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Old Jun 3, 2004
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Originally Posted by iamfob
i suggest Kumho 712 for best bang of the buck. although they are not the greatest tire for track or autoX but good enough for everyday driving and cna't beat the price and thread wear (320)

as for hardcore track and auto X ppl, get RA1 or A032R if u can afford it, they really worth it cuz i was in my friends' car with those tires and they kick *** in Shannonville

the Falken are relatively heavier tires than Kumho from my research and understanding

good luck with the selections

the flaken's are heavier then the kumho 712's?? .... OH CRAP.....

how much do the ra1 or a032r go for???

if you're ever going to go to the track.. stay away from the kumho 712... it'll take about 25% of your tread... depending on how hard you drive it
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i do not recommend 712 for track....they over heat too much....and scream like a biatch in the turns.....i think I did a lot better on my FM901s than guys on their 712s...

205 50 15 A032R is $170/tire

falken azenis is a good tire also....
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Old Jun 4, 2004
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170 a tire? that's why out of my current budget.

i actually did pretty good on my 712 at the track.. just that it took quite a bit of tread life off of it.

keep up with a few decent cars.. and stay ahead of them as well.
might i add.. my car was the slowest amongs the cars that was there.
but it all comes down to the driver as well....

i'll prolly go with the flaken azenis... anybody know how much they weigh off the top of their heads?

i know the kumho's 712 weigh at about 21.5lbs each... or am i thinking of a different tire.. nonetheless.. that's heavy;.
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falken azenis: 22.6lbs 205/50/15
kumho 712: 20lbs 205/50/15
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Originally Posted by macrossranma
falken azenis: 22.6lbs 205/50/15
kumho 712: 20lbs 205/50/15

well, now the question comes down to tread life.......
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falken azenis: 200 threadwear
kumho 712: 280 or 340 depends on which rating u get
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i dont know what those numbers exactly mean...
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another question:

if i go with 205/50/15 tires on 15in rims....

will that mean that i wouldnt be able to use my rpm to the fullest extent....
in other words... b/c of the speed difference.....

anybody know whta i mean?
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andy: the higher number of tread wear, the longer the tire will last

and you can still redline even you have 15s (dont know if i answer your question)

i am not a big fans of Falken, if i go all out then either Yoko or Toyo or Bridgestone for me. but if i have a tight budget i would go with Kumho and Wanli

as for Auto X you will be fine with 712 but in circuit track i highly recommended sticky R compound tire if u can afford it

but overall 712 is a great tire in my book, i also try the Kumho 711 and they are not bad considering they are H rated tires but i will definitely go with 712 or MX in the long run
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i guess the azenis wont last as long as the 712.............

now i have to make a decision... azenis or 712's again



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n/m.. i just checked the tire calculator

my stock tires were 185/65/15 i believe....

if i were to run on 205/50/15... there would be about 6% difference on the speedometer.... 6% too fast.

i guess by running on the 205/50/15.. it'll add more km's to my speedometer... which is what i really dont want.......

when my speedometer say's that im going 53km/r... im actually going about 50km/h... and by these calculations... i am not able to use my shifting to it's full advantage........
anybody know what im talking about yet? haha

well, correct me if im wrong

thanks

correct me if im wrong here
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Originally Posted by SiRB16
macrossranma: i think the ratio is 1:10 for your unsprung weight question.

1lb of unsprung = 10lb of sprung

Majority of the people will run the RA1s to when there are only 4 lines showing and the side water evacuation lines are gone and then direction no longer matters. The performance doesn't matter between the directions at this point.

I just got my RA1s. But a friend of mine, I think he went through about 13-16 lapping days. It depends on your driving and other conditions.

what do you mean when you say that your friend went through 13 - 16 lapping days.....? are you referring to the ra1 tires?
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Originally Posted by macrossranma
i say for the budget and best performance, get the 6thgen sir rim + falken azenis or kumho mx, best tires for autox, will icq you soon, might know a place that can get the toyo t1s very cheap, but forgot where i put the ph#

or

if u can spend around 200 more, get new rota rims + tires, or get second hand if u can find it
when you say falken azenis..are you referring to st-115 tires or the azenis sport tires??
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n/m... just noticed that you can only refer to the sport tires
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Originally Posted by AznSaint
n/m.. i just checked the tire calculator

my stock tires were 185/65/15 i believe....

if i were to run on 205/50/15... there would be about 6% difference on the speedometer.... 6% too fast.

i guess by running on the 205/50/15.. it'll add more km's to my speedometer... which is what i really dont want.......

when my speedometer say's that im going 53km/r... im actually going about 50km/h... and by these calculations... i am not able to use my shifting to it's full advantage........
anybody know what im talking about yet? haha

well, correct me if im wrong

thanks

correct me if im wrong here
i dont know if i am right or wrong so dont quote me on this ok?
this is my logic/thinking....

yes if u go from 185/65R15 to 205/50R15 your speed is off and faster by 6% but the distance u are travelling is the same regardless so i dont think the mileage will go up (increase) faster than the 185/65R15 tires, get what i am trying to say?

cole notes: i think the speed of the car is off (reading on the speedo) but the actual mileage u travel will be the same
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"the actual mileage you travel will be the same"

yes, that is true.. but the mileage on the speedometer will not be the same
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Great info guys!
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