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BIGGEST FIGHT EVER!!!



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[hr]they are just angry that they couldnt afford an si. They had to settle for the baby vtec. [hr]
is what they said, arent their instances of really cheap SI's nowadays cuz dealers cant get rid of them?
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Have you noticed that we post the actual facts that prove we can hang/ beat some SI's and all they say is
F-that we drive si's an ex can't beat us.
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MoodySi: "classic case of internet ricer liars!"

A classic case of this guys mom giving me internet head [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
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You know whats funny is IN Modesto ca (I hope they read this post to), My friends ls 4 door integra stock, beat a new civic si on Mitchell road. He had him by 3 car lengths at the end.
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Its pretty simple. Given equal mods, and equal drivers there is no way a 7th gen EX is going to keep up with an EP hatch. That being said, that is almost NEVER the case, especially I street racing. Way too many variables can come together to give either car a tremendous advantage, or disadvantage as the case may be. I’m sure one day Ricer A was driving his brand new Si around looking to race because his dad just bought him his dream rice... err ride. He comes up on 7th Gen owner B, whos had his car for a year or so, knows how to drive it, and maybe has some mods. They race, and the 7th gen owner wins, but not by much. He then comes home and writes up on the internet about how he just beat some punk kid id a new Si, with his EX and everyone starts jacking off. This propagates the rumor that "yes, indeed our cars can run with Sis!", which of course pisses off the guys at ephatch.

Now on to them. Oh god, Ive had my run-ins with these morons. Hell, I once flamed a guy for saying that he beat an ITR in the 1/4 by "double clutching". He ten went on to say he was running low 14s with just an intake and a muffler. Hell, his siganture changed more then black99vtec's in the course of the thread. Almost everyone on the board came to HIS defense. Funny part is that they were using the same bullshit they are on you by saying "oh, hes just jealous because we have the NEW Si and he had the crappy old one with the 1.6 liter!" and my favorite "my engine is bigger so my car is better!". Clubsi had the biggest flame roast evAr, and trust me, you dont want to screw with the Si VS all forum in clubsi. You WILL get owned, I dont care who you are or what you drive, there is someone there faster. What did ephatch.com do about that? They locked/deleted any and all threads started about the subject and complained like little bitches in their own forums. Trust me, its not even worth it to get in it with that retarded site. I dare say they are more full of them selves then the members of clubrsx.
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[hr]William: Someon needs to go down to 7thgencivics and race a stock EX, with their stock SI, The members down there seem to think a race is a good idea, so somone who lives in the US (caus i dont) has to try to hook up with a 7th gen'er and race and post the results. Meet up, check to make sure eachother is stock, then race andtell us whats up. Also having the ability to post a video of the race would be nice. Somone has to go down and represent, bottom line.[hr]
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[hr]02sivlersihb: So I posted a thread in the South forum to see if anyone wants to race me [hr]
02silversihb's thread

any one in san antonio willing to race this dude?
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i was waiting to get my tranny fluid changed cause im lazy so i took it to honda.

went into the showroom to see about the new si's. the salesman told me they ordered 20 cause they thought that the new ones would sell like the 6th gen. they are still trying to sell all of the original 20 ordered. the 02 si has dropped so much in price cause

a) its the mini-me minivan
b) its got the hideous in-dash ***** shifter
c) 6th gen si's stock for stock dust the new ones.

edit: they are yelling about ricer logic and all that, cept they pull some hypocritical stuff like this
"they keep yelling "Timeslips", they think a EX can run 15's stock, and that the SI runs the same, dumb bitches. Explain this then, if our cars run the same quarter mile, then how come their kill stories are all, caveleirs, sunfires, beat up ford escorts, and a host of 4x4's and out kill stories are integra GSR'S, celica GT'S, eclipses, and SVT'S. Thats all i got to say about that!" - william

like you can judge how fast a car is by internet kill stories. what a retard...
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I have yet to see/race an SI. I've seen the one at my local dealer and me and my friend couldnt stop laughing. Thing is sooo ugly! I beat my friends mazda mp3(he has an intake). I took him by inches, but winnings winnings. His car has about 170 hp, so i cant imagine that a 160hp Si is gonna be any more competition.
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they said a ex vs si would not be a "drivers race"....i know a guy here on base that has a 99 si with usual mods i/h/e and he ran a 16.3 quarter mile, i ran a 16.5 and that was my first time ever at the track, and i cut a better light then when he ran so i probably would have beat him to the line....so it can come down to the driver
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The new Civic Si is slow compared to its compition and its kind of ugly in peoples minds but I like the new hatches just needs bigger rims




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THAT CAR IS FUGLY !!!
But really who gives a $hit about what people ramble about on the internet. . . i bet a civic si is a lot funner 2 drive than an ex w/ the added torque. I'm sure a good driver can beat an si but the si is still faster, thats why they paid more for it.
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7th gen civs, still $16-17k +
new si $13-14 k

ugly is not the word

I saw an si race at the irwindale speed way. everybody in the stands were laughing and wondering why that dude was out on the track
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cmon everyone, dont hate on the hatch!
i mean, its not an ugly car...
i personally own a 7thgen coupe and to tell ya the truth, i think a si would win over an ex stock for stock if both drivers were just as good...
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the new si is just not a big seller. I like the interior with the exception of the shifter, I would have gotten one if i wasnt such a fatass[IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
real reason: if my insurance was reasonable for the coupe
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[hr]Originally posted by: wcsjunior
cmon everyone, dont hate on the hatch!
i mean, its not an ugly car...
i personally own a 7thgen coupe and to tell ya the truth, i think a si would win over an ex stock for stock if both drivers were just as good...[hr]
If both drivers were just as good, of course the si would win. It's faster!! But at least our cars dont look like minivans. No wonder that car doesn't sell. Insurance is also too high for that car.
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[hr]sumama: If both drivers were just as good, of course the si would win. It's faster!! But at least our cars dont look like minivans. No wonder that car doesn't sell[hr]
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must...take...shower...get....stink...of....rice.. ..off...me. my eyes are permanently damaged from reading the thread at ephatch.com

that being said, i have found a new breed of retard...the ricer, who calls someone who actually knows stuff about cars, and makes SENSE a ricer

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[hr]***WINNER OF BEST DIPLAY OF RICER MATH/LOGIC***
Decent EX driver's will get between 15.8 and 16.1 stock. And what does the average DECENT Si driver get? I'd like to see anything better than 15.6 in stock form, .3 seconds is no room for error ---Quoted from S2000man01
from 7thGenCivic [hr]


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[hr]they are just angry that they couldnt afford an si. They had to settle for the baby vtec. [hr]
is what they said, arent their instances of really cheap SI's nowadays cuz dealers cant get rid of them?[hr]
Yeup, I agree to most of their threads that it's a very rare case where a stock EX beats a stock SI, BUT, nowadays, you can tell a dealer to give you a SI for the same cost as a new Civic EX. And man, it's not all that different in price.
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What exactly is the arguement here? Equal drivers, Si wins. Since drivers arent equal, then the race becomes thrown one way or the other, depending on who has the better driver. Big fricken deal, why is this such a huge issue?

EDIT: And I certainly do not blame the people at EP hatch for being such dicks on their forum, with a car like the new Si that gets flamed CONSTANTLY for looking like total dog crap on top of being slow as hell, they probably developed pretty shitty attitudes and will go nuts sticking up for their car whenever possible.
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the new si only runs a 16.2 1/4 this is why a 7th gen can keep up with them even beat them
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well if u guys are racing in new york im down for the kill. just pm me. i swear to god im running stock!
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[hr]Originally posted by: sadboy916
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the new si only runs a 16.2 1/4 this is why a 7th gen can keep up with them even beat them[hr]
They have timeslips of EP's getting 15.7 stock.

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aren't there quite a few EP hatches here on 7thgencivic.com? why not set up a meet for friendly races between SiR hatches (canadian) / Si hatches and Si coupes / EX coupes?

and what about a 7thgencivic and ephatch meet?
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i wonder how my mom's seinna (with K&N filter) do on the 1/4 mile... 210hp! pull out all the seats and spare tire and i think i'd be able to beat an EP hatch lol! [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
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Well, there's no way in hell I'm racing that guy with my Econo Box 4 Banger LX Auto. But I think I know someone who will race him.........mwuahahahaha...
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i'd race him with an EK SiR sedan if we were in the philippines [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

too bad i have auto on my LXG lol!
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POSTED BY WILLIAM AT EP HATCH

Yo my stock si runs 12's cause it's hella quick with a good driver. Smoked a vette straight up, drivers race man. So what if my cars 3 seconds quicker than any of the mag times, that's because they never had ME driving it. Yo i'm done ya'll

This is starting to get stupid. I test drove an si and the dealer was practically begging me to take it. He offered to do a straight trade and lower my payments. He offered it to me for 15,250 and I paid 18,000 for my EX. I still didn't do it. Thought about it. But when I saw my EX parked next to the Si I decided not to sign the papers. Why? I'm too young to drive a minivan.
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He offered it to me for 15,250 and I paid 18,000 for my EX.[hr]
Dude you got ripped if you paid 18g's for an EX. I only paid 15 for mine.

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He offered it to me for 15,250 and I paid 18,000 for my EX.[hr]
Dude you got ripped if you paid 18g's for an EX. I only paid 15 for mine.[hr]
yea seriously. 15,500 and i rolled my vic off the lot with side airbags, and some other options. oh yea and it had 6 miles [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]


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