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Old 06-04-2003
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See how your vehicle RANKED

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WOW 7TH GENS RULE!!!!

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watch out... Civics rock! woo hoo! best pick!
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WOW we actually have the best of something!!! ... IMMA GET IN MY CAR AND SLAM IT INTO A WALL RIGHT NOW!!!... sigh
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I would never think a civic is that safe

Go civics
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are u kidding? of course its safe.. why else do u think they made it slow?!?!?!
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This is actually the sole reason why my parents bought a Civic in the first place back in 2001. I knew nothing about cars (we had a Ford Escort - actually wasn't all that bad). We were going to trade it in for a new car, almost bought a Focus, but my Mom didn't like it. So, I wanted a safe car, that's the most important thing to me in a car, did some searching and research, found that site, and what do you know, the Civic was best in its class. So I showed that to my Mom, and she was sold. We went down to the Honda dealer the next day and got the Civic - best thing we ever did, finally broke the Ford spell (POS Tempo -> another POS Tempo -> Escort Wagon -> Escort "Sport") that was the Ford curse on us, I'll always buy a Honda now, they may not be the fastest, but you know you have a good car underneath you when you need it the most.
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they don't list a toyota mr2
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Dont think ill be buying one of those any time soon.
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I always love these

its like something thats posted 500 times.

appearantly a lot of us bought this car without knowing why it sells in the first place *snicker*
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That was at 40mph... Pretty good... But would the results be same if it were higher? Say at about 60 or 65?
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Dont think ill be buying one of those any time soon.

The heavier the vehicle the more force there will be in the crash no matter if all the cars are going the same speed. They are pretty bad. Notice none of the trucks got a best pick rating, which is kind of sad considering I have always thought the larger the safer.
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someone post that impact video....
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Sentra 2000-03 models
Smeared pink and blue greasepaint shows where the dummy's right knee and shin contacted the ignition key and knee bolster. The key was bent during the impact



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Deformation of the driver door plus lengthening of the safety belt allowed the dummy's head and shoulder to go outside the door frame during the offset test.


for being americas #1 selling full size pick-up it sure has nasty crash results compared to its competition.

Major collapse of the occupant compartment left little survival space for the driver



wow look how well the element did also a best pik
The dummy's position in relation to the steering wheel and instrument panel after the crash test indicates that the driver's survival space was maintained very well.
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Weight doesn't matter as much as design. Look at the Lexus LS 430, it weighs 4,000 lbs, yet, it is rated Good in everything, and is a best pick.
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This test actually represents an off-set crash between 2 cars that are EACH going 40 mph... so I'm guessing the IIHS tests are actually throwing the cars against that stationary barrier at 80 mph.

When you think about how fast that is, and how small our hood area is, and how little damage the test dummy sustained in the Civic, that kinda gives you an indication of the remarkable engineering Honda put into the 7th gen Civic.

Now if only they could've put that same engineering skill into our suspension components ...



Taken off of the IIHS site:

"The barrier's deformable face is made of aluminum honeycomb, which makes the forces in the test similar to those involved in a frontal offset crash between two vehicles of the same weight, each going just less than 40 mph. Test results can be compared only among vehicles of similar weight. "
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The offset barrier test is stationary, I've seen the videos before.
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if the f-150 hit a civic.... those ratings are pointless.
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Exactly, plus the Civic and any other car it's weight would get thrown around by a heavier car.

Even though our car is safe, it would still get tossed around like a rag doll in a bad crash with a bigger car. But the Civic still is very safe, it's just obviously a car like the Lexus LS 430, safety wise, is better because it weighs 4,000 lbs and is a best pick as well.
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ahhh if physics serves me right, then hitting a brick wall would hurt more than hitting a pos ford pickup.
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Well yeah that's true I suppose in theory because the truck is dispersing rotating energy along with you, BUT, it's bumper would be into your face through the windshield when it piggy backs the hood, so it wouldn't be a good thing to say the least
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Ha....I didn't buy my vic for the engine....

I bought it so I could be safe in a head on collision.....

Wheres the dealership........I'd rather have a sweet engine....S2000?
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Ha....I didn't buy my vic for the engine....

I bought it so I could be safe in a head on collision.....

Same here
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I can tell you from personal experience that its a safe car. The only injury I got from my accident was a burn from the airbag.
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Was it on your hands or face? Does it hurt or anything when you hit the airbag that fast?
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Originally posted by Nick02ex
if the f-150 hit a civic.... those ratings are pointless.

Exactly, plus the Civic and any other car it's weight would get thrown around by a heavier car.
Thank you very much for that insightful comment... and if that F-150 hit an 18-wheeler, the ratings for the F-150 would the pointless as well.

If you bothered to read that site carefully, you would notice that they specifically point out the tests represent crashes between cars of similar weight and class.

Using your logic, everybody should be driving gas guzzling land yachts just to be one up from everybody else in case of a crash, right? lease:

But then again, you guys may be on to something there... perhaps you should right a letter to the IIHS informing them of how useless their tests are, due to the fact that a much larger car could demolish a much smaller car. I am sure it is something that has never crossed their minds during all the thousands of crash tests they performed. They would be truly enlightened to hear from you, I am sure.



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Ouch man, that was rough, awesome point, but rough. I can't laugh about the 18-wheeler vs. F150 though, seen that happen. Remember the civics in F&F going under the trailers? This F150 did the same thing, T boned straight under the trailer at about 80 mph, ripped the cab of the truck, upper torso's of passengers and all the glass clean off. The engine, chasis, bed and side panels came to a stop on the other side of the truck. So youre right, no safety test could have told you that might happen, only common sense would and that's why we don' t drive like *******s.

I am proud of our cars safety ratings, it was one of the reasons I got the car, my mom wanted me to be safe going off to college. I'm alive so that must be testimony to something.
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Originally posted by Ronin
Thank you very much for that insightful comment... and if that F-150 hit an 18-wheeler, the ratings for the F-150 would the pointless as well.

If you bothered to read that site carefully, you would notice that they specifically point out the tests represent crashes between cars of similar weight and class.

Using your logic, everybody should be driving gas guzzling land yachts just to be one up from everybody else in case of a crash, right? lease:

But then again, you guys may be on to something there... perhaps you should right a letter to the IIHS informing them of how useless their tests are, due to the fact that a much larger car could demolish a much smaller car. I am sure it is something that has never crossed their minds during all the thousands of crash tests they performed. They would be truly enlightened to hear from you, I am sure.
Uh, yeah, that's not what I'm saying at all, and thanks for being a whiney little bitch about it. All I'm saying is the bigger the car you hit, the more damage it makes, does that make sense to you? lease:

The Civic is a very safe car, and I wouldn't drive anything else in this size class.


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