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Old Nov 18, 2006
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Debate with a friend

A friend of mine has a Station Wagon with a 1.9 twin cam.
Its putting out something like 130 stock.
He’s got internals, pistons, rods, valves, springs, and a wideband tuner. He just ordered a turbo for it, and claims he’ll hit 300-350 hp on it.

I haven’t said anything, but I’m having a hard time visualizing 300+ horsepower with just internals and a turbo.
I’m just posting this because it’s been on my mind… I wish him all the luck in the world, but I still can’t see numbers like that out of the motor.
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Haha I laughed when I saw station wagon and turbo. I'm not an expert on turbo's so I don't know. Unless it's a big a$$ turbo.
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It’s an average sized turbo for a little 4 cyl. You should see this thing! He’s got it kitted, 18’s, fender flares, Gold/green interior… It’s … different… for sure!
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Haha that's great. Post up a pic bro.
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big turbo?.....high boost......it probably could make up around there....but at what cost? reliability
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Next time I talk to him I’ll grab some pics for ya!
(I was going to throw it up on the local ricers thread a long time ago… But I never got around to it ) He’s using this as a daily driver, and he’s convinced that since he did the internals, its going to be bullet proof at 300+.
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not only reliability but drivability, a big turbo on a 1.8 would be pointless, imagine how long it would take to spool

LAG
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It's a pretty quick revving motor... Redlines at 5 grand tho...
With internals hes probably around 150hp. I just cant see a turbo doubling the HP reliably...
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he can hit 300+ with a bigger turbo...
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yes it is definately possible. from th sounds of it , i think it may be a saturn wagon.. am i correct?? think abou tit this way/ our little d1 is a single overhead cam. with out internals guys are puttin gdown 225whp with boost. so with internals i dont see why a DOHC motor wouldnt be able to produce 300whp with boost. guys put down 400+ with stock internals on b series motors all the time
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Yeah. As long as everything else holds up i'm going to laugh when his built motor can make 500+ and you start to cry
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^^^^ hahaha
I didn’t say anything to him, it was just hard for me to picture a Saturn motor like that putting down double the output, and still be reliable enough for a daily driver!
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One near me runs 11's.
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Originally Posted by familycar
yes it is definately possible. from th sounds of it , i think it may be a saturn wagon.. am i correct?? think abou tit this way/ our little d1 is a single overhead cam. with out internals guys are puttin gdown 225whp with boost. so with internals i dont see why a DOHC motor wouldnt be able to produce 300whp with boost. guys put down 400+ with stock internals on b series motors all the time
hehe you said tit
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hehe you said tit
i didnt realize how bad my typing was in that post until i re-read it.. LOL slow down a lil eh!!
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^^^^ hahaha
I didn’t say anything to him, it was just hard for me to picture a Saturn motor like that putting down double the output, and still be reliable enough for a daily driver!
I had a 1993 SC2 that I bored out, built up, and turboed.... After tuning I laid down 254hp 225 ft lbs. @ 9 psi. It was actually really reliable- I drove it around as a daily every day for about a year and a half until I sold it. It was expensive as hell to put together and I destroyed a tranny with it.
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