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Old 10-22-2002
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2003 corolla s vs My 2001 civic ex

here is the deal... my buddy just got a new corolla s that looks sweet
but i was woundering what u guys thing about racing each other... who would win

Corolla s(Sedan)
Stock
Automatic
1.8L DOHC 130HP VVT-i@6000
*edit* 125ft/lb @4200
(factory body kit, spoiler)
2590 LBS.
Tires: probably potenzas 195/65r/15


Civic EX(Sedan)
Custom exhaust
engine is stock
Manual 5Spd
1.7L SOHC 127HP @6300 Vtec
*edit* 114ft/lb @4800
Spoiler
2557 LBS.
Tires: Toyo 800 ultra touring 185/65r/15

Bottom line... i think it should be pretty even considering hes got the automatic... but the extra 3 hp plus the DOHC would help him out...
has anyone ridden in the new corollas? do they pick up better than civics?
personally i think my car has an advantage cause its a stick...

*update*
we raced today...
Run 1 - i won by about a car length....
Run 2 - he won by a bumper length
Run 3 - i won by half a car length...
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take out your spare, everything in the trunk, and try to lose weight before the race.[IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG] But really though I think this will be determined by driver. How torquey are the corolla-s'?
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you got him, yotas are nice but the vic will take it all the way.
and i would know because i've never raced one![IMG]i/expressions/demon.gif[/IMG]
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I think you'll beat him no problem.

I don't know if this is accurate, but I was about to buy a Corolla-S...
Corolla had lower weight, a little bit more hp and torque...
then my friends said even with better specs on the Corolla, Civic will still win ( I don't know why.. ), but he sounded very convincing.

I was about half half on the decision.. so I just went with a Civic (IT LOOKS BETTER TOO).

Please let us know.. how it goes.
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element2k5.were in tc do you live?
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im in st paul.. i attend University of St Thomas....
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HEre are the specs

CIVIC first, COROLLA second

Base Engine 1.7L 127 hp I4 1.8L 130 hp I4

Turbo / Supercharger None None

Horsepower 127 @ 6300 RPM 130 @ 6000 RPM

Torque 114 lb/ft. 125 lb/ft.

Displacement 1668 CC 1794 CC

Bore X Stroke 2.95 X 3.72 3.11 X 3.6

Compression Ratio 9.9:1 10:1

Fuel Type Gas Gas

Fuel System MPFI EFI

Fuel Economy City 32 mpg 32 mpg

Fuel Economy Hwy 38 mpg 40 mpg


Exterior
Dimensions
Curb Weight Automatic 2652 lb 2590 lb

Curb Weight Manual 2601 lb 2524 lb
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u will kill him.. just cuz the fact that he's got auto!!!!
cant tell u how many times i gotten raped by 5 speed's!!!
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u will kill him.. just cuz the fact that he's got auto!!!!
cant tell u how many times i gotten raped by 5 speed's!!![hr]
i think it should be a good race.. cause hes got more power to compensate for the lack of a manual
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I think civic will win because of sportier gearing and revs up higher. So it takes more advantage of the gearing.
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Why did you all get the Sedans. the coupe would destroy it (sort of). The sadan with the exhaust should win. Just make sure you get a good jump off the start so he can't kill you when you hit 3rd. Oh and red lind it in 1st. VTEC kicks in around 3500 so make sure when you shift to second you are still at VTEC. These cars suck in second otherwise. However 3rd, 4th, and 5th aren't bad for pickup in the Zones. I have much experience in this with my STOCK civic EX coupe. I have beatin' a 3000gt Off the line and in second, but he destroyed me in third. An Eclipes GS, Z3, believe it or not, and a focus (non SVT). But I have the Coupe!
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what im trying to figure out is how does the corolla stack up against our cars... is the new VVT-i really good?
when does it kick in and stuff

should i go test drive a new corolla? and see for myself?

heres what i think will happen, hes gonna be off the line first... since its an automatic... but will i be able to catch up?
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If you know how to drive a stick you will be first off the line.
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I Think this will be a really close race. It would defenately go to the one that gets the best start.

Let us know how it goes.

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[hr]Originally posted by: vincenzobar
Why did you all get the Sedans. the coupe would destroy it (sort of). The sadan with the exhaust should win. Just make sure you get a good jump off the start so he can't kill you when you hit 3rd. Oh and red lind it in 1st. VTEC kicks in around 3500 so make sure when you shift to second you are still at VTEC. These cars suck in second otherwise. However 3rd, 4th, and 5th aren't bad for pickup in the Zones. I have much experience in this with my STOCK civic EX coupe. I have beatin' a 3000gt Off the line and in second, but he destroyed me in third. An Eclipes GS, Z3, believe it or not, and a focus (non SVT). But I have the Coupe![hr]
WTH did u do to ur car??? my vtec kicks in at 4500rpm
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because it is auto, u can probably edge him out. If it was stick, then you'd lose a good car or so.
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[hr]Originally posted by: vincenzobar
Why did you all get the Sedans. the coupe would destroy it (sort of). The sadan with the exhaust should win. Just make sure you get a good jump off the start so he can't kill you when you hit 3rd. Oh and red lind it in 1st. VTEC kicks in around 3500 so make sure when you shift to second you are still at VTEC. These cars suck in second otherwise. However 3rd, 4th, and 5th aren't bad for pickup in the Zones. I have much experience in this with my STOCK civic EX coupe. I have beatin' a 3000gt Off the line and in second, but he destroyed me in third. An Eclipes GS, Z3, believe it or not, and a focus (non SVT). But I have the Coupe![hr]
I always amazes how some people with coupes somehow believe they are faster than the sedan because they have 2 doors. Same car, the sedan just weighs 15lbs more....at least you are no longer ingnorant now...

As for the corolla s, since it is an auto, I think you would definately win. Now, if it was a corolla 5sp, you'd be in for a wee bit of trouble...

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ur not just saying that cuz u guys have civics right??? this is actually an impartial vote???
thanks for ur advice.. im gonna chanllenge him... hopefully he accepts...
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don't be a pansy, you should be able to smoke him, and if you don't its your own fault
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Like I said, you should be able to beat him simply because it's an auto. You have a huge advantage because you have a 5sp. Now, like I said, a corolla s 5sp would be a completely different story.

These 2 cars are pretty close performance wise with the edge going to the corolla s. If you get a good launch and take him off the line, you'll win. Neither car has enough power to overtake the other once it is behind.
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[hr]Compression Ratio 9.9:1 10:1[hr]
That 9.9:1 is the LX/DX... the EX VTEC has 11:1 compression.
Doubt it makes much difference, but just clarifying as not to confuse people.
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hehe..ive been trying to tell u that... its cuz u got 5 speed. just make sure u red line ur ride ... sure WIN!!
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u can beat him cuz the rolla is auto, otherwise u sucks driving stick, j/k, its a logic that a car with more hps/torque AND lighter is faster, but not a case where the Z compare to s2000[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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have alittle self confidence, grow some chest hairs..........and start punching that gear box!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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with stick you'll fo sho, my friends 2k1 civic si(ex) stick killed my friends 1999 rolla auto
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I ask about sedans becuase they look like you should be taking your kids to school and then getting groceries afterwards. NOT RACING. And 15lbs here and there makes a huge difference. They have a rear simularity to Volvo. As for the VTEC thing. My bad I typoed or brainfarted. I knew that, I sware. 4500 4500 4500 4500 4500 4500 4500 4500. There now it is engraved. No more mistakes.

I don't mean to hate on the 4 drs. but did you purposely buy them or were they gifted? Only thing I could think to do to a 4dr 2001 civic would be a IS300 conversion. Well Have fun with them. I wish you all the best in racing and styling.
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I got one as a rental and that corolla did not pick up at all. Sucked anus!!!
Civic all the way!!!
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[hr]Compression Ratio 9.9:1 10:1[hr]
That 9.9:1 is the LX/DX... the EX VTEC has 11:1 compression.
Doubt it makes much difference, but just clarifying as not to confuse people.[hr]
the EX doesn't have 11:1 compression...rather it has 9.9:1 read it straight from honda's mouth.

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I ask about sedans becuase they look like you should be taking your kids to school and then getting groceries afterwards. NOT RACING. And 15lbs here and there makes a huge difference. They have a rear simularity to Volvo. As for the VTEC thing. My bad I typoed or brainfarted. I knew that, I sware. 4500 4500 4500 4500 4500 4500 4500 4500. There now it is engraved. No more mistakes.

I don't mean to hate on the 4 drs. but did you purposely buy them or were they gifted? Only thing I could think to do to a 4dr 2001 civic would be a IS300 conversion. Well Have fun with them. I wish you all the best in racing and styling.[hr]
Oh, I got ya now. You think the coupe will "destroy" a sedan because you think the coupe looks better and thus, it must be more of a race car than the sedan.. [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

Looks are a subjective, NOT objective attributes. Personally, am not fond of the coupe's looks...so what?

15lbs is insignificant. The only way that 15lbs would really effect anything is if it was in the wheels. Seeing that the ex comes with the same wheels regardless of sedan/coupe, that 15lbs is meaningless.

Oh, and I bought my sedan. Yes, I do have a daughter...It's more practical for me.

Lastly, if you think the coupe is any more of a race car than sedan, I have a nice geo metro I'd like to sell ya...

civicsportscar is an oxymoron...
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