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Old Jan 22, 2003
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My first time...

Do you remember yours? Today at school I was dropping off someone at an entrance, there was someone in front of me who was taking a long time. I looked behind me, put my car into reverse and rolled back a little to go around the other car. I was going nice and slow in reverse and I heard a loud bang. I got hit, by a land rover with a big *** brush guard on the front. It cracked my bumper in two different spots. The other ladie's brush guard was pushed back a little but no body damage. Am I at fault? What I don't understand is that I was going less that 5 miles per hour and have all this damge, she obviously hit me at a faster speed or something Anyways, who will the insurance say was at fault? This is my first time getting into an accident and wow, it sucks. Help me please!
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SOrry to hear[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/IMG] It all depends now
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Any witnesses??
Was there a police report taken??






If nobody says that they saw you 'backing up'...then she will have the bill for damages [IMG]i/expressions/demon.gif[/IMG]




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JohnnyLee: Depends on what?[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]

FALKEN: No police report... my friend who i was dropping off will make a fine "witness" , and yes thats what

I was thinking... maybe I'll go ahead and kick my stock muffler a lil tonite and get a new exhaust [IMG]i/expressions/demon.gif[/IMG]

just kidding about the exhaust thing, insurance fraud is bad news
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No citation then if there wasn't a report taken

You'll have to claim against her insurance...They will look at the 'area of damage' and conclude that she had 'failure to control' her vehicle...

Still...your in the clear


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It does, alot FALKEN ... but what if she claims that I back into her?
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Then you go into her word against your's Witnesses are good, whoever has the most and the best crdability wins! Otherwise your, prolly looking at
50-50 liability.

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I doubt very much that you could do that much damage to her Rover by backing up 3-5feet (normal space between vehicles at a stop)





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Just be adamant that you were not rolling backwards and you'll be all set.....
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wow just say she rearended you bing bang boom you have a body kit some exhaust and a nice looking car
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dont say you were backing up and didnt look in your mirrors. Youll be fine.
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Were you in reverse, or just rolling back? If your reverse lights weren't on, you're at fault w/o a doubt.
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dont forget to mention that you have incurred neck and back pains, and presto, paid vacation.[IMG]i/expressions/demon.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
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dont forget to mention that you have incurred neck and back pains, and presto, paid vacation.[IMG]i/expressions/demon.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][hr]






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[hr]Originally posted by: CivicRicer02
wow just say she rearended you bing bang boom you have a body kit some exhaust and a nice looking car[hr]
Well I already have a full kaminari kit but luckily her car was so damn high that it didnt hit the kit, and surprisingly it didnt hit my trunk. It only hit the flat area of the bumper.

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[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/IMG] I too had a backing-up incident. In a normal double sided row of parking spaces, the vehicle on the other side was this rusted old pickup (which either had small wheels or was lowered). I was backing into the space (cause it's easier to pull out when you're facing the direction you want to go. I could not see that the pickup's hatch door was not in it's up-right closed position. So I backed into it a little. It made a nice 1/2 foot dent in the face of my trunk lid.

Didn't want to get in trouble so I parked half way across that part of the lot. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/IMG] And I went for my haircut, which was all I wanted that day.

Luckily no paint chipping. It just looks like it was pushed in. Don't wanna pop it back out either, because then it would look like a little pitcher's mound was next to the license plate.
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[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/IMG] I too had a backing-up incident. In a normal double sided row of parking spaces, the vehicle on the other side was this rusted old pickup (which either had small wheels or was lowered). I was backing into the space (cause it's easier to pull out when you're facing the direction you want to go. I could not see that the pickup's hatch door was not in it's up-right closed position. So I backed into it a little. It made a nice 1/2 foot dent in the face of my trunk lid.

Didn't want to get in trouble so I parked half way across that part of the lot. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/IMG] And I went for my haircut, which was all I wanted that day.

Luckily no paint chipping. It just looks like it was pushed in. Don't wanna pop it back out either, because then it would look like a little pitcher's mound was next to the license plate. [hr]
Haha hit and run

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[hr]Originally posted by: Sparty
Were you in reverse, or just rolling back? If your reverse lights weren't on, you're at fault w/o a doubt.[hr]
I got an automatic transmission and i was on flat ground, my reverse lights were on



If I have 5 mph bumpers and I made contact with her almost immediatly after I started moving backwards, I got hit and I have a cracked bumper... i think she was moving forward IMO How could I do that much damge? plus she claimed her brush guard got bent in the front I wanted to smack her sooo bad, but I refrained [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/IMG]
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remember it's very difficult to prove someone was backing into you. you have the upper hand on this one.
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1. File a police report. It's important to do because your claims agent will be looking to get it. And if she files one and you don't, it reflects poorly on you for not reporting the accident. Different states have different laws, but you usually have about 5 business days to claim it. You can pick up the claim form at any precinct, but I think it's better if you pick one up from the precinct that covers the area that the accident was in.

2. Be as descriptive as possible when making the police report and telling your insurance company. This is important to make your case strong. If she's smart or has experience, then she'll be doing the same. BE TRUTHFUL.

3. Tell your insurance company as soon as possible, if you haven't already. Otherwise they're going to ask why you waited blah blah blah...

4. Be prepared for the accident to be "no-fault." Because if you didn't check all your mirrors, look back, and make sure you were clear of any marked traffic control devices, you're just as much at fault as she was. If you were a fraction at fault, it could STILL mean a hike in insurance and your deductible.

5. If she won't file a claim with her insurance agency, see how much it would be to repair and see if she's willing to settle out of claims...it could be cheaper than her deductible and might be willing to do the repairs. If she's unwilling, then expect to go to your insurance company to get the ruling.

6. You are not bound by any laws to talk to the other person's insurance company. If her insurance company calls asking for answers, simply politely ask them to speak with your claims agent to handle things. It's your right, and considering every word you say to her insurance company will be taken down and try to be used against you, it's better to let the insurance company figure it out.

7. What I found works great is taking the car to your dealer. Then when they send a claims agent, tell them that you've had the car inspected to see how much it would be, and that you have a quote from the dealership. Sometimes insurance companies will use it, sometimes they won't. But if they do, chances are you can get a quote much higher than what they'd normally shell out to you, and the adjuster will take the word of the dealership that the damage done both internally and externally is all written out. Don't forget that claims adjusters when they take a look at your car will only make a visual inspection. Any other damage will be assessed by the body shop that you take the car to. Additional money needed for the repairs will have to be reviewed by a claims adjuster AGAIN in order to determine if the "newly found" damage is correct.

8. Insurance companies don't have to use OEM parts (and they usually don't because OEM is more expensive for them to shell out), but it's your right to request it. Be aware of where the markings are for OEM parts. I had a body shop quote me for OEM and give me aftermarket just to get some more money out of me. It pays to know your car!

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If you were at fault in any way, be the bigger person and admit to it. I know people tell you to look out for yourself, but bottom line, if you WERE (I stress IF) at fault, it's not fair to the other person. They could have far worse financial hardships than you. Considering she owned a land rover, I don't think hardship is an issue, but it's a matter of being honest. Karma does come around.

The main thing is to be truthful. If you don't and you're caught in a lie, you could have far worse repercussions than just a deductable and your insurance going up. If you haven't covered for very long with your insurance company, accidents can spell a cancellation of coverage. You haven't built up enough time with your insurance company for them to recognize that you're still a low-risk customer (if you haven't been covered for very long though them)

Since there are details that are left out, I thought I'd give you a broad range of things to be aware of, whether it applies to the situation or not. Hope that helps...
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[hr]Originally posted by: dragoon
remember it's very difficult to prove someone was backing into you. you have the upper hand on this one.[hr]
I have proven this. Mind you, I was honking my horn and had a turn signal out, as well as being at a complete stop, but I proved it. Your case is NOT as strong because your car was in motion. It's basically in the hands of your claims agent I think. If I had to make a guess, I would see a 60/40 split on who's to blame on this one. I'm curious to know how it all turns out...let me know too!
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1. File a police report. It's important to do because your claims agent will be looking to get it. And if she files one and you don't, it reflects poorly on you for not reporting the accident. Different states have different laws, but you usually have about 5 business days to claim it. You can pick up the claim form at any precinct, but I think it's better if you pick one up from the precinct that covers the area that the accident was in.

2. Be as descriptive as possible when making the police report and telling your insurance company. This is important to make your case strong. If she's smart or has experience, then she'll be doing the same. BE TRUTHFUL.

3. Tell your insurance company as soon as possible, if you haven't already. Otherwise they're going to ask why you waited blah blah blah...

4. Be prepared for the accident to be "no-fault." Because if you didn't check all your mirrors, look back, and make sure you were clear of any marked traffic control devices, you're just as much at fault as she was. If you were a fraction at fault, it could STILL mean a hike in insurance and your deductible.

5. If she won't file a claim with her insurance agency, see how much it would be to repair and see if she's willing to settle out of claims...it could be cheaper than her deductible and might be willing to do the repairs. If she's unwilling, then expect to go to your insurance company to get the ruling.

6. You are not bound by any laws to talk to the other person's insurance company. If her insurance company calls asking for answers, simply politely ask them to speak with your claims agent to handle things. It's your right, and considering every word you say to her insurance company will be taken down and try to be used against you, it's better to let the insurance company figure it out.

7. What I found works great is taking the car to your dealer. Then when they send a claims agent, tell them that you've had the car inspected to see how much it would be, and that you have a quote from the dealership. Sometimes insurance companies will use it, sometimes they won't. But if they do, chances are you can get a quote much higher than what they'd normally shell out to you, and the adjuster will take the word of the dealership that the damage done both internally and externally is all written out. Don't forget that claims adjusters when they take a look at your car will only make a visual inspection. Any other damage will be assessed by the body shop that you take the car to. Additional money needed for the repairs will have to be reviewed by a claims adjuster AGAIN in order to determine if the "newly found" damage is correct.

8. Insurance companies don't have to use OEM parts (and they usually don't because OEM is more expensive for them to shell out), but it's your right to request it. Be aware of where the markings are for OEM parts. I had a body shop quote me for OEM and give me aftermarket just to get some more money out of me. It pays to know your car!

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If you were at fault in any way, be the bigger person and admit to it. I know people tell you to look out for yourself, but bottom line, if you WERE (I stress IF) at fault, it's not fair to the other person. They could have far worse financial hardships than you. Considering she owned a land rover, I don't think hardship is an issue, but it's a matter of being honest. Karma does come around.

The main thing is to be truthful. If you don't and you're caught in a lie, you could have far worse repercussions than just a deductable and your insurance going up. If you haven't covered for very long with your insurance company, accidents can spell a cancellation of coverage. You haven't built up enough time with your insurance company for them to recognize that you're still a low-risk customer (if you haven't been covered for very long though them)

Since there are details that are left out, I thought I'd give you a broad range of things to be aware of, whether it applies to the situation or not. Hope that helps...[hr]



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TwilightX you are awesome, thanks so much :_ bow:

FALKEN thanks you too

you guys have been awesome, your really helpful members and im not the only one who appreciates it... so thanks
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