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Hey everybody, I just came back from running and sometimes this is what happened: rev up to about 35 rpm, dumped the clutch and went craving for grip (damn radials) then once my tires got contact I took it up to about 55-59 rpm's before I changed to 2nd and then for no reason rpm's fell below 25. I don't know if subconsciously I let off the pedal but I really don't think that was the case. If it's not my foot, the other cause obviously will be from under the hood. How many of you out there believe it's me and my foot being retarded (hopefully) or is there actually a chance that something is wrong with my d17a2?????

something to definitely keep in mind is that I'm still new to running so it's highly possible I'm to blame--i just want to make sure with the gurus

 
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<< ...I just came back from running... ...I'm still new to running... >>


What do you mean by running?



<< 35 rpm, 55-59 rpm's, below 25 >>



Not to be mean or anything, but you probably have 3500 rpm, 5500-5900 rpm's, and below 2500 in mind. You always multiply the rpm's on the guage by a thousand. I always see people mention it in thousands.

Anyway... You have to be sure that you can replicate the problem. If it is a problem. The rpm's will be lower when you shift up to the next gear. That's normal. I'm not sure if the numbers you listed are normal or not? I'de have to try this myself to see. Sounds pretty normal though.

 
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running:racing

my friend's call it that and it's rubbed off on me

25, 55-59, etc.: thanks for the info but I knew that already, just a little bit less to type, that's all, plus I figured it was understood

in 1st, i let it go up to in between 5500 and 5900 rpm and then shifted, and I'm almost positive that i kept my friggin foot on the pedal but now in retrospect I'm doubting myself...when i shifted it fell down to below 2500 rpm and since i thought for sure my foot was well buried into the pedal I was shocked when it fell so low....now i'm not so sure

any ideas? is what i wrote clear?

 
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Is that punta gorda, FL??? If so, do you go to desoto raceway for the test & tune nights??

 
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you gotta remember to double clutch, that means dont dump it in 2nd let it back in slow like in first an keep the rpms up there. that way you keep the HP and if you got turbos they stay on rather than cuttin out at low RPM, you'll prolly kill the clutch faster but it can be replaced.

 
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Zifnib: Double clutching is used in cars without synchronizer gears. Our cars have synchronizer gears. You can still rpm match if you want for a smooth transition from gear to gear, but the synchronizer gears were designed so that you wouldn't have to do this. I don't think he was racing and I don't think he has a turbocharger, much less two of them. I have no idea what you're trying to describe and how it relates to the topic at hand?

 
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shifting at 5900, plus your foot note being heavy enough could be a simple explanation. I will bring it up to around 6900 when racing. then when you shift to second you stay in VTEC. The power peak in our cars isn't till 6300 or something.

 
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Well, if you were doggin 1st, then shifted to 2nd, seems like the rpms would still be above 2500 even if you let off the gas.

 
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i think they should have come in at like 3000 or so. well from 5500rpm to 2500 isn't actually that unreasonable is it? you gotta redline, then everything will be ok. haha.

 
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Seems like the rpms would have remained high for a sec and then come down. Doogin first and then shifting to second, then immediately lifting off the gas would really bring the civic to a halt quickly and the rpms would stay up for a moment.

 
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I believe the scenario that Mbow described is accurate as to what happened. I was kind of doggin' it, looking back that seems almost completely right.

I wasn't really racing at all since I wasn't going against some other guy, I was just practicing takeoffs to try and get a less horrendous reaction time. Nitehawk, that's true, i never redlined and obviously that's key.

Actually, I knew exactly what Grey was talking about (synchronizer gears and the details of double-clutching) and had advice from friends never to do that with my car. to all three of you guys, thanks for the tips and info., and for taking it easy on me----a few hundred more runs, and i'll get it all down [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]