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i browsed a new Car and Driver, and they had some track test nubers on the 2k2 si hatch......i was NOT impressed.[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/IMG] 1/4mile=16.0sec 0-60=8sec. i dont think those number warrent the extra 4 grand over an EX 5spd. i personally got my civ to run a best 0-60 at 8.4 stock, so with mild mods, i can see maybe matching and surpassing the SI's numbers for reasonable costs. just my $.02

 
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its a POS plain and simple

 
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it's ugly too. looks like a focus.[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/IMG]

 
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i wouldn't mind to have it if someone got it for me...other than that...i dunno what else to say about it...jus gotta have respect for those whu own it i guess...

 
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I agree that the car is as ugly as sin, but i think those numbers are a bit off. If the 99-00 Si did 0-60 in 7.4, then how can a car with the same hp, but way more torque run slower? I dont think the weight is that much to slow it down. I never did trust Car and driver with their numbers. Plus, ive heard that they already have plans for a turbocharger on that car. It might be ugly but it will run circles around the last Si.

 
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magazine driver suck... the new si should be able to pull at least 7.7.. despite all of its weight. sigH. C&D also rated a RSX-S for 6.1 sec to 60.. now u tell me how da heck dey got that number????
cant trust magazine numbers

 
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DIY car stats are the only way to go.

 
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<< I agree that the car is as ugly as sin, but i think those numbers are a bit off. If the 99-00 Si did 0-60 in 7.4, then how can a car with the same hp, but way more torque run slower? I dont think the weight is that much to slow it down. I never did trust Car and driver with their numbers. Plus, ive heard that they already have plans for a turbocharger on that car. It might be ugly but it will run circles around the last Si. >>



mag racing is BS. I can pull 0-60 in my Si in 7.0. How can it run slower? Its only 300+ lbs heavier not to mention among other problems it has. It running circles around the Old Si [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG] HAHA funny funny

 
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<< mag racing is BS. >>



Yes it is

 
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neo.......im not some magazine racer, but there aren many 02 SI's on the street to race at the moment are there????????????[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG] so i was just going on other peoples results for the time being, i still think its slower than the last SI from looking at a collection of times.............just dont be so quick to jump the gun and call me a magazine racer so you look cool................ive seen times from 7.6-8 secs, so regardless, it aint impresive so far from what some magazines have reported, which are among the few to drive it yet. point of he story....SI isnt winning my vote so far...

 
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<< neo.......im not some magazine racer, but there aren many 02 SI's on the street to race at the moment are there????????????[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG] so i was just going on other peoples results for the time being, i still think its slower than the last SI from looking at a collection of times.............just dont be so quick to jump the gun and call me a magazine racer so you look cool................ive seen times from 7.6-8 secs, so regardless, it aint impresive so far from what some magazines have reported, which are among the few to drive it yet. point of he story....SI isnt winning my vote so far... >>



Was I talking to you?? I was talking to the guy who thought the new Si will run circles around the old one.

You just made yourself look like a Grade A [IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG]

 
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These mag people can never be trusted for consistency in their numbers. Aren't they the same people that tested an 01 ex and ran 16.2 1/4 mile? I just don't know what to believe from these guys...

 
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the number is obviously a bit off. it can do better. should be able to pull a mid 7 sec 0-60 and high 15 quarter mile..

now I think the previous Si is faster in a zero to whatever (0-60, 0-90, quarter mile, etc.) but it should be obvious that the new Si has more power through its power band... so its 60-75 passing time is probably faster than the last gen Si.

ie: if you start a race from a roll of say... 20 or 40 mph... the advantage is with the new Si I would think. (more torque)

I duno what car I'll pick thgough, they both got their pros and cons. *shrug*

 
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Well said Cap.

 
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Ok, Magus, I know you know how fast the new SI's, I mean you've driven them...no, actually you haven't.

Actually...only a few magazine editors have...so how do you know they are slow as sin? Because they are a little heavier? Because of their final drive ratio? Because the torque they have?

Let's just hope the new SI owner's aren't as cocky as the older SI owners...

 
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the only thing thats good about the new si is the interior. i like the stick shift mounted in the dash like on some porsches

the body look real horrable. it was designed and made in the uk

go figure

 
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8 seconds. That's gotta be wrong. I don't care if it's heavier, but it will in certain respects surpass the old Si. I"ve flip flopped about this car. First I liked it then I hated it, now I kinda like it again. IMO it's got big potential and all it needs is a year to see what can be done with it.

 
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the civic si had a version of the k20A... does anyone know the differences between the k20A in the integra, civic, and crv????