Level 2 Road Test and what is being tested so that he can improve on areas he lacks in. I was just trying to be helpful
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i know you were, but those are just really really basic stuff you should have known even for G2, not to mention a long read.

for G, it's all about breaking bad habits.

as long as he-->

- hands on 10-2
- turn head to turn
- obey speed limit
- stay on the right

he will pass.
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You forgot complete stop... many just roll and go.
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i took it at morningside, and it was get on the highway, pass to the left, pass back to the right...get off the highway...

then go to the business area, do a 3-point turn, do and emergency stop, do a parallel and then go back to the MTO parking lot (head in)

yeah, it was easy...i ran a yellow and the guy wasn't even looking. he was just looking at what a wonderful day it was outside...

pointers...make ur mirror checks very obvious...bob your head up and down.

stop sign...bob your head left, centre, right and centre again and then go when it's ur turn...

at intersections, keep surveying the road..look left and right...

MAKE THINGS OBVIOUS!!
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to you all!
haha, I love that little guy
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Originally posted by babychai
i took it at morningside, and it was get on the highway, pass to the left, pass back to the right...get off the highway...

then go to the business area, do a 3-point turn, do and emergency stop, do a parallel and then go back to the MTO parking lot (head in)
Yoyoyo, for the highway thing, how does it work exactly? I go on, then go left 1,2,3? lanes?
What do you do for the emergency stop?

As you can tell I have no real training :P... heh
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i only went left 1 lane and then back over....

emergency stop....you hit the hazard lights, pull over to the side, park and handbrake.

remember to signal and check your blind spot when pulling out after you done this...
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babychai, thanx!
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Originally posted by Swift
babychai, thanx!
np, but of course, if they ask you to move over twice to the left, you still have to...
so good luck on ur exam!!
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lolz! go head go! nearly broke my neck making all them head movements obvious

maaan i gotta book my G test sometime (darn MTO pushed down my G in vancouver, which was the class5 to a G2 here! grrrr)... i might also take some formal training so i can use the student corolla car heheh
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take your 7thgen, and if its modded thats even better,
i took mines just to see if i can pass with it, i redlined on the entry highway to get to 100, thats important, getting to a 100km/h not redline, anyways should be easy if you took driving school
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Originally posted by watewate
AzimuthX, pass your G2.

that wasnt an advice nor a pointer to help him.
yea that was kinda long, good try, maybe cliff note it
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Took it at Vic Park and Lawrence. The expert testing centre =)
pretty hard.

Morning side. From what i've heard. VERY EASY.. . shouldn't be a prob.
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Originally posted by netcbc
take your 7thgen, and if its modded thats even better,
i took mines just to see if i can pass with it, i redlined on the entry highway to get to 100, thats important, getting to a 100km/h not redline, anyways should be easy if you took driving school
it's kinda hard to keep the rpms low on a civic man (especailly an auto)! hehe... the intake and exhaust noise will totally **** off the tester!
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I've heard people almost failing because accelerating too slow on the highway. Make sure to do it adequetly... probably 3000-3500rpm
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Or try Aurora ... I got my G there ...
very good examiner ... I didn't have to do the highway to get my G !!
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Originally posted by AzimuthX
I've heard people almost failing because accelerating too slow on the highway. Make sure to do it adequetly... probably 3000-3500rpm
hahaha.. really? im planning to bring my car to the test but i think 3500RPM is too slow of an acceleration..(its gonna be too loud (exhaust))!!
hmmm...... k.. when getting off.. do i have to break like a **** to meet the speed standard? or do i gradually slow down?
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hahaha, I think I'm just going to use an auto car, probably the instructors. It's probably easier to pass with auto, unless you own at stick.
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Originally posted by AzimuthX
I've heard people almost failing because accelerating too slow on the highway. Make sure to do it adequetly... probably 3000-3500rpm
you havent driven civic, have you.

civics need to be revved much higher to merger into speeding highway.
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Originally posted by txtadik
it's kinda hard to keep the rpms low on a civic man (especailly an auto)! hehe... the intake and exhaust noise will totally **** off the tester!
hah thats what i thought but i just wanted to prove all those ppl wrong who get all scared and stuff to bring a modded car to a driving test, if your driving skill is good meaning following all the rules, should be fine
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good luck

whne you get your g.. your gonna forget everything you learned in driving class hehe..
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Originally posted by FlippedOut
good luck

whne you get your g.. your gonna forget everything you learned in driving class hehe..

Heh, I never took driving class. I went to this Chinese place, they let me skip and everything, I got my cert cuz I paid haha.
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Originally posted by Swift
Heh, I never took driving class. I went to this Chinese place, they let me skip and everything, I got my cert cuz I paid haha.
where is this place?! i gotta get a cert to make my insurance cheaper!
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Originally posted by txtadik
where is this place?! i gotta get a cert to make my insurance cheaper!
I don't remember exactly where it was, I think it was Finch and Midland(?). It's called Kowloon, I'm not sure if they scam anymore haha.
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Re: Getting my G.

hey homie question if you could g?
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