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FYI,
At some point, I remember buying lots of Mobil 1 5W-20 with P.A.O stated on the bottle but they changes their formulation for sure... to the cheaper hydrocracked (Gas to Liquid process or Group III)
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...Base_Oils.aspx
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Mineral_Oil_Question.aspx
In short, they know how to make (more) money or Additives are more important than based oil
At some point, I remember buying lots of Mobil 1 5W-20 with P.A.O stated on the bottle but they changes their formulation for sure... to the cheaper hydrocracked (Gas to Liquid process or Group III)
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...Base_Oils.aspx
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Mineral_Oil_Question.aspx
In short, they know how to make (more) money or Additives are more important than based oil
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here is an interesting fact, redline is the only oil approved for use in jet engines. but when it comes down to it, your engine will still go more miles on dino with 5k changes than you will keep the car for. most people dont keep their cars past 500k miles and by then the rest of the car is trashed anyway. way back in the old days i wouldve bought the whole "dino oil sucks" argument but even those oils are very good today as a result of the improved refining process. yes you prolly will feel some sort of improvement switching from dino to a full syn, but nothing that will make or break the engine or magically give it more hp. only reason i use redline (with LC20) is its available local and i hate doing oil changes more than once a year. I doubt you could tell between a group III and IV or V synthetic either. my engine has 100k on it and i switched to redline about 6 months ago. no leaks that appeared after that, altho i did have a leak when using 5w20 dino oil. 5w30 dino and now synthetic is not leaking anymore.
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Running Riot, you're such a riot. I am kiddin'
Alright, you are asking a lots
but i'll try my best to explain them.
Synthetic Oil will leak? without additives added to the synthetic based oil yes it will shrink the seal. I'll get to that.
What consider true synthetic group IV and group V based oil. It's human made by compressing methane gas or what ever. The chemists did that.
Group IV PAO stands for Poly-alpha-olefin is used by lots AMSOIL is one of them.
Group V ester based - Redline for instance.
I am not sure if ester based will cause the seal shrinkage or not but some claimed it will cause the swollen to the seal. This one I have no answer to that. In contradiction, the poly alpha olefin based will cause the shrinkage of the seal. If you have an old car which the seal is not good and you pour the synthetic in there, it might break the seal even more. Now you can see the picture.REFERENCE TO PDF
Look under seal compatibility section of the document.
To me, dino(saur) oil (I love this word) or crude oil may contain lots of impurities that it cannot isolate it out like wax and etc compare to the synthetic oil which the manufacturer process is control so I think more purify.
Slippery or not? Yes both are slippery, they are all hydrocarbons anyway. The crude oil are longer chain hydrocarbon and refinery will crack the long chain into shorter chain. I do not think slippery is good word to compare. It doesn't provide any measurable.
In term of reducing friction or in your understanding, I think they put lots of additives into motor oil to reduce friction between the pistons and cylinders. Molybdenum is one of the key to reduce friction since the moly will fill cylinder wall's micro pores and smooth them out hence it reduce friction. However, I will ask my Organic Chemistry tomorrow about the slippery between synthetic and dino.
But my guess, the longer chain of hydrocarbons the more viscosity. I hope this should answer your questions.
READ MORE HERE
VERY GOOD PRESENTATION BETWEEN GROUPS II III IV
MOTOR OIL Good one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocracking
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Ester in lubricant
Alright, you are asking a lots
but i'll try my best to explain them.Synthetic Oil will leak? without additives added to the synthetic based oil yes it will shrink the seal. I'll get to that.
What consider true synthetic group IV and group V based oil. It's human made by compressing methane gas or what ever. The chemists did that.
Group IV PAO stands for Poly-alpha-olefin is used by lots AMSOIL is one of them.
Group V ester based - Redline for instance.
I am not sure if ester based will cause the seal shrinkage or not but some claimed it will cause the swollen to the seal. This one I have no answer to that. In contradiction, the poly alpha olefin based will cause the shrinkage of the seal. If you have an old car which the seal is not good and you pour the synthetic in there, it might break the seal even more. Now you can see the picture.REFERENCE TO PDF
Look under seal compatibility section of the document.
To me, dino(saur) oil (I love this word) or crude oil may contain lots of impurities that it cannot isolate it out like wax and etc compare to the synthetic oil which the manufacturer process is control so I think more purify.
Slippery or not? Yes both are slippery, they are all hydrocarbons anyway. The crude oil are longer chain hydrocarbon and refinery will crack the long chain into shorter chain. I do not think slippery is good word to compare. It doesn't provide any measurable.
In term of reducing friction or in your understanding, I think they put lots of additives into motor oil to reduce friction between the pistons and cylinders. Molybdenum is one of the key to reduce friction since the moly will fill cylinder wall's micro pores and smooth them out hence it reduce friction. However, I will ask my Organic Chemistry tomorrow about the slippery between synthetic and dino.
But my guess, the longer chain of hydrocarbons the more viscosity. I hope this should answer your questions.
READ MORE HERE
VERY GOOD PRESENTATION BETWEEN GROUPS II III IV
MOTOR OIL Good one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocracking
Synthetic oil
Ester in lubricant
You have a much more in depth scientific understanding behind our choice of lubricating hydrocarbons and I yield that to you without an argument, but I'm still standing by my opinion that in modern civics meaning 88+ i have not personally seen any car that began leaking because the driver switched. There may be a correlation between when the seals began leaking and the mileage of the vehicle and someone assumed that was a coincidence?
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here is an interesting fact, redline is the only oil approved for use in jet engines. but when it comes down to it, your engine will still go more miles on dino with 5k changes than you will keep the car for. most people dont keep their cars past 500k miles and by then the rest of the car is trashed anyway. way back in the old days i wouldve bought the whole "dino oil sucks" argument but even those oils are very good today as a result of the improved refining process. yes you prolly will feel some sort of improvement switching from dino to a full syn, but nothing that will make or break the engine or magically give it more hp. only reason i use redline (with LC20) is its available local and i hate doing oil changes more than once a year. I doubt you could tell between a group III and IV or V synthetic either. my engine has 100k on it and i switched to redline about 6 months ago. no leaks that appeared after that, altho i did have a leak when using 5w20 dino oil. 5w30 dino and now synthetic is not leaking anymore.
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A buddy of mine uses extremely viscous diesel oil in his jeep and absolutely loves it, I've been hesitant about trying it in my Civic though. I might need to try it though, since you're having good results with it on a similar engine.
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here is an interesting fact, redline is the only oil approved for use in jet engines. but when it comes down to it, your engine will still go more miles on dino with 5k changes than you will keep the car for. most people dont keep their cars past 500k miles and by then the rest of the car is trashed anyway. way back in the old days i wouldve bought the whole "dino oil sucks" argument but even those oils are very good today as a result of the improved refining process. yes you prolly will feel some sort of improvement switching from dino to a full syn, but nothing that will make or break the engine or magically give it more hp. only reason i use redline (with LC20) is its available local and i hate doing oil changes more than once a year. I doubt you could tell between a group III and IV or V synthetic either. my engine has 100k on it and i switched to redline about 6 months ago. no leaks that appeared after that, altho i did have a leak when using 5w20 dino oil. 5w30 dino and now synthetic is not leaking anymore.
I love to try new stuff now I can say that I am impressed with the Castrol EDGE. I bought it at $5 at O'Reilly Auto and at that time it came with Mobil 1 Filter also. I can't resist the Good Deal. ei ei
thats interesting stuff thanks for the info I got some homework to do tonight. I only used to word slippery because thats what the poster before me did. I was just trying to make the point that it isn't whether the oil is synthetic or conventional viscosity is viscosity.
You have a much more in depth scientific understanding behind our choice of lubricating hydrocarbons and I yield that to you without an argument, but I'm still standing by my opinion that in modern civics meaning 88+ i have not personally seen any car that began leaking because the driver switched. There may be a correlation between when the seals began leaking and the mileage of the vehicle and someone assumed that was a coincidence?
You have a much more in depth scientific understanding behind our choice of lubricating hydrocarbons and I yield that to you without an argument, but I'm still standing by my opinion that in modern civics meaning 88+ i have not personally seen any car that began leaking because the driver switched. There may be a correlation between when the seals began leaking and the mileage of the vehicle and someone assumed that was a coincidence?
I used Castrol Syntec in my Ford Escort 96. There was no leaks spotted. but, that was less than a year since the engine died on me at 11 months. From that incident, I concluded that an abusive driver is more dangerous than a Synthetic oil. Please, use with confidence.
anybody try ENEOS oil its only five something at napa.
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i pay $50 a year for a single redline oil change and a really good oil filter. most people i know pay $200 a year for generic dino oil change and garbage filter. to me its worth it, and i bet my engine is in better shape too.
as for using diesel in a civic, i wouldnt do it. im sure the oil is very good, but anything above 30 weight and you are gonna start feeling real power loss because the engine has to work harder trying to move that thicker oil. when you only have 90hp to start, this can become a real problem. i also think anything less than a 30 weight will not do much other than cause higher engine wear and leaks. i have a feeling honda will regret recommending 0w20 for their newer civics in the future. i know my 2002 civic had all sorts of issues running on 5w20 that were completely fixed using 5w30.
as for using diesel in a civic, i wouldnt do it. im sure the oil is very good, but anything above 30 weight and you are gonna start feeling real power loss because the engine has to work harder trying to move that thicker oil. when you only have 90hp to start, this can become a real problem. i also think anything less than a 30 weight will not do much other than cause higher engine wear and leaks. i have a feeling honda will regret recommending 0w20 for their newer civics in the future. i know my 2002 civic had all sorts of issues running on 5w20 that were completely fixed using 5w30.
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i pay $50 a year for a single redline oil change and a really good oil filter. most people i know pay $200 a year for generic dino oil change and garbage filter. to me its worth it, and i bet my engine is in better shape too.
as for using diesel in a civic, i wouldnt do it. im sure the oil is very good, but anything above 30 weight and you are gonna start feeling real power loss because the engine has to work harder trying to move that thicker oil. when you only have 90hp to start, this can become a real problem. i also think anything less than a 30 weight will not do much other than cause higher engine wear and leaks. i have a feeling honda will regret recommending 0w20 for their newer civics in the future. i know my 2002 civic had all sorts of issues running on 5w20 that were completely fixed using 5w30.
as for using diesel in a civic, i wouldnt do it. im sure the oil is very good, but anything above 30 weight and you are gonna start feeling real power loss because the engine has to work harder trying to move that thicker oil. when you only have 90hp to start, this can become a real problem. i also think anything less than a 30 weight will not do much other than cause higher engine wear and leaks. i have a feeling honda will regret recommending 0w20 for their newer civics in the future. i know my 2002 civic had all sorts of issues running on 5w20 that were completely fixed using 5w30.
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That's one of the purpose of using Synthetic. : ) great.
Talking about 0W-20, You will hear D17A1 screaming loud in the very cold morning day. I used Mobil 0W-20 back in 2004 and I don't like it at all because too thin and Mobil discontinued that old formulation. Actually, I like 5w-30 a lot. It has more to choose. I am a big fan of AMSOIL 5W-30 signature.
i pay $50 a year for a single redline oil change and a really good oil filter. most people i know pay $200 a year for generic dino oil change and garbage filter. to me its worth it, and i bet my engine is in better shape too.
Talking about 0W-20, You will hear D17A1 screaming loud in the very cold morning day. I used Mobil 0W-20 back in 2004 and I don't like it at all because too thin and Mobil discontinued that old formulation. Actually, I like 5w-30 a lot. It has more to choose. I am a big fan of AMSOIL 5W-30 signature.
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5w30 is the best all around oil for power, mileage, and engine wear. i would recommend it for any civic engine old or new.
as for the whole "green" movement thing going on, its just about making money not saving the planet. im an environmental biologist and even i dont buy into it.
as for the whole "green" movement thing going on, its just about making money not saving the planet. im an environmental biologist and even i dont buy into it.
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I use 0W-20 or 0W-30, whichever is available in whatever brand decides to make it that year. The one time I let someone else do the oil change, they used 5W-20 (grrr!) and I definitely noticed a slight mileage reduction on my hybrid.
Perhaps it's my area, but I rarely find more than one brand of 0W available, and often not all 4 stores in my area (AutoZone, NAPA, O'Reilly's, Advance) will have it available at any given time. For the longest time I would have to call NAPA and have them order me a case, but it's gotten a little more common since then. (Last case I actually bought because Advance was having a SALE on 0W-20 -woohoo!)
I usually use a Mobil1 or NAPA-brand filter, though I used to use the el-cheapo Frams in my old truck for years and years and never once had a problem with them. The Frams had one nice advantage (besides being cheaper than dirt) - the bottom of that truck would get all kinds of filthy, but it's never hard to locate a BRIGHT ORANGE fram filter. ;p
The real question is how many of those #@#%$! plastic pop rivets do y'all go through, or is it just me that breaks one every other oil change???
Perhaps it's my area, but I rarely find more than one brand of 0W available, and often not all 4 stores in my area (AutoZone, NAPA, O'Reilly's, Advance) will have it available at any given time. For the longest time I would have to call NAPA and have them order me a case, but it's gotten a little more common since then. (Last case I actually bought because Advance was having a SALE on 0W-20 -woohoo!)
I usually use a Mobil1 or NAPA-brand filter, though I used to use the el-cheapo Frams in my old truck for years and years and never once had a problem with them. The Frams had one nice advantage (besides being cheaper than dirt) - the bottom of that truck would get all kinds of filthy, but it's never hard to locate a BRIGHT ORANGE fram filter. ;p
The real question is how many of those #@#%$! plastic pop rivets do y'all go through, or is it just me that breaks one every other oil change???
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There are many good oils. The important thing is removing dirt, by changing oil frequently and keeping dirt out, by replacing the air filter frequently. I like Castrol, Pennzoil, Mobil, and Valvoline. If my budget is tight, conventional has served well. If I have extra money, I sometimes buy synthetic. When I raced a YZ125 in synthetic, the piston ring seemed to last longer. Go with what your owner's manual says.
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There are many good oils. The important thing is removing dirt, by changing oil frequently and keeping dirt out, by replacing the air filter frequently. I like Castrol, Pennzoil, Mobil, and Valvoline. If my budget is tight, conventional has served well. If I have extra money, I sometimes buy synthetic. When I raced a YZ125 in synthetic, the piston ring seemed to last longer. Go with what your owner's manual says.
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owners manual says to use Honda Genuine Oil..... WTF is that?! Its for tossers and shapeshaggers I say. Load of bollocks mate and all that *****. Why can't they just say "hey we recommend you use _____ brand oil" you buy a corvette and they say hey we used mobil1 as factory fill. Why can't Honda do the same?!
I believe all oil is pretty much similar in the sense that engine wear would not be affected drasticly between brands.
Synthetic can just go longer and may help reduce wear, but thats not why I use it.
Changing your oil at the proper time periods has an 1000x more effect then what type oil you use.
Changing your oil at 3000-5000k with an off brand oil at cosco is better then changing Mobil1 at every 50k is all I am trying to say
Just my opinion. I use Mobil1 synthetic.
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okay if it makes you feel better, honda recommends kendall synthetic blend or full synthetic (depending on engine).
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honda oil = kendall now. thats the brand they switched to recently at all dealers (in the black bottles). used to be mobil1. they have both semi syn and full syn depending on the car or truck.
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It almost sounds to me like honda just recommends whatever company offered them a better contract....? like they tell us in the Marines, remember that your weapon was built by the lowest bidder...
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Take it from me i work at Mr. Lube one of the largest oil change places in Canada
Here are the facts
If you are an average driver never beat on your car always baby it and are consistent on 5000 kms than conventional is just fine.
EX: castrol gtx, mobil 1000 etc. all of these oils are good try to avoid brands like motomaster and cheap recycled oils these are no good
If you go over on oil changes have higher than 120000kms or you drive your car a little harder from time to time then i would use a semi-synthetic oil
EX: Royal Purple- yes royal purple is only a synthetic blend not a true synthetic and thus what is the point using it considering the price
castrol highmileage and mobil super 2000 oils are what i would recommend
If you are meticulous about your car you drive it hard or you just want the best oils then you want synthetic there are two types of synthetic oils
Type 3(stage 3): Mobil 1, Castrol Syntec, Quaker state and Penzoil Synthetics are in this category Great oil lasts but there is even better
Type 4(stage 4): Castrol Edge, Amz Oil, Motul and other brands
I prefer to use motul 5w30 in my civic em2 slightly thicker with synthetic can be better but idealy 0w30 would be better
I would never advise running heavy duty diesel oil in any gasoline engine they have different additive sets than oil for gasoline motors and clog cats run 15w40 conventional or 10w40 both of these oils are better than heavy duty diesel oil
Take your pick but these are the facts about the oil if anyone has questions feel free to message me
Here are the facts
If you are an average driver never beat on your car always baby it and are consistent on 5000 kms than conventional is just fine.
EX: castrol gtx, mobil 1000 etc. all of these oils are good try to avoid brands like motomaster and cheap recycled oils these are no good
If you go over on oil changes have higher than 120000kms or you drive your car a little harder from time to time then i would use a semi-synthetic oil
EX: Royal Purple- yes royal purple is only a synthetic blend not a true synthetic and thus what is the point using it considering the price
castrol highmileage and mobil super 2000 oils are what i would recommend
If you are meticulous about your car you drive it hard or you just want the best oils then you want synthetic there are two types of synthetic oils
Type 3(stage 3): Mobil 1, Castrol Syntec, Quaker state and Penzoil Synthetics are in this category Great oil lasts but there is even better
Type 4(stage 4): Castrol Edge, Amz Oil, Motul and other brands
I prefer to use motul 5w30 in my civic em2 slightly thicker with synthetic can be better but idealy 0w30 would be better
I would never advise running heavy duty diesel oil in any gasoline engine they have different additive sets than oil for gasoline motors and clog cats run 15w40 conventional or 10w40 both of these oils are better than heavy duty diesel oil
Take your pick but these are the facts about the oil if anyone has questions feel free to message me
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I would never advise running heavy duty diesel oil in any gasoline engine they have different additive sets than oil for gasoline motors and clog cats run 15w40 conventional or 10w40 both of these oils are better than heavy duty diesel oil
Take your pick but these are the facts about the oil if anyone has questions feel free to message me
No emissions FTW. Modern diesel oils are also required to clean out additional sulfur and other NOx emissions that kill catalytics as increased emissions on passenger diesels require them to pass emissions tests as well. And I disagree on conventional oil being better than diesel oil for obvious reasons diesel engine require much greater protection and lubrication than gasoline engines. Much greater cleaning agents as well.
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guys.... you know there is very little difference between "diesel" and the regular conventional oil (to a point)....
diesel oil has a few less properties like they are not "energy conserving" like most the oils we use for our car.
from what ive seen and read, your scope is very limited.
for example, shell rotella oil is originally made for big *** diesel engines. it is arguably one of the best oil (BITOG will confirm it, search) you can use for ur diesel engine OR car.
many many people with high end cars use it because the oil (though only a groupIII) holds up very well.
and most of all, thousands of motorcycle owners (including myself) use it on their bikes (because it is a not a energy conserving oil and wont make the bikes wet-clutch slip)
diesel oil has a few less properties like they are not "energy conserving" like most the oils we use for our car.
from what ive seen and read, your scope is very limited.
for example, shell rotella oil is originally made for big *** diesel engines. it is arguably one of the best oil (BITOG will confirm it, search) you can use for ur diesel engine OR car.
many many people with high end cars use it because the oil (though only a groupIII) holds up very well.
and most of all, thousands of motorcycle owners (including myself) use it on their bikes (because it is a not a energy conserving oil and wont make the bikes wet-clutch slip)
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guys.... you know there is very little difference between "diesel" and the regular conventional oil (to a point)....
diesel oil has a few less properties like they are not "energy conserving" like most the oils we use for our car.
from what ive seen and read, your scope is very limited.
for example, shell rotella oil is originally made for big *** diesel engines. it is arguably one of the best oil (BITOG will confirm it, search) you can use for ur diesel engine OR car.
many many people with high end cars use it because the oil (though only a groupIII) holds up very well.
and most of all, thousands of motorcycle owners (including myself) use it on their bikes (because it is a not a energy conserving oil and wont make the bikes wet-clutch slip)
diesel oil has a few less properties like they are not "energy conserving" like most the oils we use for our car.
from what ive seen and read, your scope is very limited.
for example, shell rotella oil is originally made for big *** diesel engines. it is arguably one of the best oil (BITOG will confirm it, search) you can use for ur diesel engine OR car.
many many people with high end cars use it because the oil (though only a groupIII) holds up very well.
and most of all, thousands of motorcycle owners (including myself) use it on their bikes (because it is a not a energy conserving oil and wont make the bikes wet-clutch slip)
I found good deal at Meijer all the time but I was very concerned : D and yes BITOGers seems to worship this Rotella so much.
When I was in Thailand, I like to use SHELL HELIX Full Synthetic. I think it's group III : ( but I can feel the power like gearbox said ei ei.
gearbox,
I think when you meantion about Maxlife Full synthetic. I found it at Meijer also except they don't carry the 5W-20. I do not even know if the 5W-20 Maxlife Full syn exists or not. I'll check the web.
I might have to create a thread and post some good deal about motor oil, rebates. The oil company runs rebates all the time.
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the 5w20 exists, usually most places only stock 5w30 oils tho. but eventually more new cars will be calling for 5w20 and they will stock more brands. i think if your engine is in good shape and no leaks, the maxlife isnt that necessary.
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sl33pyriceboi,
I found good deal at Meijer all the time but I was very concerned : D and yes BITOGers seems to worship this Rotella so much.
When I was in Thailand, I like to use SHELL HELIX Full Synthetic. I think it's group III : ( but I can feel the power like gearbox said ei ei.
gearbox,
I think when you meantion about Maxlife Full synthetic. I found it at Meijer also except they don't carry the 5W-20. I do not even know if the 5W-20 Maxlife Full syn exists or not. I'll check the web.
I might have to create a thread and post some good deal about motor oil, rebates. The oil company runs rebates all the time.
I found good deal at Meijer all the time but I was very concerned : D and yes BITOGers seems to worship this Rotella so much.
When I was in Thailand, I like to use SHELL HELIX Full Synthetic. I think it's group III : ( but I can feel the power like gearbox said ei ei.
gearbox,
I think when you meantion about Maxlife Full synthetic. I found it at Meijer also except they don't carry the 5W-20. I do not even know if the 5W-20 Maxlife Full syn exists or not. I'll check the web.
I might have to create a thread and post some good deal about motor oil, rebates. The oil company runs rebates all the time.
yea, they worship it for a reason, because it has held it ground on numerous tests... its a great oil thats fairly cheap (like $20 a 5L jug)...
much cheaper, with comparable results, than going with something like motul 300V (which is a true groupIV)
