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why the hell are european turbo's (VW, Volvo, Saab) so fuggin weak? wuts the whole point for the turbo...well i guess for pickup only....
don't flame me ....i know i am leavin out the audi's, porsche's, etc...but u guys get what i mean...not counting the the high class cars

 
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never really thought of that. I went with my girlfriend to test drive the turbo beatle when it came out and was not impressed at all. It was really slow, but I did get a free t-shirt out of it, which i came home and used to put the wax my Honda.

 
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i guess you havent seen the 180hp TURBO Golf GTI??? yeah. pick up this month's motor trend and read about it. i would get that car if the payments would be as good as my civ's

 
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I hardly think that they are weak, take a look at VW/Audi's 1.8L Turbo... it gets 180hp in the Jetta, 220 in the Audi TT. Probably just boosted the pressure and tweaked engine breathing and exhaust. I don't think those are shabby numbers. If the car feels slow it's probably because of their heavier weight. They have tons of torque too.

Volvo S60 T5 is 240hp? I don't think that is too shabby?! Car is heavy and it is FWD so there is torque steer problems. The same with Saab 9-5 Turbo.

The cars are geared for refinement and greater reliability. If they boosted pressure of the turbos to racing levels, they'd be recording large warranty provisions in their accounting books...

Take a look at the Audi S4 2.8L Bi-turbo... 250+ hp.

 
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the s4 is teh $hit..tt awd....but wut i mean is compared to the jap turbo's the europeans are nothin....once u go jap u never go back..