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You know... with all those Honda stollen. I'm getting nervous[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/IMG]

 
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I'll give you a hint. Honda started putting the immobilizer in the '98 Accord and the 01' Civic. Neither of those are on the list, but that's not to say that is the sole reason. Point is, no Honda with an immobilizer is on the list.

 
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Hate to break it to you, but one member's 2k1 Civic was stolen... they got it back in fair condition only cuz you can't really do sh't with the parts for a new car unless they're aftermarket parts. The immobilizer system has been broken.

 
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But it don't mean it wont be stolen. Still, layer your security...use the club, alarm system, and that brake immobalizer thingy. That in addition to the immobalizer will make the chances lesser...also take out anything that doesn;t belong...i.e glasses, cd's, cd player face plate, money, nice clothing....basically anything that will attract a theif...also don't bump your system within your neighborhood kuz people sit and watch and a lot of times your neighbors may have somehting to do with the theft...I know mine did. Every since I've had a big knife, gold club or somehting to do some damage with near my door. I hear the alarm I'm outa the house in a minute and ready to beat some @$$.

 
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I never said that is hasn't been broken or that it can't. Anything is possible, the question was is it effective. Not 100% fool proof. It appears to me that the immobilzer has reduced the number of Hondas stolen. Just out of curiosity how did he get it back in fair condition. Generally when someone goes through that much effort in stealing a car they usually strip it. That's a substantial amount of work for a saturday night joyride.

 
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Exactly, you can't rely only just ony one type of protection for the car.. the more deterence you have the more likely they'll move on to a different car that wont be such a pain in the *** to steal.

 
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<< glasses, cd's, cd player face plate, money, nice clothing....basically anything that will attract a theif... >>


That is why I have copies of my CD's in my car, and if im lucky mabye 3 dollars in change in the little coin thingy. I had a scare when I was DD one time, and my buddy took my CD case, thinking they were his friends. I was freakin out. I would lose it if I lost my CD's since im such a music fanatic.

 
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<< I never said that is hasn't been broken or that it can't. Anything is possible, the question was is it effective. Not 100% fool proof. It appears to me that the immobilzer has reduced the number of Hondas stolen. Just out of curiosity how did he get it back in fair condition. Generally when someone goes through that much effort in stealing a car they usually strip it. That's a substantial amount of work for a saturday night joyride. >>



I never was replying to your post in the first place, sorry to say! [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

How his car got stolen...

If you look in the west forums, right under the link to this thread (unless you replied to it) you'll find that his car was recovered. How did he get it back in fair condition? What are you gonna do with the parts to a new car that can't fit on an old car? Put them on another new car you just stole? The engine in our car isn't worth sh't on top of that.

 
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i would like to know how to bypass the security system. just so i know so if anyone knows let me know

 
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<< glasses, cd's, cd player face plate, money, nice clothing....basically anything that will attract a theif... >>


That is why I have copies of my CD's in my car, and if im lucky mabye 3 dollars in change in the little coin thingy. I had a scare when I was DD one time, and my buddy took my CD case, thinking they were his friends. I was freakin out. I would lose it if I lost my CD's since im such a music fanatic. >>

I carry only copies of my CDs in my car, too! Well, most of them are mixes anyway and all my CDs are backed up on my computer on top of that. As for my car, there's little in it... nothing in the trunk except a spare tire w/jack. Otherwise, the stock floormats (which didn't come with the car) are all I got.

 
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<< i would like to know how to bypass the security system. just so i know so if anyone knows let me know >>

The other only way to steal the car is to have a master key from the dealer. The dealer has this key, and also someone who delivers cars to dealers have these keys. There was an incident before that someone's 2k1 Civic got stolen by the driver of a guy who delivers Honda automobiles. He tried doing it on a college campus and he got his *** caught. The car was returned in it's normal condition.
Otherwise, you cannot jimmy the door from the outside... so if you lock your key in the car, don't bother calling a tow truck to do it for you, call your Honda dealer.

 
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the tools needed to break the immobilizer system are for the car thief "upper class" and they usually dont waste their time on civics

"usually don't" doesn't mean "never" though (sadly)

and crazybluehonda, I know how to bypass the system (i don't have the tools) b/c I know enough car thieves, but I'm not telling... we dont need stuff like this thrown around.

 
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When I installed my Viper remote start last week. I traced the anti-theft immobilzer. I can be bypassed, however it will take quite some time to get to it. Its burried in the dash. I had my car all apart when I was installing my alarm. However, I will not share any information and the anti-theft immobilzer. There is no need to know, unless you have dishonest intentions. You have to go far beyond the following picture to get to the immobilzer, minus the dash cluster. No reason for that to come out!!

 
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I totally agree Avenger. No reason for this information to be circulating. However, I think we know of two seperate methods. Apparently you know of an electronic way, while I know a more low-tech no special tools needed way. However my method involves more work since you actually have to get to the immobilzer itself and bypass, not "trick it" with electronics. Your method is faster and involves highly expesive tools that a theif doesn't waste using on our cars.

 
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i have had nothing put problems with this anti-theft device. the dealer has changed my keys some many times its not even funny. so i want to take it out once and for all.

 
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How many times has it been back?? Lemon Law it!! I would have them replace the whole unit before you take it out. Keep in mind it is VERY easy to steal a car without some sort of an alarm or immobilzer. Generally all you have to do is jam a scredriver into the igntion and turn it. You just have to break the tumblers in the key cylinder. REAL EASY TO STEAL, and if you ever installed a remote start alarm, you would know that hotwiring a car is quite easy to. Without in immobilzer/alarm, I could hot wire a civic in a matter of 2 minutes or less. All I need is a few alligator clips and some scrap jumper wire!!!

 
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well its been to the dealer for this problem 8 times. just keeps happening again and again and there awnser is the weather. the cold affects the unit. like today was -37 with the windchill. so i want to take the whole unit out or find a way to bypass it not damaging anything just bypassing it. then i won't have to sit outside when its cold trying to start my car. i was told from someone on here to take the fuse out for the security system but i didn't even find that. so if you know how to bypass it let me know.

 
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my friend was installing my alarm the other day and he hot wired my car to show me the immobilizer doesn't work if you know what you're doing..

 
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Here's what you do... Take it back to the dealer and demand them to fix it. Their excuse for the weather is BS. Electronics work better when they are cold. Why do you think we put fans on everything? Anyway, deman that they replace the whole assembly or tell them you will file for lemon law. Also consider contacting someone higher up in Honda. I strongly suggest that you do not attempt to bypass the immobilzer. If you think you have the ability to bypass it then just get in there and find it. If you can't find it or figure out how to find it, then you probably shouldn't attempt to bypass it. Are they claiming its the key or the immobilzer itself, the receiver?

 
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^ KevinFWB, trying to find where that shiny new nickel of his fell to

j/k d00d [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] [IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG]

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Yeah I know of how to bypass the system using an electronic method, but I have never traced or checked the wires specific to the immobilizer so we do know two different ways [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

Like you said about the prev civics, when I was 14 i worked at a tow yard all summer w/ two ex car thieves on parole, and I learned how to bypass the ford mustangs "sophisticated" systems using a piece of wire and a penny

 
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iambo.. are you sure that the key was no where near the ignition? The car will try to crank but it will not run without 1. the key nearby 2. using a seperapte bypass unit and 3. Bypassing the immobilzer all together. The immobilzer cannot be bypassed by simply hot wiring the car. It just doens't work. There is no way to bypass it at the ignition harness

 
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LOL Avenger. Yah some of those methods are crap, like GM's method of using the resistor in the key.. now that's an easy one to bypass.

 
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not the key the unit thats having the problems. ive gone as high as i can. ive contacted honda canada and talked with them about my car. they opened a investigation but nothing was done. the only thing that was blammed was that the unit wasn't made for such cold weather.

 
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near or away either way it doesn't work.

 
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oh nm... you're right... he just told me that he briefly stuck the key in the ignition so the ignition would read the code from the key....

 
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most cars now a days to get stolen just get towed straight........... its fast and it looks legit if theres a lot of people around, my friends 99 accord got stolen at a movie thetre

 
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yeah towjackin happens way too often

 
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For all those trying to bypass thier immobilizer.
DEI makes a module I'm pretty sure it's part number 555U for installing remote start With alarm... You need to use your spare or Valet key in it....
It's available through best buy or circuit city for like $60
Better option than ripping your dash apart, unless you enjoy that kinda thing!
That's the reason I chose not to install remote start, the Immoblizer is a Very effect anti theft device. As many people have said... the people who have the tools to steal our cars are too busy stealing Lexus's and Vipers.

 
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<< most cars now a days to get stolen just get towed straight........... its fast and it looks legit if theres a lot of people around, my friends 99 accord got stolen at a movie thetre >>



hmm that gives me an idea of how to prevent car theft.. make a law that makes towing of any car under any circumstance considered car theft unless a cop is present when the car is loaded on the tow truck. sure it would be an annoyance for legitimate towing, but it could cut down car theft if people could tell if the towing was legal and call the cops with a license plate number of the tow truck

 
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ATTN: 4Jacks
Using the DEI #555U does not bypass the ignition immobilzer in the sense that you are thinking. It in now way effects your Honda Ignition Immobilzer, in matter of fact you don't even touch the OEM immobilizer. Heres how it works. You disassemble the 555U and place your Valet/Spare key inside of it. Looking at the 555U you would have no clue what it was unless you have dealt with them before. The 555U has a long wire with a loop at the end of that wire. You run it through your car and place the loop around your ignition cylinder. The 555U has threee wires, power, ground and activation input. When you remote start your car your alarm sends out a signal when the remote start process is started. You hook that wire up to the activation input on the 555U at that time, and that time only, the 555U copies the signal in it and sends out the signal to the wire looped around your ignition coil. Only when the 555U recieves the signal does it duplicate the key code. When your car is not been started with the remote, your ignition immobilzer works normally. Only Honda Coded Keys will allow the car to start. And if you pay $60 for the #555U you paid way too much. Keep in mind dealer cost on the 555U is $14.