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Old Jan 27, 2002
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i have a question

i have neuspeed race springs on wit ma stock shocks, sumbody told me that its not good n its pretty dangerous ta buy springs witout tha shocks........they said that it'llma ur wheel go out wards like this -----> / \ is that true.....i looked at ma car afterwards n it did kinda look like it, they said there is no proper way ta lower tha car yet
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you can have aftermarket/performance springs fine without needing to buy shocks as well, most people don't...

what you need to do is go out and get a camber kit to fix your problem...thats all...
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thats what happens when ur dropped like 2 inches or more. u need a camber kit!
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how much does a camber kit cost?
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linsook .. dont worry... you didnt drop more than 2 inches so you dont need a cambar kit
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you don't necessarily have to be dropped greater than 2 inches to have a camber problem...

but you should be able to tell if you do just by looking usually...

and as far as pricing goes, the ones for the fronts are fairly cheap but the backs'll cost you...exact pricing..?

couldn't tell you right at this moment...
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well thats why i didnt get race springs lolz
but yea they sell em by the set. u might want to see eibach about them
they have a camber kit thats listed in the parts forum just to give u a pricing about them!
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You only require camber alignment if the wheel(s) become angled off more than 2 degrees.

Depending on the extremity of the angle, a camber kit "could" cost anywhere from like $50 to $200 roughly.

The major downside to angled wheels is fast and uneven tire wear otherwise, note much else...well looks a bit stupid when you have major camber problems.
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yea ma car is dropped a bit ova 2 inch......yea i wanna fix ma camber prob can someone please list a price n a place
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especially for a sunday after 6...

I don't think so...

why don't you call up a couple places tomorrow then..?
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kekeke...wait another two or three hours, u can call HK...It's Monday morning there already.
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i wanna know roughly how much they cost out there i don't wanna get ripped off........n can sumbody post a pic of it i'm totally losted, i don't even know how this thing looks like
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front:


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thankz.....does it replace anything, or does it just add on??
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thats looks like something we can make ourselves!!!
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the front replaces the strut to spindle mounting bolt

the rear replaces the factory upper rear link
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i mite jjust get tha back first....not really sure if i need tha front, still no prices yet hey
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ugh...fine...

front'll cost you around $30 US each...

rear'll cost you around $100 US each...
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hahahaha.....thankz alot draven, one more question do u know a good place for me ta get it n get it installed?
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can i also solve tha prob by gettin new shocks......if so i rather do that cuz i'm plannin on gettin new shocks anyways
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linsook I don't know any shops in your area well enough to suggest one...

but I think that you'd still have to look into the camber kit even if you get shocks...
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yea i tink draven is right
if u gotten coilover's off the beginning it would have been easier and less costly in the long run!
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i don't understand....so if i get coilovers now will it solve all ma probs?
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not necessarily...
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sorry i'm really lost, does that mean i screwed it up maself??
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no...it just means that you need a camber kit...

theres no other way around it, people that get coilover kits may or may not need camber kits as well...

it depends somewhat on the height of the vehicle but some of it is just dumb luck...
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What is camber?

Camber is the inward or outward tilt of the tire/wheel assembly. This angle is measured from a true vertical line, i.e. perpendicular to the ground. A tire/wheel assembly that is tilted outward at the top is considered to have Positive camber. While a tire/wheel assembly tilted inward at the top, displays Negative camber. For a zero setting, the tire/wheel assembly is in the exact vertical position or perpendicular to the ground.

How far can I lower my car before I need to adjust camber?

ANY amount of ride height change will cause camber and toe to change. It might not always be visible but having your camber out of adjustment will cause the tire to run on the inside edge only. The lower you go the more negative camber you will get and the faster the tire will wear. Toe will also be affected. Having your toe out of specifications will wear tires and make the car handle unfavorably.

Will LARGER diameter wheels change my camber?

Wheel diameter does not change camber. Changing the diameter of the wheel doesn't change any suspension geometry and will not affect camber.

How does camber affect my tires?

Camber outside or to the extreme limits of the specification will cause tire wear on the inside or outside of the tires. Unequal camber can cause your car to pull to one side.

Why are the inside of my tires going bald?

Negative camber or too much toe-out can cause inside tire wear. Add a low air pressure to the tires and you get an extreme tire wear very quickly.

What effect does ride height have on alignments?

Ride height is the second most neglected part of wheel alignment. Camber is directly affected by the ride height. A perfect example is the lowered Hondas that are so popular now. A drop of just 1-inch on the double wishbone suspension moves camber negative .84 degree.

--FAQS provided by Ingalls.

which also happens to be the the manufacturer of the ones draven posted. You're looking at $35US per side for the fronts and $100US per side for the rears.
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there you have it...the definitive answer...

hey you guys realized we've actually stayed on topic so far..?
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geezez CB
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i wouldnt sit and type all dat
and its very well organized!!!
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See...I can help when called upon. I just have to make in major corrupting after I do something like that!
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