swapping a k20 is easier now?
08-27-2002
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swapping a k20 is easier now?
i was reading in the latest honda tuning mag and they said that all we need to do is use the rsx subframe and stuff. does that mean no custom motor mounts needed?maybe htown's civic had to get the rsx subframe too? i dunno...
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[hr]Originally posted by: civichx81
about 10,000 bucks or more i think.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: civichx81
about 10,000 bucks or more i think.[hr]
if i wanted that engine bad enough i would trade in my car. rofl 
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[hr]Originally posted by: civichx81
i was reading in the latest honda tuning mag and they said that all we need to do is use the rsx subframe and stuff. does that mean no custom motor mounts needed?maybe htown's civic had to get the rsx subframe too? i dunno...[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: civichx81
i was reading in the latest honda tuning mag and they said that all we need to do is use the rsx subframe and stuff. does that mean no custom motor mounts needed?maybe htown's civic had to get the rsx subframe too? i dunno...[hr]
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I think htown got the K20a2 for $6000 from ebay
$2000 worth of parts from the dealer
and the remaining $2000 went to other aftermarket parts and labor.
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[hr]Originally posted by: civichx81
about 10,000 bucks or more i think.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: civichx81
about 10,000 bucks or more i think.[hr]
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"do you know how much it cost to get the k20 swap for htown?? i am fixin to do this to mine, the second 2k1!!!! "
yeah, estimate was around $10k... including the engine, parts, labor...etc.
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Rep Power: 0 I couldn't really see any reason to justify a swap. I don't know, maybe if you love your car to death or something. Otherwise, it's just cheaper to buy the engine wrapped in the car it was put in at the factory.
For 6-8 grand, I could be sitting in an rsx-s. I'd have a nicer car and a ba engine.
For 6-8 grand, I could be sitting in an rsx-s. I'd have a nicer car and a ba engine.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
I couldn't really see any reason to justify a swap. I don't know, maybe if you love your car to death or something. Otherwise, it's just cheaper to buy the engine wrapped in the car it was put in at the factory.
For 6-8 grand, I could be sitting in an rsx-s. I'd have a nicer car and a ba engine.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
I couldn't really see any reason to justify a swap. I don't know, maybe if you love your car to death or something. Otherwise, it's just cheaper to buy the engine wrapped in the car it was put in at the factory.
For 6-8 grand, I could be sitting in an rsx-s. I'd have a nicer car and a ba engine.[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: civichx81
would it be more inexpensive to get a bseries and drop it in our civics?[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: civichx81
would it be more inexpensive to get a bseries and drop it in our civics?[hr]
The B-series motor is also physically larger than the D17A2 or K20A2, so you'll be looking at a VERY cramped engine bay. Not sure if there's room for a decent sized turbo in that setup.
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[hr]Originally posted by: civichx81
i was reading in the latest honda tuning mag and they said that all we need to do is use the rsx subframe and stuff. does that mean no custom motor mounts needed?maybe htown's civic had to get the rsx subframe too? i dunno...[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: civichx81
i was reading in the latest honda tuning mag and they said that all we need to do is use the rsx subframe and stuff. does that mean no custom motor mounts needed?maybe htown's civic had to get the rsx subframe too? i dunno...[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 Just to set the record straight - I keep seeing people throw around the number $10k like it's written in stone or something. Keep in mind that we were forced to buy several brand new Honda OEM parts (radiator, axle, crossmember, etc.) which cost A LOT. The axle alone set us back $600. Someone with access to used RSX parts should be able to do this swap for considerably cheaper.
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[hr]Originally posted by: htowncivicEX
A B18C1 or B18C5 will run you about $5-6k, more or less the same price as a used K20A2. Plus it will probably have a whole lot more mileage and wear than a RSX-S motor. You would still have to make subframe modifications to get the thing to fit, but according to IB you should be able to use the existing motor mounts.
The B-series motor is also physically larger than the D17A2 or K20A2, so you'll be looking at a VERY cramped engine bay. Not sure if there's room for a decent sized turbo in that setup.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: htowncivicEX
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[hr]Originally posted by: civichx81
would it be more inexpensive to get a bseries and drop it in our civics?[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: civichx81
would it be more inexpensive to get a bseries and drop it in our civics?[hr]
The B-series motor is also physically larger than the D17A2 or K20A2, so you'll be looking at a VERY cramped engine bay. Not sure if there's room for a decent sized turbo in that setup.[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: HondaLuver
just make sure that the engine is made the same year as your car or it is illegal[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: HondaLuver
just make sure that the engine is made the same year as your car or it is illegal[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 The prices at Hondamotorsonline.com seem really really low. I would check up on the mileage of these motors, because I have yet to see a B18C1 with less than 50,000 miles on it go for less than $4500 to $5k. A low mileage B18C5 is virtually always in the $5-6k range.
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[hr]Originally posted by: NBPCivic
Uhh....the B18C1 is 3300 plus shipping and the B18C5 is 4800 plus shipping at hondamotorsonline.com Not sure where you got your price quotes. I am only pointing this out due to the fact that it makes the B series swap much more appealing.[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: htowncivicEX
A B18C1 or B18C5 will run you about $5-6k, more or less the same price as a used K20A2. Plus it will probably have a whole lot more mileage and wear than a RSX-S motor. You would still have to make subframe modifications to get the thing to fit, but according to IB you should be able to use the existing motor mounts.
The B-series motor is also physically larger than the D17A2 or K20A2, so you'll be looking at a VERY cramped engine bay. Not sure if there's room for a decent sized turbo in that setup.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: htowncivicEX
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[hr]Originally posted by: civichx81
would it be more inexpensive to get a bseries and drop it in our civics?[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: civichx81
would it be more inexpensive to get a bseries and drop it in our civics?[hr]
The B-series motor is also physically larger than the D17A2 or K20A2, so you'll be looking at a VERY cramped engine bay. Not sure if there's room for a decent sized turbo in that setup.[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: htowncivicEX
You're going to have to use different motor mounts for sure, your stock mounts will not fit a K20A2. This means making your own mounts, or waiting for HASport's kit to be released.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: htowncivicEX
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[hr]Originally posted by: civichx81
i was reading in the latest honda tuning mag and they said that all we need to do is use the rsx subframe and stuff. does that mean no custom motor mounts needed?maybe htown's civic had to get the rsx subframe too? i dunno...[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: civichx81
i was reading in the latest honda tuning mag and they said that all we need to do is use the rsx subframe and stuff. does that mean no custom motor mounts needed?maybe htown's civic had to get the rsx subframe too? i dunno...[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: WhiteRiceBoi
Also at this point there is a slew of Japanese and American aftermarket perfomance parts for the B18 series motor, while the market is still much or less barren for the K20 engines, maybe ina few years it'll catch up to the B engine, so for now it is much easier to get ponies out fo a B series motor, I did a virtual tune for the civic, to make it a hardcore racing machine with full engine upgrades, suspension, transmission, turbo, etc and it ended up being baout 34,000 with labor, thats quite a big chunk of change, but I'm sure for just a swap of the stock B18C motor and tranny would be close to 9-10k with labor and parts.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: WhiteRiceBoi
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[hr]Originally posted by: NBPCivic
Uhh....the B18C1 is 3300 plus shipping and the B18C5 is 4800 plus shipping at hondamotorsonline.com Not sure where you got your price quotes. I am only pointing this out due to the fact that it makes the B series swap much more appealing.[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: htowncivicEX
A B18C1 or B18C5 will run you about $5-6k, more or less the same price as a used K20A2. Plus it will probably have a whole lot more mileage and wear than a RSX-S motor. You would still have to make subframe modifications to get the thing to fit, but according to IB you should be able to use the existing motor mounts.
The B-series motor is also physically larger than the D17A2 or K20A2, so you'll be looking at a VERY cramped engine bay. Not sure if there's room for a decent sized turbo in that setup.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: htowncivicEX
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[hr]Originally posted by: civichx81
would it be more inexpensive to get a bseries and drop it in our civics?[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: civichx81
would it be more inexpensive to get a bseries and drop it in our civics?[hr]
The B-series motor is also physically larger than the D17A2 or K20A2, so you'll be looking at a VERY cramped engine bay. Not sure if there's room for a decent sized turbo in that setup.[hr]
The K-series motor is the future. It will be everything the legendary B-series motor was, and much more.
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[hr]Originally posted by: htowncivicEX
The prices at Hondamotorsonline.com seem really really low. I would check up on the mileage of these motors, because I have yet to see a B18C1 with less than 50,000 miles on it go for less than $4500 to $5k. A low mileage B18C5 is virtually always in the $5-6k range.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: htowncivicEX
The prices at Hondamotorsonline.com seem really really low. I would check up on the mileage of these motors, because I have yet to see a B18C1 with less than 50,000 miles on it go for less than $4500 to $5k. A low mileage B18C5 is virtually always in the $5-6k range.[hr]
and the B18C5's have around 17K
That is what they told me in email.
I have also read many quality reviews of that store and the product they sell both online and through people I know.
If anyone is looking for a swap that is the place to go.
I agree that the K series is the future but by the time it catches up to the support for the B series, my Civic will be long gone.
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Rep Power: 0 The Hasport kit will run around $650 and contain 3 mounts and two brackets. Here is a list of the other parts you will need. This parts list is preliminary and is most likely incomplete. It will give you a rough idea of what will be needed for the swap.
RSX ECU, tranny and engine with engine accessories and wiring harness
02 Civic Si axles (unless you plan on using RSX hubs)
RSX subframe
RSX lower control arms
RSX shifter and cables
RSX throttle cable
RSX heater hoses
RSX radiator with fans and hoses
If you want P/S, you will need the return lines, cooler and resevoir from the RSX the high pressure line will have to be made.
If you want AC, some of the lines will have to be made.
There will be another more complete list on our web site once the swap mounts are ready for sale.
brian g
RSX ECU, tranny and engine with engine accessories and wiring harness
02 Civic Si axles (unless you plan on using RSX hubs)
RSX subframe
RSX lower control arms
RSX shifter and cables
RSX throttle cable
RSX heater hoses
RSX radiator with fans and hoses
If you want P/S, you will need the return lines, cooler and resevoir from the RSX the high pressure line will have to be made.
If you want AC, some of the lines will have to be made.
There will be another more complete list on our web site once the swap mounts are ready for sale.
brian g
