Attn: 01/02 civics with bogging noises in rain and snow.
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Attn: 01/02 civics with bogging noises in rain and snow. I think I've found the problem to this rattling. I got my buddy to check out my car when it was raining one day and he heard the awful bogging noise under the shifter and passenger seat. He works at honda and asked his forman. He later got back to me and told me that their was a problem with the catalytic converter with civics in the year 2001 and 2002. The warranty for this part is only 
60,000km or 3 years(exhaust system) so those who have kilometers close to that may want to go back to the dealer and get it replaced even if you do not hear the noise(If possible). I began hearing the noise around the 60,000km and the actually price to replace the part is over 1000dollars Canadian. I can't believe it's not even a recall or anything, but only a service bulletin. Looks like I won't be driving the car in the rain or snow. I'm gonna try to go to a custom exhaust shop and get them to custom part of the pipe. Oh yeah the new 03 civics seem not to have this problem and the part that they replace is the 03 one. Hope that helps.
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Hey guys just confirmed from my friend at honda that the bogging noise is actually the b-pipe resignating and not the catalytic converter. The thing is the b-pipe is welded to the cat and if you change the b-pipe obviously your also going to change the cat and vice-versa. The stupid thing is that the b-pipe is only warranted for 60,000km or 3 years and the cat 130,000km or 8 years. Anyways just to inform everyone, sorry about the mix up. Still going to yell at honda because I brought in my car before the 60,000km and they couldn't find the problem. As for my friend working at honda, he tells me it's a newly released service bulliten. Will keep everyone informed as I'm trying to get honda to replace mine.
60,000km or 3 years(exhaust system) so those who have kilometers close to that may want to go back to the dealer and get it replaced even if you do not hear the noise(If possible). I began hearing the noise around the 60,000km and the actually price to replace the part is over 1000dollars Canadian. I can't believe it's not even a recall or anything, but only a service bulletin. Looks like I won't be driving the car in the rain or snow. I'm gonna try to go to a custom exhaust shop and get them to custom part of the pipe. Oh yeah the new 03 civics seem not to have this problem and the part that they replace is the 03 one. Hope that helps.edit:
Hey guys just confirmed from my friend at honda that the bogging noise is actually the b-pipe resignating and not the catalytic converter. The thing is the b-pipe is welded to the cat and if you change the b-pipe obviously your also going to change the cat and vice-versa. The stupid thing is that the b-pipe is only warranted for 60,000km or 3 years and the cat 130,000km or 8 years. Anyways just to inform everyone, sorry about the mix up. Still going to yell at honda because I brought in my car before the 60,000km and they couldn't find the problem. As for my friend working at honda, he tells me it's a newly released service bulliten. Will keep everyone informed as I'm trying to get honda to replace mine.
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I think I've found the problem to this rattling. I got my buddy to check out my car when it was raining one day and he heard the awful bogging noise under the shifter and passenger seat. He works at honda and asked his forman. He later got back to me and told me that their was a problem with the catalytic converter with civics in the year 2001 and 2002. The warranty for this part is only 60,000km or 3 years(exhaust system) so those who have kilometers close to that may want to go back to the dealer and get it replaced even if you do not hear the noise(If possible). I began hearing the noise around the 60,000km and the actually price to replace the part is over 1000dollars Canadian. I can't believe it's not even a recall or anything, but only a service bulletin. Looks like I won't be driving the car in the rain or snow. I'm gonna try to go to a custom exhaust shop and get them to custom part of the pipe. Oh yeah the new 03 civics seem not to have this problem and the part that they replace is the 03 one. Hope that helps.
I think I've found the problem to this rattling. I got my buddy to check out my car when it was raining one day and he heard the awful bogging noise under the shifter and passenger seat. He works at honda and asked his forman. He later got back to me and told me that their was a problem with the catalytic converter with civics in the year 2001 and 2002. The warranty for this part is only
60,000km or 3 years(exhaust system) so those who have kilometers close to that may want to go back to the dealer and get it replaced even if you do not hear the noise(If possible). I began hearing the noise around the 60,000km and the actually price to replace the part is over 1000dollars Canadian. I can't believe it's not even a recall or anything, but only a service bulletin. Looks like I won't be driving the car in the rain or snow. I'm gonna try to go to a custom exhaust shop and get them to custom part of the pipe. Oh yeah the new 03 civics seem not to have this problem and the part that they replace is the 03 one. Hope that helps. when your friend said there was a problem with the cat, what exactly did he mean? is there a problem with the converter's performance or that it just makes undesirable noise in the rain and snow?
i have a full magnaflow cat back exhaust system on my car. does this void my exhaust warranty?
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Rep Power: 0 i have a 2k2 coupe and i've noticed the problem since around 5000 km...(i'm now at 15500 km)
when there is snow or rain, i feel this rattling thing underneath my hand brake...i think i did read about this fix, but i was too lazy to do it...next time
when there is snow or rain, i feel this rattling thing underneath my hand brake...i think i did read about this fix, but i was too lazy to do it...next time
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by babychai
i have a 2k2 coupe and i've noticed the problem since around 5000 km...(i'm now at 15500 km)
when there is snow or rain, i feel this rattling thing underneath my hand brake...i think i did read about this fix, but i was too lazy to do it...next time
i have a 2k2 coupe and i've noticed the problem since around 5000 km...(i'm now at 15500 km)
when there is snow or rain, i feel this rattling thing underneath my hand brake...i think i did read about this fix, but i was too lazy to do it...next time
damn u sure dont drive much babychai i have an 2k3 and have a little less km than u
when i heard that noise for the first time i freakin out i thaugt i broke my cat or somethin, brought it to the garage the next day for a checkup and they said cat is fine they thaught it was the cat hitting on somethin
thanx for the hint ill sure replace it be4 hitting 60000 km
oh yeah and will it void the warranty because of the cat back???
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Rep Power: 0 Not sure if an after market exhaust will void the warranty because dealerships vary, but my buddy says the cat is one entire piece and a part of that piping on the cat is hittting the bottom of the car. I'm gonna bring it in next week and get him to take a look at it to find out exactly which part is hitting. I'm surprised that it's effectting the 03 civic's as well. I'm getting my front struts replaced because I'm pretty sure their leaking, the honda I went to wil change them for me even though I have after market springs, but I'd rather fix the stupid bogging first.
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Rep Power: 0 i have a 2k2 sedan, so the exhaust is different from the si...... but i've narrowed my problems down to my catback's midpipe hanging too low...... since my cat is on the exhaust manifold, the midpipe basically runs from the front of the car to the back and i've found that in the rain if i have my wheels turned to the right at close to full lock and moving, i get the rattle....... reason being, the water that is being kicked up by the tires hit the midpipe around the front sway and the cooling of the hot pipe makes it vibrate and hit the sway bar...... i've tried this when washing my car and that's how i've drawn my conclusions....... but with the stock exhaust, i've never had a problem with the rattling..... probably cuz there was a heat sheild there that protected it from the water and snow..... i'm going to get a new midpipe bent up to have it tucked up a bit more and let's hope my problems go away... heheee...
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i have a 2k2 sedan, so the exhaust is different from the si...... but i've narrowed my problems down to my catback's midpipe hanging too low...... since my cat is on the exhaust manifold, the midpipe basically runs from the front of the car to the back and i've found that in the rain if i have my wheels turned to the right at close to full lock and moving, i get the rattle....... reason being, the water that is being kicked up by the tires hit the midpipe around the front sway and the cooling of the hot pipe makes it vibrate and hit the sway bar...... i've tried this when washing my car and that's how i've drawn my conclusions....... but with the stock exhaust, i've never had a problem with the rattling..... probably cuz there was a heat sheild there that protected it from the water and snow..... i'm going to get a new midpipe bent up to have it tucked up a bit more and let's hope my problems go away... heheee...
i have a 2k2 sedan, so the exhaust is different from the si...... but i've narrowed my problems down to my catback's midpipe hanging too low...... since my cat is on the exhaust manifold, the midpipe basically runs from the front of the car to the back and i've found that in the rain if i have my wheels turned to the right at close to full lock and moving, i get the rattle....... reason being, the water that is being kicked up by the tires hit the midpipe around the front sway and the cooling of the hot pipe makes it vibrate and hit the sway bar...... i've tried this when washing my car and that's how i've drawn my conclusions....... but with the stock exhaust, i've never had a problem with the rattling..... probably cuz there was a heat sheild there that protected it from the water and snow..... i'm going to get a new midpipe bent up to have it tucked up a bit more and let's hope my problems go away... heheee...
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Rep Power: 0 the dang midpipe i have now is hanging way too low..... not too much play in it so i can't really pull it up.... stupid straight-as-possible design..... i was thinking about getting a heat sheild put it, but then i'll probably be scraping more speed bumps and curbs..... heehee...... the first tiem i actually noticed this was trying to cross a barrier of snow that was around a foot deep... heehee..... ons the snow touched the pipe, dang, i thought my whole exhaust system fell off... heehee
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Rep Power: 0 I current am on 104,000km... and I've had the problem since day 1. I gave up on trying to fix it, because nobody knows what the hell I am talking about at the dealerships.
I had the cat conv replaced under warrenty at 92,000km (the coverage is 120,000km 8 years, by the way), because my check engine light kept on coming up.
After I replaced the part, I had noticed that my car found some lost power over time... but it hasn't fixed the bogging down noise in rain/snow. I'm not quite sure if this is the problem... and if it is, I don't think the new part helps at all.
I had the cat conv replaced under warrenty at 92,000km (the coverage is 120,000km 8 years, by the way), because my check engine light kept on coming up.
After I replaced the part, I had noticed that my car found some lost power over time... but it hasn't fixed the bogging down noise in rain/snow. I'm not quite sure if this is the problem... and if it is, I don't think the new part helps at all.
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Rep Power: 0 i had this noise and they loooked at it and they said they couldnt determine the problem. that is so gay that they only warranty it to 60000km and never recalled it. If that is the problem my warranty is done. I gave 75000km on my car and its a 2001. I wonder what they will do., im gonna go and get it looked at
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Rep Power: 0 seriously this problem has been going on forever, its true, you bring it to mechanics, they don't know what you are takling about, its espicially bad when ur driving a chick and they're like "wtf is that?"
by urself you can handle it, but driving someone else, u just look retarded.... soup up the car to make it rattle likes its about to die
by urself you can handle it, but driving someone else, u just look retarded.... soup up the car to make it rattle likes its about to die
i took my car to the dixie dealership today for an oil change. i got the mechanic to look at my catalytic converter at the same time and he said it was running fine. i told him about the noise in the rain and the only solution that he could come up with was for me to go back to the exhaust shop that installed my exhaust and have them look at the mid pipe. however, he also said leaving it the way it is should be fine.
i guess it's not really a problem afterall. if the noise bothers you i suggest turning up the music. i usually have my music on so loud it's hard to hear anything but the music. if you guys had not mentioned this bogging noise on the site i would never have known about it.
i guess it's not really a problem afterall. if the noise bothers you i suggest turning up the music. i usually have my music on so loud it's hard to hear anything but the music. if you guys had not mentioned this bogging noise on the site i would never have known about it.
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Rep Power: 0 Just came back from the dealership and got my front stuts replaced. My cars got almost 80km on it with neuspeed springs and they still replaced them. The guy told me they where leaking pretty bad. I'd recommend changing them asap, because now my ride drives so much better now. I went to pickering honda for the strut change and all under warrenty. I wil try to go back to formula honda where I bought my car and complain about the cat and bogging noise again. My friend at pickering honda who is a mechanic there just changed one on a 2001 coupe with 30km on it and told me to bitch at formula honda even though I surpassed the 60km warrenty. The stupid cat costs over 1000dollars if you buy it yourself. Will keep everyone updated.
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Rep Power: 0 i'm actually starting to think that my cat is clogging... heehe..... or i'm firing elements from the cat into the muffler...... i've been backfiring a few times and i can hear things clinking through my exhuast pipes... heehee..... guess it's time to get the cat looked at or just get a high flow cat......
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Just came back from the dealership and got my front stuts replaced. My cars got almost 80km on it with neuspeed springs and they still replaced them. The guy told me they where leaking pretty bad. I'd recommend changing them asap, because now my ride drives so much better now. I went to pickering honda for the strut change and all under warrenty. I wil try to go back to formula honda where I bought my car and complain about the cat and bogging noise again. My friend at pickering honda who is a mechanic there just changed one on a 2001 coupe with 30km on it and told me to bitch at formula honda even though I surpassed the 60km warrenty. The stupid cat costs over 1000dollars if you buy it yourself. Will keep everyone updated.
Just came back from the dealership and got my front stuts replaced. My cars got almost 80km on it with neuspeed springs and they still replaced them. The guy told me they where leaking pretty bad. I'd recommend changing them asap, because now my ride drives so much better now. I went to pickering honda for the strut change and all under warrenty. I wil try to go back to formula honda where I bought my car and complain about the cat and bogging noise again. My friend at pickering honda who is a mechanic there just changed one on a 2001 coupe with 30km on it and told me to bitch at formula honda even though I surpassed the 60km warrenty. The stupid cat costs over 1000dollars if you buy it yourself. Will keep everyone updated.
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Rep Power: 0 Not sure, but if you have the problem try to get them to replace it. Of course they got to actually feel the bogging noise first. Good luck, I'll also be trying to get them to replace mine too.
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Rep Power: 0 I went to formula yesterday (saturday), i asked one of the service guys if there was a bullentin about the cat fo 01 civics, he's like "no theres not." He didn't even check the computer?!? A$$!! But other then that Formula was pretty nice to me, they fixed 2 of my tires that had nails in it for free and gave me some rim air caps cause someone stole mine.
Anyway anyone know where I can find Honda Bullentins?
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Rep Power: 0 Just looking through my 2001 honda warranty booklet and on page 11 under emissions part list, it says that the three-way catalytic converter is covered for 8 years or 130,000km. Gonna call honda sometime this week about this because if so, they should change ours and hopefully the bogging noise will stop. Can someone confirm this, otherwise I will call them this week when I have the chance.
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Rep Power: 0 Formula is pretty good with regular maintenance although I know they skip some things, like in the Type C service crap it says they check all interior lights, well they didn't do that on mine or they would see that my Gauge light is out. Gotta b!tch at them sometime.....
Formula starts to suck when u complain about problems, they so dont' want to fix them for free...
Formula starts to suck when u complain about problems, they so dont' want to fix them for free...
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Rep Power: 0 Can someone please explain this "bogging" noise? I listen to loud music all the time so I really wouldn't know what to be listening for. So far I know that the noise originates from somewhere under the handbrake but other than that I haven't heard anything yet. Could someone please explain in detail what exactly the problem is with the catalytic converter? I will head to Roadsport tomorrow if someone can lead me to actual info regarding this callback/bulletin. I know already that Raodsport won't even know what I'm talking about. Furthermore I am just under the 60K mark and would like to replace the CC if it's free. Please keep me up-to-date.
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Rep Power: 0 Just called pickering honda and they say the cat is warranted for 8years or 130km. I set up an appointment with them on thursday, so I will let everyone how it goes.
CaptainK- bogging is a rumbling sound and you may feel this vibration underneath the shifter and passanger seat. It's actually your cat resignation.
CaptainK- bogging is a rumbling sound and you may feel this vibration underneath the shifter and passanger seat. It's actually your cat resignation.
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Rep Power: 0 Sorry guys, my friend tells me that this bogging noise is due to the b-pipe which many of you already know. It's kind of stupid because the b-pipe is a one piece pipe that's welded to the catalytic convertor. The cat is the one warranted for 8years or130,000km and the b-pipe 3years or 60,000km. It's kind of stupid because if they replace the b-pipe they have to replace the cat and vice-versa. Talking to formula honda now and their trying to find the service bulletin on the b-pipe, their going to call me back. Will keep everyone updated.
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Formula Honda called me back and told me he couldn't find the service bulletin. My friend guarantee's that it exists, so the guy at formula said that he's going to talk to honda canada and if so he said that he'll probably change this part even thought I'm at 79,000km. I actually brought in my car several times before 60,000km and they could not find the problem. The guy at formula honda was very nice about it and will be calling me tomorrow, his name is gary. Will let everyone know tomorrow. Sorry everyone for the long posts but I really want to get this stupid problem over with and end this once and for all.
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Formula Honda called me back and told me he couldn't find the service bulletin. My friend guarantee's that it exists, so the guy at formula said that he's going to talk to honda canada and if so he said that he'll probably change this part even thought I'm at 79,000km. I actually brought in my car several times before 60,000km and they could not find the problem. The guy at formula honda was very nice about it and will be calling me tomorrow, his name is gary. Will let everyone know tomorrow. Sorry everyone for the long posts but I really want to get this stupid problem over with and end this once and for all.
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Rep Power: 0 Just got the call from formula Honda and they called honda canada. It is confirmed and honda will now change my b-pipe for free. Even though I have passed the 60,000km mark and now at 80,000km. It's because I brought in my car for this problem a few times before the warranty and they could not find the problem. Will be going in for the fix next week, so finally I hope this gets the bogging out.
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