K20A bolt in kit and Hasport's 01 Civic.
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K20A bolt in kit and Hasport's 01 Civic.
Well, the Hasport K20A engine swap into our 01 Civic was completed a couple of weeks ago. The car looks and runs like stock. Two weeks ago we did the picture shoot of the install and the car for Honda Tuning magazine. It will appear in the December issue of Honda Tuning which will be out in December.
For those of you who are interested in doing the swap, the kit will be out in mid-November. I decided to push back the release date so that we could redesign the driver's side mount so that there is room for the factory battery.
Eventually (hopefully the next couple days), I will list the parts suggested for the swap. Along with pictures of the mounts and the engine swap. We are so busy I haven't been able to get to it yet. SEMA show is approaching quickly and the Civic is getting finishing touches, along with the three other cars we are bringing. But first, here are a few observations:
1) The Civic's engine bay has the same dimensions as the Civic Si, not the RSX. For that reason the RSX base model engine's intake manifold will not clear the core support.
2) The Civic Si radiator is a better fit than the RSX radiator, due to the location of the filler cap. The stock radiator's hose necks are in awkward positions and do not work well.
3) You will need the RSX or Civic Si subframe.
4) The 01-02 Civic engine harness contains the wiring for the primary O2 sensor, but not the RSX or Civic Si engine harness. This is a necessary part for code free operation so it has to be added. In the RSX or Si it is called the AFR (air fuel ratio) sensor, There is also a relay that goes along with it. The 01-02 Civic HX uses the same part. Use the HX wiring diagram for proper hookup. This part is for you Htown, it will fix your check engine light.
5) If you want powersteering, you will need to cut away some of the hood's underside support for pulley clearance. Use the RSX P/S hose, and return line.
6) The next two kits we do, will be B-series into the 01-02 Civic and K-series into the 96-00.
7) For those of you concerned about price, the good deal may eventually wind up being the K24 engine. For those of you who do not know, the K24 which is currently in the CRV, will be in the new Accord. Honda will produce and sell tens of thousands of these with 5 speeds and hundreds of thousands with automatics over the next few years.
The K24 has gobs of torque and is a real promising engine. Hondata has already started work on tunes for this engine. We are in the process of building one for our 02 Civic Si. I anticipate 240+ hp.
Also, the next upgrade for the 01 Civic is a turbo from Rev-Hard.
The future looks bright indeed.
brian g
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For those of you who are interested in doing the swap, the kit will be out in mid-November. I decided to push back the release date so that we could redesign the driver's side mount so that there is room for the factory battery.
Eventually (hopefully the next couple days), I will list the parts suggested for the swap. Along with pictures of the mounts and the engine swap. We are so busy I haven't been able to get to it yet. SEMA show is approaching quickly and the Civic is getting finishing touches, along with the three other cars we are bringing. But first, here are a few observations:
1) The Civic's engine bay has the same dimensions as the Civic Si, not the RSX. For that reason the RSX base model engine's intake manifold will not clear the core support.
2) The Civic Si radiator is a better fit than the RSX radiator, due to the location of the filler cap. The stock radiator's hose necks are in awkward positions and do not work well.
3) You will need the RSX or Civic Si subframe.
4) The 01-02 Civic engine harness contains the wiring for the primary O2 sensor, but not the RSX or Civic Si engine harness. This is a necessary part for code free operation so it has to be added. In the RSX or Si it is called the AFR (air fuel ratio) sensor, There is also a relay that goes along with it. The 01-02 Civic HX uses the same part. Use the HX wiring diagram for proper hookup. This part is for you Htown, it will fix your check engine light.
5) If you want powersteering, you will need to cut away some of the hood's underside support for pulley clearance. Use the RSX P/S hose, and return line.
6) The next two kits we do, will be B-series into the 01-02 Civic and K-series into the 96-00.
7) For those of you concerned about price, the good deal may eventually wind up being the K24 engine. For those of you who do not know, the K24 which is currently in the CRV, will be in the new Accord. Honda will produce and sell tens of thousands of these with 5 speeds and hundreds of thousands with automatics over the next few years.
The K24 has gobs of torque and is a real promising engine. Hondata has already started work on tunes for this engine. We are in the process of building one for our 02 Civic Si. I anticipate 240+ hp.
Also, the next upgrade for the 01 Civic is a turbo from Rev-Hard.
The future looks bright indeed.
brian g
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Rep Power: 0 i guess the rev hard rumors were true all along.
right now, i'm pissed drunk but this thread has sobered me up a bit.
now that the k is finished, can't wait for the b-series swap to start.
right now, i'm pissed drunk but this thread has sobered me up a bit.
now that the k is finished, can't wait for the b-series swap to start.
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Rep Power: 0 thats so cool thanks for the info would the new accord engine fit in our bays just like the crv one, im interested in getting a swap done but having a hard time if i want to spend the money, but i guess if you really r into the sport and how badly u want it, guess it wouldnt matter, does anyone knows if they are comming out with a new prelude, honda has to keep up with the nissan 350z and the new supra that might come out
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[hr]Originally posted by: luvmycivic2
thats so cool thanks for the info would the new accord engine fit in our bays just like the crv one, im interested in getting a swap done but having a hard time if i want to spend the money, but i guess if you really r into the sport and how badly u want it, guess it wouldnt matter, does anyone knows if they are comming out with a new prelude, honda has to keep up with the nissan 350z and the new supra that might come out[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: luvmycivic2
thats so cool thanks for the info would the new accord engine fit in our bays just like the crv one, im interested in getting a swap done but having a hard time if i want to spend the money, but i guess if you really r into the sport and how badly u want it, guess it wouldnt matter, does anyone knows if they are comming out with a new prelude, honda has to keep up with the nissan 350z and the new supra that might come out[hr]
There is TALK about it coming back redesigned in the 05 but dont count on it to much ....on another note things are looking good for the 7th gens mainly for the 01 if your interested in the Bseries but in general this is great news!
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[hr]Originally posted by: vincenzobar
I have a 2001 ex and I want it to be a GSR
Hurry with that B18C PLEEEEEEAAAAASSSSEEEEE
Screw the unreliable K20A
Yeah for the B series
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[hr]Originally posted by: vincenzobar
I have a 2001 ex and I want it to be a GSR
Hurry with that B18C PLEEEEEEAAAAASSSSEEEEEScrew the unreliable K20A
Yeah for the B series
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[hr]Originally posted by: iNteGraz92
wow ur an idiot
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[hr]Originally posted by: vincenzobar
I have a 2001 ex and I want it to be a GSR Hurry with that B18C PLEEEEEEAAAAASSSSEEEEE
Screw the unreliable K20A
Yeah for the B series[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: vincenzobar
I have a 2001 ex and I want it to be a GSR
Hurry with that B18C PLEEEEEEAAAAASSSSEEEEEScrew the unreliable K20A
Yeah for the B series
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agreed.
So now that the market is opening up....do you think any of this will persuade spoon to change their minds and do some work with the D17? OOOOOOOOOOOR will they be doing a spoon K20/24? yummy.
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Rep Power: 0 you all can do the B series right now. all it takes is cutting your mounts you have now and welding in the GSR mounts and then putting in the engine. after that you have to wire it. and your wires that you have now and the ECU you have now will not work. that is the hardest part.
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[hr]Originally posted by: iNteGraz92
wow ur an idiot
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[hr]Originally posted by: iNteGraz92
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[hr]Originally posted by: vincenzobar
I have a 2001 ex and I want it to be a GSR Hurry with that B18C PLEEEEEEAAAAASSSSEEEEE
Screw the unreliable K20A
Yeah for the B series[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: vincenzobar
I have a 2001 ex and I want it to be a GSR
Hurry with that B18C PLEEEEEEAAAAASSSSEEEEEScrew the unreliable K20A
Yeah for the B series
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To both of you. You obviously haven't heard about all the RSX's going back to the dealer becuase of engine failure. have fun with your K20 for about a year or so. Idiot my[IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG]
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Rep Power: 0 K20s engines don't fail because of unreliability, they fail because drivers blow them up with forced overrev because they miss shifts. They are not unreliable.
Toyota ran into the same problem with the GTS. Hopefully Honda won't assume the drivers are idiots like
Toyota and fix the problem by lowering the rev limiter.
On B-series swaps:
It's not quite that easy. But several people have them in the works, so accurate info will be out soon.
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Toyota ran into the same problem with the GTS. Hopefully Honda won't assume the drivers are idiots like
Toyota and fix the problem by lowering the rev limiter.
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[hr]you all can do the B series right now. all it takes is cutting your mounts you have now and welding in the GSR mounts and then putting in the engine. after that you have to wire it. and your wires that you have now and the ECU you have now will not work. that is the hardest part. [hr]
[hr]you all can do the B series right now. all it takes is cutting your mounts you have now and welding in the GSR mounts and then putting in the engine. after that you have to wire it. and your wires that you have now and the ECU you have now will not work. that is the hardest part. [hr]
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Rep Power: 0 I dont know if you can answer this or not brian, but is there any laws against putting an older engine into a new chassis? There have been rumors floatin around about this and I was kinda curious on if this is gonna be street legal to do. I know you can get b18's for 2k1, but would 2k2's be able to put in a b16 also or would that be considered illegal?
