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Hey
I just have a couple of question regarding engine swaps.
1. Is it possible for us to drop in any of the B series engines?
2. Is it possible for us to drop in a K20A? I know it's possible to drop in the K20A2/A3, but would i have to convert to right-hand side in order to drop the K20A??
3. IF I'd get an engine swapped, where would I buy be able to buy bolt-ons for the new engine? Would I have to get them custom made?

Any help on any of these would be nice..
thanks in advance

 
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1. it isnt possible at this time, but if u got enuff money and a 01 it is legal to drop in a 2001 integra engine in ur car

2. yes it is possible to drop in any k20 engine, dc5@em2 has a type r engine so does hp and no you dont have to convert to right hand drive

3. most of the stuff u can use the k20 or b engine components, but stuff like headers, exhaust you would need to be custom fabricated

 
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A B-series should be able to fit, although no one has done it yet. It might even be easier to drop a B-series than a K-series. You might even be able to use the existing engine mounts. If not, then you'll need to fabricate your own. Try contacting Jeff Schaeffer at ImportBuilders (www.importbuilders.com) - he's looked into this and has some ideas on it.

For a K-series swap, you can use the standard bolt-ons, but you might have to do some customization to get everything to fit right. I'm still using a GReddy EVO exhaust, but it's been shortened a few inches, and I'm running a custom downpipe from the header to the cat. I'm also using a C&R high performance radiator, but the stock radiator mounts had to be shaved slightly to get the thing to fit. I also did some custom rigging for the radiator fan wiring - ghetto-style with no weatherpack connector protecting the wires LOL.

 
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You could convert your car to RHD being completely stock. It has nothing to do with the engine in your car.

 
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To convert your car from LHD to RHD and vice versa, you'll probably need to replace some (not all) of the electrical wiring harness, simply because they're on the opposite side of the car.

 
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true...but that will cost some MAJOR cash to do the switch

 
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I beleive that to use the K series you need the sub frame as well. You will also want urothane engine mounts. The one Hasport did looked kinda tight but you could probably still get a CAI and Header in it. They did it in a 4dr and it cost around $10,000 US...

I dunno about where you are but here you are not allowed to use an engine older than your car. Kinda sucks...but oh well.

Maybe a CRV Block and Type R head would work too...I was told that it would fit in my coupe.

 
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Yeah, if you own a 2k1 then you're in luck of having either a B or K engine under the hood in California. It's either Integra or CR-V B engines.

Unless your 7th Gen is Jay Dee Em, as the first 7th Gen JDM ES was a 2000. Just food for thought.

 
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The K20 engines can be swapped in for around $7000.

brian g

 
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would that include labor and everything?
would that price also apply to a k20a swap?

 
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the k20a needs to be imported... so no...

 
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Sigh...

Be damned...

 
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it is possible to fit a B series in the car, and no it isnt that hard... i seen it in person, the mounts look kinda weird, as if they didnt fit right...

 
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i heard that it is illegal to swap an older engine into a newer car, is that true?

 
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Yes

 
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the K series swaps into our cars can be as low as $4500, that includes everything except the charge at the acura dealership to reprogram the ECU, i dont know how much thats gonna be. But $4500 is what my swap is costing me, i just did all the calulations.
Motors on ebay are going for as low as $3000 now. Thats not too bad seeing how they were up to $5000 about a year ago.

 
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The RSX engine is 2.0L aluminum alloy I4 with 16 valves and DOHC and our engines (well, mine at least) are 1.7L aluminum alloy I4 with 16 valves and SOHC. Only 300cc difference in size and yet such different outputs. This is simply because one engine is tuned for performance while the other is tuned for economy--I'm sure most of you already knew this. Knowing this, why would anyone pay such amounts of money to swap for a slightly heavier engine that is insignificantly larger...yet already tuned. You gain DOHC, you gain the latest i-VTEC technology, a 6-speed transmission, but other than that...you've just replaced your engine with something that you could have done yourself if our cars had more aftermarket support or if you knew some folks that were good at making custom engine parts. It's really a shame there aren't more performance aftermarket parts available for the 7th generation Civics and owners are having to resort to such desperate measures as swapping for an engine that has only recently become available, yet has overwhelming aftermarket support. I'm about to just throw some heavy chrome wheels on my Civic, install a GPS nav system, and some audio stuff and then buy another car for a street rod. It's really a dang pity too, because I think the 7th gen Civic is a d*mn clean cut, nice-looking car that would be cool as a street rod.

 
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we have enough aftermarket support, look at all the turbo 7thgens around. the k-series engine isn't nearly as finely tuned as a d17. the d17 is basically maxed out from the factory, while basic boltons to the K gain loads of power.

 
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I'm too lazy to explain why the add-ons respond differently on both engines, but I will say this....WHERE are all these turbo 7th gens?! And the D17 maxed out from the factory? No engine is maxed out from the factory; especially not the D17. Until that thing is screaming at 10,000+ RPMs and ready to explode into a thousand pieces, it's not maxed out. I'm not going to be mean, though it's mighty tempting, hehe. However, you need to do a lot more homework when it comes to understanding how engines work.

 
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Does anyone have any more info on B series swaps???

 
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Even if you turbo a D17, Hondata + Comptech header on a Type S will still own it.

The K series engine has a honeycomb of aftermarket support compared to the D17. Like you said... "if" the D17 had aftermarket support, but it doesn't - like you said, it's not concentrated on being a performance engine.

So what if you knew someone who could make custom parts for your car? Custom parts are not cheap. To get that engine up to the potential of the K block is impossible even if you gut the life out of it. I don't care what anyone tries to do to that engine. I'm not saying that you can't get power out of it, but the K-series potential is shown just after nearly 2 years of the engine being in production thanks to the engine alone showing interest in modifications.

Engine swaps are getting cheaper... hell, it's cheaper to buy a new LX Civic and swap the K20A2 than just buying the RSX-S new, or maybe even used. Why NOT the K-series engine? It starts out with ample power compared to a D17 and it's personality thirsts for more with optimism. The D-series is a pessimistic child - the worse form of pessimism ever.

IMO, "traditionally" it's been the best thing to do to a Honda Civic by putting in a better powerplant and nothing compares. I wouldn't call it a desperate measure especially since you're basically taking a more powerful engine from a Civic chassis into the original Civic chassis. There's nothing desperate about that with how I look at it. The RSX-S is a 200 horsepowered Civic, overpriced because it's got an Acura badge on it.

I say you can do what ever you want to your engine but I fairly think it's not worth it. It will never live up to the B or K or H engines in terms of capability. I'd be impressed to find someone who ACTUALLY has a new Civic with A D17 pushing at or near 200 wheel horsepower naturally aspired, but who's going to do it? No one has yet. If it's you, then good luck. To his/her their own.

 
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well said.
plus, how many 7thgen civics can say that they are in the 13sec 1/4 family N/A? I will be able to soon...thats sayin a lot if you are into racing. So bring on your nitrous civics, and your turbo civics...i will just have I/H/E/Hondata and you will see tail lights