Type-R....Why not?
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[hr]Originally posted by: criminal
the real reason that we dont have the type r in america along with many of the other japanese cars in america is becuz those cars would compete too much with the american sport and muscle cars.....camaros and mustangs and such r way overpriced and their quality is nothing compared to the japanese....u can have the same power in one of thier cars as in something like a z28 or something for way less and u get more car.....america doesnt want the american market to be outdone.....gm and ford have too much power here and wont allow this to happen.....but the brightside is....there is hope becuz for the longest time we couldnt get a fullsize japanese truck in america but then we argued enuff and got the toyota tundra which is a v8 fullsize so there is hope for our desired cars too....just keep hope alive and fight the power[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: criminal
the real reason that we dont have the type r in america along with many of the other japanese cars in america is becuz those cars would compete too much with the american sport and muscle cars.....camaros and mustangs and such r way overpriced and their quality is nothing compared to the japanese....u can have the same power in one of thier cars as in something like a z28 or something for way less and u get more car.....america doesnt want the american market to be outdone.....gm and ford have too much power here and wont allow this to happen.....but the brightside is....there is hope becuz for the longest time we couldnt get a fullsize japanese truck in america but then we argued enuff and got the toyota tundra which is a v8 fullsize so there is hope for our desired cars too....just keep hope alive and fight the power[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: JoeB16
complaments of OSoSlo how does ford or gm tell honda what they can sell and what they can't sell in america? perhaps the reason beyond some perceived prejudice against japanese cars is that the type-r is a bit pricey for our market. according to honda.co.uk the civic type-r's base price is £15,995.00 ($25,056.12 given the current rate of 1gbp = 1.56650usd). according to honda.com.au the integra(rsx) type-r's base price is $43,990aud ($23,875.83 given the current rage of 1aud = 0.542756usd). granted exchange rate pricing isn't an accurate reflection of regional pricing, but it is a meter to what honda feels the car's value is and apparently honda feels the type-r is roughly a $25k car. at $25k that puts its price right out of the window for honda. hell the civic si at $19k is selling so little that honda dealers are marking them down. how well do you think a $25k civic is going to sell in america? an rsx type-s retails around $23k (right?) and i doubt honda is interested in marketing another rsx above the type-s for even more money. ($30k?) the reason that the type-r isn't in america has less to do with gm and ford and more to do with honda's business and marketing plans then anything else.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: JoeB16
complaments of OSoSlo how does ford or gm tell honda what they can sell and what they can't sell in america? perhaps the reason beyond some perceived prejudice against japanese cars is that the type-r is a bit pricey for our market. according to honda.co.uk the civic type-r's base price is £15,995.00 ($25,056.12 given the current rate of 1gbp = 1.56650usd). according to honda.com.au the integra(rsx) type-r's base price is $43,990aud ($23,875.83 given the current rage of 1aud = 0.542756usd). granted exchange rate pricing isn't an accurate reflection of regional pricing, but it is a meter to what honda feels the car's value is and apparently honda feels the type-r is roughly a $25k car. at $25k that puts its price right out of the window for honda. hell the civic si at $19k is selling so little that honda dealers are marking them down. how well do you think a $25k civic is going to sell in america? an rsx type-s retails around $23k (right?) and i doubt honda is interested in marketing another rsx above the type-s for even more money. ($30k?) the reason that the type-r isn't in america has less to do with gm and ford and more to do with honda's business and marketing plans then anything else.[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 Trust me. Type-R **WILL** be imported into North America.
Acura Integra Type-R did wonders for Honda's image--in fact, it's one of the poster child for the rice community. Every major media publications tested it, over and over again (translation: free publicity). Same reasonw they keep making NSXes, despite losing a lot of money on it every year.
Besides, they don't want to bring it out so soon. It would only eclipse the new Si (Canada-Spec SiR). And they didn't even bring THAT out right away. Auto manufactures release things one at a time, to keep the public interest boiling.
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...So honda hasnt brought the Accord R or CTR over for the past.. oh 8 years because they are "waiting"?
...So honda hasnt brought the Accord R or CTR over for the past.. oh 8 years because they are "waiting"?
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Rep Power: 0 Buddy, they don't exactly sell Accords as a "performance" car. They sell it to fight Camry for the #1 spot. They never plan onto bring the Accord Type-R here.
The reason why they have Acccord Type-Rs in Europe is because their consumers are much more into peformance image than North American consumers are. Compare the typical German sedan buyer vs a US sedan buyer.
Exactly.
But compact market is a little more compariable. In fact, each year, there are more people jumping on the "hot compact" market. Hence the reason why Ford, Mazda & Nissan are pumping out new limited ediiton high performance models.
Guess who's on the next list.
Why do you think they were late with the 6th Gen Si's? They had the engine, they had everything ready. They brought it out late to give life to an aging Civic line-up. Same with Type-Rs.
Why do you think M cars come late for BMWS? AMG for Benz? S for Porsche? They always arrive later. Same with convertibles... ie - Beetle, PT Cruiser... new niche market models always grace the cover pages. It's called marketing.
The reason why they have Acccord Type-Rs in Europe is because their consumers are much more into peformance image than North American consumers are. Compare the typical German sedan buyer vs a US sedan buyer.
Exactly.
But compact market is a little more compariable. In fact, each year, there are more people jumping on the "hot compact" market. Hence the reason why Ford, Mazda & Nissan are pumping out new limited ediiton high performance models.
Guess who's on the next list.
Why do you think they were late with the 6th Gen Si's? They had the engine, they had everything ready. They brought it out late to give life to an aging Civic line-up. Same with Type-Rs.
Why do you think M cars come late for BMWS? AMG for Benz? S for Porsche? They always arrive later. Same with convertibles... ie - Beetle, PT Cruiser... new niche market models always grace the cover pages. It's called marketing.
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Rep Power: 0 .... yea, thats why Nissans been pumping up their near luxary sedans (read maxima and altima) for the US market, with the likes of the Acura CL/TL-S', G35s', V6 6spd camrys and now the new 03 V6 6spd Accord coupe? Or perhaps the domestic side like the mercury marauder or SVT models of the contour & tarus? They are ALL waging war in that EXACT sales segment, upping BHP every year and now offering 6 spd MTs and "sport shift" 5 spd autos for each model.
Dood, did you trade your last clue in for a cookie or something? Because you seem to not to have one.
Dood, did you trade your last clue in for a cookie or something? Because you seem to not to have one.
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Maxima, Altima, TL, & CL are PROFIT CARS.. they are meant to sell LOTS. As in for profit. Niche cars, like SVT, Type-R, are low volume cars, with minimal or sometimes loss of profit... TO ENHANCE IMAGE.
It's the same reason why they partipate in RACES... it pumps up their image. Image sells cars. What people drive doesn't have to be a LeMan cars, or an Indy car. But as long as their company is able to make high performance race cars, people dig that s-hit.
Think about it. WHY did they import a limited # of Integra Type-Rs? Hell if they profited from every one of them, they would bring a lot more. Why did Ferrari make only 349 Enzos? Do you really think their bread and butter is from niche cars? Think again.
Maxima, Altima, TL, & CL are PROFIT CARS.. they are meant to sell LOTS. As in for profit. Niche cars, like SVT, Type-R, are low volume cars, with minimal or sometimes loss of profit... TO ENHANCE IMAGE.
It's the same reason why they partipate in RACES... it pumps up their image. Image sells cars. What people drive doesn't have to be a LeMan cars, or an Indy car. But as long as their company is able to make high performance race cars, people dig that s-hit.
Think about it. WHY did they import a limited # of Integra Type-Rs? Hell if they profited from every one of them, they would bring a lot more. Why did Ferrari make only 349 Enzos? Do you really think their bread and butter is from niche cars? Think again.
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Think about this. People on here even talk about Focus SVT and Sentra SE-Rs and Mazdaspeed Proteges... why? Does it grab attention? Damn right. But you tell me what sells more. The bland generic models--the modles that are mass produced, and makes money.
Not the limited 500 copies Mazdaspeed Proteges. But if they never came up with them, nobody CARES about those cars. Focus would not have made the cover of recent Car & Driver 4 years after its inital debut by making 5-door hatches. But limited SVT did just that.
If 170HP 6-Speed hatches were what everyone wanted, every Focus would be made that way.
Think about WHY they refresh designs every 2-3 years. To keep interest levels high.
The NEXT time you'll see a Civic even come CLOSE to gracing a cover, let alone stirr serious public interest, will be when the Type-R comes out. Trust me.
Think about this. People on here even talk about Focus SVT and Sentra SE-Rs and Mazdaspeed Proteges... why? Does it grab attention? Damn right. But you tell me what sells more. The bland generic models--the modles that are mass produced, and makes money.
Not the limited 500 copies Mazdaspeed Proteges. But if they never came up with them, nobody CARES about those cars. Focus would not have made the cover of recent Car & Driver 4 years after its inital debut by making 5-door hatches. But limited SVT did just that.
If 170HP 6-Speed hatches were what everyone wanted, every Focus would be made that way.
Think about WHY they refresh designs every 2-3 years. To keep interest levels high.
The NEXT time you'll see a Civic even come CLOSE to gracing a cover, let alone stirr serious public interest, will be when the Type-R comes out. Trust me.
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Rep Power: 0 No, I was hoping that you might understand low-brow internet humor, since you obviously are incapable of holding an intelegent conversation without contradicting your self or saying something so completly moronic, i cant help but laugh. Bottom line though, is you are wrong.
Just as the people who swore up and down I was full of it when I told them thhat Gude was crap, and they would be sorry for wasting their money on it, you too will be eating your words. Now shaadap bish, and let time prove you wrong.
Just as the people who swore up and down I was full of it when I told them thhat Gude was crap, and they would be sorry for wasting their money on it, you too will be eating your words. Now shaadap bish, and let time prove you wrong.
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Rep Power: 0 can you not read? acura already said no Type R is being imported [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG] you people amaze me all they are offering is a 4k package that comes with springs and shocks, some wheels and aero parts so yea once again NO TYPE R
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OH! but wait, thats not in the class of a CIVIC! I mean damn, with the market as is, I can see why they would not bring over the RSX-R, when they can have a $25K civic on the market! [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
... or is it that Honda is just waiting a few years to release the RSX-R in the US? .... Maybe after Nissan brings over that turbo Sylvia...
and coupe-
'bish please, take your AzN JDM jockin *** elsewhere, cause your misinformation is crap.
OH! but wait, thats not in the class of a CIVIC! I mean damn, with the market as is, I can see why they would not bring over the RSX-R, when they can have a $25K civic on the market! [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
... or is it that Honda is just waiting a few years to release the RSX-R in the US? .... Maybe after Nissan brings over that turbo Sylvia...
and coupe-
'bish please, take your AzN JDM jockin *** elsewhere, cause your misinformation is crap.
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R-Type minus 20 hp equals FP
Acura's RSX gets a handling and appearance package
Acura is tenuously joining the BMW M/Mercedes AMG tuner market with a new line of products badged under the Factory Performance name. First up is a handling package for the RSX Type-S that features stiffer "track-tuned" springs and shocks that lower the coupe by about 1 in., 17-in. lightwieght aluminum alloy wheels and 225/45VR17 tires, slotted brake rotors with performance pads and lower body cladding and the requisite boy-racer wing. Inside there's a billet aluminum shift **** and special Factory Performance badging with aluminum look interior trim. This is the home-market Honda Integra's Type-R handling package without the 220-hp engine. Acura says it has no plans to import the Type-R, so if you lust after that car you might consider springing for the $4800-plus dealer installation (estimated at six hours). Hurry: Only 1000 copies will be available the first year.
The package is well worth it, for the most part. Based on a slalom provided by Acura, the RSX Type-S FP has quicker turn-in than the stock setup with the body roll and impending oversteer of the stock RSX Type-S virtually gone. This sucker corners flat; slalom speeds increase substantially. Power is the same 200 hp from the 2.0L i-VTEC four.
FP's focus will be on handling improvements, at least for the time being. In coming years, expect more packages and products for pretty much the full Acura line, including the MDX, and probably a second package for the RSX that will offer suspension and brake mods without the rice-rocket look.
R-Type minus 20 hp equals FP
Acura's RSX gets a handling and appearance package
Acura is tenuously joining the BMW M/Mercedes AMG tuner market with a new line of products badged under the Factory Performance name. First up is a handling package for the RSX Type-S that features stiffer "track-tuned" springs and shocks that lower the coupe by about 1 in., 17-in. lightwieght aluminum alloy wheels and 225/45VR17 tires, slotted brake rotors with performance pads and lower body cladding and the requisite boy-racer wing. Inside there's a billet aluminum shift **** and special Factory Performance badging with aluminum look interior trim. This is the home-market Honda Integra's Type-R handling package without the 220-hp engine. Acura says it has no plans to import the Type-R, so if you lust after that car you might consider springing for the $4800-plus dealer installation (estimated at six hours). Hurry: Only 1000 copies will be available the first year.
The package is well worth it, for the most part. Based on a slalom provided by Acura, the RSX Type-S FP has quicker turn-in than the stock setup with the body roll and impending oversteer of the stock RSX Type-S virtually gone. This sucker corners flat; slalom speeds increase substantially. Power is the same 200 hp from the 2.0L i-VTEC four.
FP's focus will be on handling improvements, at least for the time being. In coming years, expect more packages and products for pretty much the full Acura line, including the MDX, and probably a second package for the RSX that will offer suspension and brake mods without the rice-rocket look.
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[hr]Originally posted by: SuperNegroAcura says it has no plans to import the Type-R[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: SuperNegroAcura says it has no plans to import the Type-R[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 There will be no Civic Type R. With sales of the Si being lackluster, and a possibility of the Integra/RSX-R not even being imported, dont expect to see the Civic Type R. Never has, and never will be. Start importing if you want one.
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Rep Power: 0 this is what im saying. too bad I had to beat *ahem* "people" with the stupid stick to make them understand.
