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Old Jun 16, 2003
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Exclamation This poor guy gets screwed on a car purchase

I just finished reading this on another car forum. The poor guy in this story is screwed over royally by some a$$hole selling an '89 BMW M3. It's a long story, but a good one. And something useful for anyone who buys used cars to know.
Click on the link in the thread for the story.
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Old Jun 16, 2003
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dumbass... should've listened to his gut
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Couldn't have linked directly to the story? Link to a link....what a waste of my time!!! j/p man. Reading now.
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Originally posted by dirtEsanchez
Couldn't have linked directly to the story? Link to a link....what a waste of my time!!! j/p man. Reading now.
Didn't wanna take credit for someone else's pointless wandering of the internet. j/k
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Old Jun 16, 2003
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Damn that was a long story, but it wasted 25 minutes of work.....Ahhhh.....Stupid *** shouldnt of just bought the car and figured to himself that he could of fixed all the problems when he got home. He should of listened to his gut and not rush into it.
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that sucks man. makes me think my car ain't so bad now.
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What gets me is the guys seems smart enough and has money, I guess he fell in love with the car and "had to have it!". Hind site is 20/20 but this guy should have told that guy to screw breakfast and coffee and just go out to the garage and see the car. If I was treated that way and had $10,000 in cash on me, I would have walked to the nearest store and called a cab and went home.

I wonder how this story ended up? Did he get his money back? Did that guy in Florida go to jail? (tune in next week I guess)
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if the guy was smart enough to have not signed the title and to cover his tracks, then he prolly isn't gonna get caught (for a while at least). If the other guy was dumb enough to buy the car after seeing all the warning signs, then i say he deserves it. i dont pity stupid people.
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i feel his loss

he described it as a dream that was becoming ture, to be able to drive across all the states in his dream car and become a piece of memory he won't forget (futher down the threads)

obviously, it's true that his dream has hinder his logic and he deserved it. but if i was in the same situation, i think i would've went for it myself

also, any of you read all those extra replies and such? it talks about how crappy carfax is. i guess it's always good to bring a car to a mechanic to get it checked and had everything ran. afterall i do live in florida
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Well, no one deserves to be taken. But it does happen all the time. CARFAX is a great resource, something that would have easily salved this dude 10 grand.

I would never have a problem letting someone run a car fax on my car, but then again I am honest. But I would never have done business without a bill of sale, never used cash, only a cashier's check, and all the signs he saw should have beat him over the head.

I guess the best thing is for everyone to learn from this. Perhaps paying 3 grand more at the dealer would have paid off.
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Originally posted by Voiceofid

...obviously, it's true that his dream has hinder his logic and he deserved it. but if i was in the same situation, i think i would've went for it myself...
I don't think the deserved it. But I agree with you that his "Dream" hinder his logic. He obviously wasn't paying attention to the car untill he bought it.
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This is F'n hillarious!!! If you read the forum which it is linked to - someone posted his home address and phone #!!! There were people CALLING him at all hours of the day.....


Now all we need is people signing him up for all kinds of junk mailing lists so that he receives all sorts of unwanted mail (aka the slashdot effect!!)
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Francisco Montoya
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(561) 790-3932

I've called him twice now asking about the M3, I did *67 first like on that forum and man he sounded pissed. I think you should all call him and tell him the same **** I did, the info about the Red M3 for 10,500 on Auto trader. I even red him back his address and all that info. Everyone do it, its 508pm here in texas, lets all pester him and stuff.
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Originally posted by opto_isolator
This is F'n hillarious!!! If you read the forum which it is linked to - someone posted his home address and phone #!!! There were people CALLING him at all hours of the day.....


Now all we need is people signing him up for all kinds of junk mailing lists so that he receives all sorts of unwanted mail (aka the slashdot effect!!)
hes now a subscriber to Playboy ...
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lol dudes, the guy *69 me and call me back saying 'where the *** did you find this you're the 2nd person to call me about it today' I was all like 'Just look on the webpage, oh and Keith could use his money back' He said 'who is keith and who the hell is this' and started rambling but i hung up. You guys call, its good fun.
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that sucks sooo bad
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man he must feel like an idiot, that sucks so much
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that sucks sooo bad
you should call the guy. Its really funny, and he sounds kinda like an idiot. Iuno I hate things like this ... I got scrwed over once and really feel for this guy. I think we shoudl all call, and most cell phones get free long distance. Thats how I did it .. good ol free long distance!
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Damn, I actually read the whole thing. Feel sorry for the guy that traveled so far. I wonder when he'll be posting the rest of the story.

LMAO! That number and address is actually real? That's f*cking funny!
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I hope everything works out for this guy.
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Damn, I actually read the whole thing. Feel sorry for the guy that traveled so far. I wonder when he'll be posting the rest of the story.

LMAO! That number and address is actually real? That's f*cking funny!
look on that forum and it has a continuation. Also, yes the number is correct so give him a call. Tell him keith sent ya! I just have so much hate for this guy .. screwing over someone like he did .. who had to fly from freakin washington. He should wind up like the car ... cut in half. Call him and give him a piece of my mind!
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Excellent idea - Ever hear of those celebrity web boards? You know, the one of Arnold calling Gateway or Al Pacino calling a limo service - "you just cost me $6,000!"

SOMEONE GO TO EBAUMS WORLD, CALL THIS FACKER UP, and play the webboards....

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/soundboard.html
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10:31 pm California: he isn't answering his phone =( and I had so many good pranks ready for him....
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The guy that bought the car has an ad on autotrader.com saying that he bought a stolen red/sand M3 and wants anyone else that happened to look at the car/talk to montoya to contact him. He has montoyas # on there which is 561-383-7985 and his own number too in case you have talked to montoya. Now that I have montoya's #, hmmmmmm.
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i read that whole story,, and it got me Fn Pissed off at that Montoya guy... i feel bad for that keith dude.. i wish i could have 5 mins alone w/ that guy in florida.. just me him.. and a baseball batt... kieth would get his money quick.. and me a GMC envoy
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Here is the link for the continuation of the story for those that don't see it.

And here is the contact information I've found.

Francisco Montoya
12150 Sugar Pine Trl
Wellington, FL
(561) 383-7985



Francisco Montoya
12150 Sugar Pine Trl
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(561) 790-3932
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Originally posted by cryption

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lol dudes, the guy *69 me and call me back saying 'where the *** did you find this you're the 2nd person to call me about it today' I was all like 'Just look on the webpage, oh and Keith could use his money back' He said 'who is keith and who the hell is this' and started rambling but i hung up. You guys call, its good fun.
haha ... OMG, that's too funny. A whole bunch of guys on the other site are calling him too. My stomach hurts from laughing so hard...
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damn, 4:00 in the morning and it seems that his phone is disconnected.
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DUDE, that sucks...

I hope it works out for him.
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