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Talking Integra Type R Expo 3 Video teaser.

100+ ITRs @ BeaveRun.

This has got to be one of the best ITR videos I've ever seen... and it's only a teaser. The original is in production this very minute. This was said to be the best Expo yet.

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First and foremost, yes... that fake black pearl (FBP) R is turboed.
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Mugen's Type S is K20A-R'd.
Took place on the East Coast @ Beaver Run Raceway in Pennsylvania.
World record of 110-Rs converged in a procession around a track.

Hype R 0wnz yUo!
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HOLY *********IN **** KABOBS!!! i wanna get my car on a track like that! anyone know if events like this happen for 7thgen civic owners?
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7th Gen Civics wouldn't even pass the requirements for such an event. So no.

You MIGHT just see a 7th Gen Civic coupe @ next years expo, though. Other than ITRs, there was one modified Si on the track, a WRX and an EVO 7.5/8.
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tight vid
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damn i want one
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i want a type r soooo bad.

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there is a new show circut starting up at beaver run raceway in pittsburgh pa within the next year or so. i got an ad about it at the carlisle show. if i can find the ad i will post more info about it. the guy said it is going to be a huge car sow with chances to run the track for virtually no cost. there will be professional drivers as well ready to give rides and ****. sounds pretty cool.
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Originally posted by SlammedBlueEM2
7th Gen Civics wouldn't even pass the requirements for such an event. So no.

You MIGHT just see a 7th Gen Civic coupe @ next years expo, though. Other than ITRs, there was one modified Si on the track, a WRX and an EVO 7.5/8.

what do you mean our Civics wouldn't even pass the requiremenst???????
thats BS. have you ever run a track day? PDS? Solo 1 Event? for most, the only requirement is a Snell 2000 helmet. and at most a bolt in roll cage. there is no Minimun HP, or special requirments for suspenion at all. The SCCA even has a class of racing called Appropriatly Showroom Stock, where the only thing you are allowed to add to the car at all is a roll cage!! You dont even need racing tires. For most track events all the car has to do is pass a basic safty inspection and meet the minimum safty requirments. other then that they dont care what you race with be it a Porsche, or a Ugo.
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hot vid!!! i wish i can turn as fast as that yellow teg did around the corner
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Dang.... I thought all that road footage looked familiar, go figure, but now I have to change my boxers
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Originally posted by Civic2k1racer
hot vid!!! i wish i can turn as fast as that yellow teg did around the corner

you can, its mostly driving technieque. Knowing when and where to turn in, plus that guy didnt take that turn as smothly as he should have, it looks like he was just trying to get throuth the corner fast instead of properly (which is allways faster) he was relying on his tires to get him through the corner rather then the driver giting throuhg the corner. I say this because during the corner the car jumps, as the tires slip then regrip the track, thats caused by driver error. He was to jerky with the controles. Dont under estimate our civics, in stock form they arn't all that great at cornering, but with a little tuning they can accell at the track.
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what is allowed at all these SOLO1 events and all? i mean, i know a car can be modified but i also heard that cars cannot have like nitrous, turbo, and other kinds of heavy mods. and i also heard they cant have CF hoods... is this all true? if it is then i guess they only allow mostly suspension mods rigth?
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Originally posted by Zzyzx
what do you mean our Civics wouldn't even pass the requiremenst???????
thats BS. have you ever run a track day? PDS? Solo 1 Event? for most, the only requirement is a Snell 2000 helmet. and at most a bolt in roll cage. there is no Minimun HP, or special requirments for suspenion at all. The SCCA even has a class of racing called Appropriatly Showroom Stock, where the only thing you are allowed to add to the car at all is a roll cage!! You dont even need racing tires. For most track events all the car has to do is pass a basic safty inspection and meet the minimum safty requirments. other then that they dont care what you race with be it a Porsche, or a Ugo.
My point was, I wouldn't see many 7th Gens who'd even be willing to go that far just to go around a track in such an uninspired car. Impossible? No.
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Originally posted by Zzyzx
you can, its mostly driving technieque. Knowing when and where to turn in, plus that guy didnt take that turn as smothly as he should have, it looks like he was just trying to get throuth the corner fast instead of properly (which is allways faster) he was relying on his tires to get him through the corner rather then the driver giting throuhg the corner. I say this because during the corner the car jumps, as the tires slip then regrip the track, thats caused by driver error. He was to jerky with the controles. Dont under estimate our civics, in stock form they arn't all that great at cornering, but with a little tuning they can accell at the track.
I think it takes more than a lil' tuning. I'm not saying that a Civic couldn't do that but a little tuning? The only thing you can't duplicate is the stiffended chassis of the R. Plus I don't know anyone who's put a limited slip differential on their D17.

There were very few ITRs out there on stock springs and struts. Their impressions were that the suspension is very trackable, but for people who've put down mad cash in their suspension were the ones rolling over peeps. The EVO 7.5/8 pretty much rolled everyone.
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uh, no one answered my question.... someone? anyone?
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Dude, LSD's actually hinder cornering, especially on a FWD car. what they do is help on exiting corners. by limiting the amount of tire spin on the unloaded front tire. Ever hear of Throttle induced understeer? well its worse when you have an LSD on a FWD car. thats why they are Rairly used on actual FWD race cars (talk to the guys that run Improved Touring). oh ya, the chassis of the type R is the same as on a GSR. the only difference is that the Type R has strut tower bars put on stock. and yes with a little tuning you can be as good in the corners as a Type R. you may not be able to keep up with one on a straitaway but you will be able to hang with them through the corners.

I hate to burst people bubbles about the ITR, its a great car and probably one of the most race ready cars Honda makes stock. However, underneth all the special badging their is really very little difference between a Type R and a GSR.
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Originally posted by wcsjunior
what is allowed at all these SOLO1 events and all? i mean, i know a car can be modified but i also heard that cars cannot have like nitrous, turbo, and other kinds of heavy mods. and i also heard they cant have CF hoods... is this all true? if it is then i guess they only allow mostly suspension mods rigth?

sorry about that, I got cough up in a different conversation.

SOLO 1 events are very simalar to a Solo2 event (Autocross) which means that there is a class you can run in with just about any car ever made with just about any modification ever made. you may not be competitve in the class, but you will be able to run. the only Modification that I know is Expressly prohibited is Nitrous.
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Originally posted by Zzyzx
you can, its mostly driving technieque. Knowing when and where to turn in, plus that guy didnt take that turn as smothly as he should have, it looks like he was just trying to get throuth the corner fast instead of properly (which is allways faster) he was relying on his tires to get him through the corner rather then the driver giting throuhg the corner. I say this because during the corner the car jumps, as the tires slip then regrip the track, thats caused by driver error. He was to jerky with the controles. Dont under estimate our civics, in stock form they arn't all that great at cornering, but with a little tuning they can accell at the track.
true, but im still rolling on stock suspension with firestones lol!
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I've been eyeing the type R lately....and it's been really hard resisting trading in my Civic.....even though I've spent thousands in mods..lol! This video isn't making it any easier!
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Originally posted by Zzyzx
oh ya, the chassis of the type R is the same as on a GSR. the only difference is that the Type R has strut tower bars put on stock.
Nope.

The Type R chassis FYI actually has special staplings on it to keep it rigid. It starts out as a GS-R chassis, yes but with more reinforcement.

I hate to burst people bubbles about the ITR, its a great car and probably one of the most race ready cars Honda makes stock. However, underneth all the special badging their is really very little difference between a Type R and a GSR.
Most inaccurate statement evAr. I'm not going to argue with your opinion.
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Opinion? shure, Lets see the major differences between the GSR and the Type R shall we.

1. different engin/drivetrain
2.different suspension as in springs/shocks/control arms(lighter)/Strut bars/Different Anti-rollbars
3 differetn badging/interior
4. lighter chassis (due to most of the sound deading pad being removed) Ive never seen nor heard of the chassis having speical "Staples" to strenghing the chassis. and yes I have worked on both the GSR and the Type R as a body tech.

dosent look like there are any special Type R things that cant be done to a GSR, so yes, I say that there is not much difference between the two.
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I don't know what to say.

I'm so... shocked...

What a lesson I've been given.

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Nice vid...very nice! Even if our Vics our slow....it would still be tyte to have a vid made w/a whole bunch of 7thgens like that.
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Originally posted by SlammedBlueEM2
My point was, I wouldn't see many 7th Gens who'd even be willing to go that far just to go around a track in such an uninspired car. Impossible? No.
I open track my car all the time and I wouldn't call it uninspired. It's not the fastest on the track, but I pass guys in faster cars who don't know how to take the line all the time. But it's not about being the fastest or coolest, it's about having fun! And it's definately fun to drive your car at a track or autox!

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Originally posted by Zzyzx
I hate to burst people bubbles about the ITR, its a great car and probably one of the most race ready cars Honda makes stock. However, underneth all the special badging their is really very little difference between a Type R and a GSR.
I thought the Type R weighs less too. No, leather seats, heavy interior panels with sound deadening material, lighter parts through out the chassis, and various other things. So you are telling me that Japan only gets the lightened Type R and we have to drive a modified GSR that weighs about 2800-3000 lbs? I thought the Type R weighs about the same or less than our cars that tip the scale at 2550(at least that is what they say on the website)?
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Originally posted by SlammedBlueEM2
Nope.

The Type R chassis FYI actually has special staplings on it to keep it rigid. It starts out as a GS-R chassis, yes but with more reinforcement.
I think he is talking about beading the welds and reinforcing them. It does make it stiffer, but I do not recall Honda ever doing that to a car.
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My point is, that there is nothing on a type R that you couldn't do to a GSR. this is expecially true when you convert the two cars to racing, the type R would be easier, and cheeper in the long run. but you can do the same things to a GSR, and get the same perfomance. the advantage that the R has over the GSR is that a lot of the things you would want to do to make a GSR in to a race car have all ready been done/added on the Type R. Stock to stock the type R is by far the better handling/perfoming car, but with a little time and $$ you can make a GSR handle/perform as good as a type R.
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mayn that was a sweeeeeettt vid. i plan on gettin a GSR in the comin months. its gonna be a sweet car i tell ya!
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