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Old Nov 12, 2002
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Before I begin, I feel the need to state: "There is NO replacement for displacement."
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If you had a choice from the cars below, what would YOU pick? I just thought I'd take a little time to compile a list of cars that'd be great to mod.

1993-1998 Toyota Supra
1994-1999 Mitsubishi 3000GT
1990-1996 Nissan 300ZX
1993-1995 Mazda RX-7

The reason I didn't mention their trim level is because it'd probably be a good idea to purchase their base model to cut price (especially in long run). The base model of the mentioned cars all come standard with 3.0L V6, although you'd sacrifice all-wheel drive with a standard Mitsu 3000GT over VR-4 (although, once again, you'd save yourself a lot of money upfront and more in the long run). I'm expecting a lot of you will probably say Supra, lol.

Edit: Okay, I added 1993-95 Mazda RX-7 because I am getting a feeling the Supra would just get too much glorifying, lol.
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I have a 98 supra, and I love it! Oh wait, no I don't, I just have the engine and drivetrain[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG]
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UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.........SUPRA BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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definetly supra!
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Here ya go, guys, she's all yours [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG]
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[hr]Before I begin, I feel the need to state: "There is NO replacement for displacement."[hr]
There is a replacement for displacement... it's called technology. Unfortunately, when you combine displacement with technology, you can't beat it....

I'd go with the Supra or the Z... Either one should be good for 5 or 600 HP, but there's probably more Supra goodies.
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i love the supra, man went to grab some lunch at work.went to the arby's up the road.i got sick .
there was 3 supras sitting side by side, man..... how id love to have a supra. a red one, a white one , then a BLACK one. SOOO SWEET!!!!!!!
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Supra all the way. Supra
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I'd have to go with a Supra - it's just beautiful outside and in, and the performance stock is awesome...
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[hr]Before I begin, I feel the need to state: "There is NO replacement for displacement."[hr]
There is a replacement for displacement... it's called technology. Unfortunately, when you combine displacement with technology, you can't beat it....

I'd go with the Supra or the Z... Either one should be good for 5 or 600 HP, but there's probably more Supra goodies.[hr]
Well, the problem with side-stepping displacement using technology is that you ultimately have to sacrifice reliability. You can take a 2.2L 4-cylinder engine and easily squeeze 400 horsepower out of it with turbos and cam technology, but that engine will not last as long as the big 8.0L V8 naturally putting out 400 horsepower. Okay, I know that may still sound ridiculous, but look at it this way...you have two rubberbands, one is 8 feet long (without tension) and the other is 8 inches long (without tension). You stretch both rubber bands to 10 feet in length; which will last longer over time? Okay, I know you can't stretch an 8-inch rubber band to 10 feet, but I exaggerated to emphasize the point. You even stated it yourself that when you combine displacement and technology, that it can't be beat. So, what I'm getting at is that displacement is the most important factor in engines. You can't work with what you don't have. Anymore ways I can say it? LoL. Now, if you put a stock 2001 Honda Civic LX against a Volvo freightliner hauling a 9,000 lb. trailer, his big engine isn't going to help him...but that is not about power...that's about power-to-weight ratio...which is an entirely different topic.
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a vr4, stock would probably dust a supra tt stock.
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RX-7 FD!!!! Love the looks and the potential power of that car, if i could afford one with my car, or just by itself i would have one.
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I too am an RX-7 fan for life, light weight, rotary, one of the best handling cars in the world, the list goes on....
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Mazda RX-7. Nuff said, it out handles a supra in stock form and it still has a lot of potential.
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[hr]Originally posted by: LikeWEEEEEEEEEE
a vr4, stock would probably dust a supra tt stock.[hr]
All-wheel drive and twin turbos is certainly a wicked combo. It would be great if someone could find accurate information on what these two cars ran the 1/4 mile in.
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i have no idea what hp and torque figures are for vr4, but if they are at all similar to stock figures of mkiv then the vr4 would get the win off the line. although, from a rolling start (i.e. highway) awd doesn't do much anymore plus the extra weight might come into play so i'd say the supra would win.

definitely pick the supra, upgrade to t88h, and it would beat almost everybody in the drag strip and could beat everybody on the highway, motorcycles/bikes be fu cked.

oh yeah, and if i could be picky i'd get the 97 or 98, i believe the uk version comes with bigger brakes in back and it isn't restricted to 280hp. any year tho it wouldn't matter because i'd put as much money as necessary to clean and strengthen the block as long as it was tt and 6-speed. althought i dunno if the vvt-i on the newer models really made a humongous improvement over the other ones w/out it?

edit: i just found this:

Engine : V6, twin turbocharged, DOHC, front engine AWD
Displacement : 2,972 cc
Valve : 24 valves, 4 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 6-spd manual
Fuel economy : city - 18 mpg
highway - 24 mpg

Suspension : F - Independent MacPherson strut
R - Upper and lower A-arms
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Vented discs

Horsepower : 320 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque : 315 lb-ft @ 2500 rpm
Redline : 7000 rpm

Top speed : 155 mph(limited)
0-60 mph : 5.0 sec.
0-¼ mile : 13.5 sec @ 105.0 mph
60-0 braking distance : 125 ft

Curb Weight : 3760 lbs(coupe), 3995 lbs(Spyder)
Overall length : 180.7 in.
Wheelbase : 97.2 in.
Overall Width : 72.4 in.
Height : 50.6 in.(coupe), 49.3 lbs(Spyder)
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I would get none of the above.... I would go ahead and get a super car ( Nissan Skyline ) and blow them all off the road...
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I found these values, don't know how accurate they are:

1994 Supra TT: 1/4 in 13.7 sec @ 104.6mph, 0-60 in 4.9 sec
1993 RX-7 TT: 1/4 in 13.7 sec @ 102.5mph, 0-60 in 5.0 sec
1994 Dodge Stealth R/T turbo: 1/4 in 13.9 sec @ 100mph, 0-60 in 5.2 sec(related to 3000GT)
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[hr]Originally posted by: Blown
I found these values, don't know how accurate they are:

1994 Supra TT: 1/4 in 13.7 sec @ 104.6mph, 0-60 in 4.9 sec
1993 RX-7 TT: 1/4 in 13.7 sec @ 102.5mph, 0-60 in 5.0 sec
1994 Dodge Stealth R/T turbo: 1/4 in 13.9 sec @ 100mph, 0-60 in 5.2 sec(related to 3000GT)[hr]
LoL. Look how close those numbers are. Somehow, I'm not surprised, hehe.
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I would get none of the above.... I would go ahead and get a super car ( Nissan Skyline ) and blow them all off the road...[hr]
Going to do that myself, GT-R32 here I come! I have to wait till 2004 though.

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1993-1995 Mazda RX-7
sexy car. hands down, it wins my vote.
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98+ LS1 Z28 ...

oh wait i mean FD RX7, with an LS1 engine [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
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I'm going to go ahead and be different and say the Nissan 300ZX. I LOVE the look of that car, and if you're planning on modding up the motor anyway it doesn't really matter if it's much slower in stock form.
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FD RX7 + 5.7L LT1 + super charger = OWNz J00
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Insane. How much did that swap cost?
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I keep seeing FD RX-7...what does FD mean? [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG] Is that FWD?
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FD is the body style of the last USDM RX7. you know, like EK civics or DC5 integras or E36 BMWs...
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FD is the 93-95 model designation, FC is the 87-91, etc.

I'd definitely go for the RX-7, IMO the most "pure" sports car of the bunch. I'd get it in either bright blue or british racing green
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