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Old Aug 29, 2002
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1.3 L 250 HP!!!!!!

For those of you who get Motor Trend, go to page 95 in the Oct issue. For those who don't.... The MAZDA RX-8 engine is a 1.3 L twin rotor Wankel engine that puts out 250 HP. Now, I don't understand the rotary engine concept, so if someone has a link to something that explains it, put it up, but HOLY SHIIT! That's a lot of power out of a tiny engine. Price is estimated at $30000, due for the 04 model year. Oh, and it looks exactly like the 350Z.

Oh and while we're on new cars... look at the rear quarter shot of the new BMW Z4, and tell me it doesn't look like the S2K.
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rotarys are low displacement but lots of power.

How a Rotary Engine works
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ROTARY ENGINES
tthe greatest thing mazda has ever came up with
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rotary is powerful..but hard to maintain...and not much ppl know how to fix them...
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Didnt get my new issue yet.
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[hr]Originally posted by: JoeyTStyleS
ROTARY ENGINES
tthe greatest thing mazda has ever came up with[hr]
mazda didn't invent it...the german's (Wankel) did...then they sold the design to mazda...[IMG]i/expressions/demon.gif[/IMG]
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it doesn't look like a 350Z at all!
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ROTARY ENGINES!!!

Rotary are amzing... 3 rotors is all needed... and when one fails..dun worry, it'still going... i think its the most durable and powerful engine on market...L to HP wise
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i believe from reading howstuffworks.com a while ago that rotory engines have very high HP, but low torque. They are very cool tho, and I'd get one if i had $30,000 and no car.
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ROTARY ENGINES!!!

Rotary are amzing... 3 rotors is all needed... and when one fails..dun worry, it'still going... i think its the most durable and powerful engine on market...L to HP wise[hr]
You can say the same about piston engines as well. I have a friend who is running on 2-cylinders right now [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG] You can get a really high power output from a small rotary engine. But rotaries haven't been embraced by many engine manufacturers, because they are not as fuel efficient and have worse emissions ratings than conventional piston engines.
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ROTARY ENGINES!!!

Rotary are amzing... 3 rotors is all needed... and when one fails..dun worry, it'still going... i think its the most durable and powerful engine on market...L to HP wise[hr]
You can say the same about piston engines as well. I have a friend who is running on 2-cylinders right now [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG] You can get a really high power output from a small rotary engine. But rotaries haven't been embraced by many engine manufacturers, because they are not as fuel efficient and have worse emissions ratings than conventional piston engines.[hr]
Not to mention that you have to get the engine re-built after so many miles!!!!!!

Also... HTown... how's the engine doin?
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Not to mention that you have to get the engine re-built after so many miles!!!!!![hr]
Where did you get that info from? They are just the same as any piston engine. I had mine with almost 160K original miles and my ex-roommates car has over 210K on it. Both have never been rebuilt.

Whoever said about the torque being low is right. Higher HP lower Torque. But look at the S2000, same thing. Wankel engines are the bomb. They are much simpler than piston engines and weigh much less. Less moving parts to break.

Little known fact: The reason there was no 1983 Corvette was because they were going to introduce a Wankel engine and backed out. They had no time to make any cars for that model year so introduced a redesign the following year. The engine was going to be a 4 Rotor engine. WOW...The 20B is awesome, I can't imagine something with 4 rotors.

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From what I recall of rotary engines, its different from internal combustion engines in that it only has 3 cycles. Also, rotary engines are high reving since one revoultion from a rotary engine is equivalent of 3 revs from a normal engine. I know its something like that heh.
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[hr]Challenges
There are some challenges in designing a rotary engine:


Typically, it is more difficult (but not impossible) to make a rotary engine meet U.S. emissions regulations.

The manufacturing costs can be higher, mostly because the number of these engines produced is not as high as the number of piston engines.

They typically consume more fuel than a piston engine because the thermodynamic efficiency of the engine is reduced by the long combustion-chamber shape and low compression ratio. [hr]
that thing on howstuffworks.com was quite informative...i didnt know how a rotary worked. but im wondering, if you increase the compression ratio, will that reduce the amount of fuel needed and in turn make emissions better? i dont know, im just asking. i dont even know how you would increase the compression ratio while keeping all other factors the same, but if its possible then what would be the result? i mean physics states that for every action theres an equal and oposite reaction. will the temperature go up because of the increased pressure?
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The RX-8 is a beautiful piece of machinery. I plan on getting one shortly after I graduate college. Also some facts for yall: It is rumored that Mazdaspeed will introduce either a 3-rotor or a turboed version of the Renesis engine. Also (last I knew) it's max hp was going to be available around 7500-8000 rpm, while it's weight is proposed to be under 3000 lbs. Granted it may not have very much torque, but it's weight should be able to make a good off the line-
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