03 Corbra
03 Corbra
All I have to say is wow! I rode in an 03 Cobra tonight, the mod list is huge but the biggest mod is an aftermarket blower. We topped out at roughly around 170ish, the speedometer only goes to 160 but he still had plenty of rpms to go. You get a whole new perspective on real speed. I also rode in an 05 Evo and it is quick in its own right but the Cobra just pulled on it like nothin. Cars like that are why I look forward to the day when I will get one.
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I think that it's just better to ride in other people's cars and give them props. I think the problem with speed is that it is a never ending obsession. We want 250whp, the corvette guys that have 650whp upgrade to get more, and the viper guys that have over a 1000whp go and turbo lamborghinis (these are all real examples that ive seen). I just stick to handling, and the vic is no F1 car, so that stays relatively cheap.
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Originally Posted by thegent
At 170mph it starts getting risky because of aerodynamics. Air flowing under the car slowly starts to lift up the whole thing.
Eventually fast car guys see the light and just buy fast bikes
You get to 170 a lot faster and quickly come to realise the consequences of your actions should you crash, subsequently, you learn to not drive like an idiot.
You get to 170 a lot faster and quickly come to realise the consequences of your actions should you crash, subsequently, you learn to not drive like an idiot.
Originally Posted by dre2600
Eventually fast car guys see the light and just buy fast bikes
You get to 170 a lot faster and quickly come to realise the consequences of your actions should you crash, subsequently, you learn to not drive like an idiot.
You get to 170 a lot faster and quickly come to realise the consequences of your actions should you crash, subsequently, you learn to not drive like an idiot.To clarify my take on what you said : the fact is that even if you DO ride like a madman, which is easy on a sportsbike, you're more aware of the consequences of a crash than if you were snugly seated in your sportscar, since you have almost no protection in case of a crash. You're brought to respect by your own bike in order to keep yourself in one piece.
Hell, I was aware of everything that could have happened goin that fast, but what are ya goin do, once your goin that quick, anything is goin be trouble, car or bike. You dont need a bike to make you more aware of the danger.
Originally Posted by thegent
I was just about to post that.
To clarify my take on what you said : the fact is that even if you DO ride like a madman, which is easy on a sportsbike, you're more aware of the consequences of a crash than if you were snugly seated in your sportscar, since you have almost no protection in case of a crash. You're brought to respect by your own bike in order to keep yourself in one piece.
To clarify my take on what you said : the fact is that even if you DO ride like a madman, which is easy on a sportsbike, you're more aware of the consequences of a crash than if you were snugly seated in your sportscar, since you have almost no protection in case of a crash. You're brought to respect by your own bike in order to keep yourself in one piece.
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Originally Posted by Metallica454
A blower is a supercharger 
No not really. A super charger is off the engine run by a belt and the blower sits on top of the intake(blower specific) and runs off a belt, and its about 12inches higher than your intake so people run the off the motor(sc) to keep it less Joe dirt.
Originally Posted by cg95660
No not really. A super charger is off the engine run by a belt and the blower sits on top of the intake(blower specific) and runs off a belt, and its about 12inches higher than your intake so people run the off the motor(sc) to keep it less Joe dirt.
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Originally Posted by soonercivic
Drive an 800hp NASCAR, thats some serious power. I would still rather have a new 400hp GTO over a Cobra any day.
Originally Posted by cg95660
No not really. A super charger is off the engine run by a belt and the blower sits on top of the intake(blower specific) and runs off a belt, and its about 12inches higher than your intake so people run the off the motor(sc) to keep it less Joe dirt.
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Originally Posted by familycar
actually your wrong. asupercharger and a blower are the exact same thing. what your reffering to is the difference between a centrifugal supercharger and roots driven charges. both are blowers. the term "blower" came form the fact that the unit blows air into the motor to create power. a centrifugal blower is not located on top of the intake manifold like the roots blower is. centrifugal blower is like a turbo that is turned by a belt as to where a roots blower has screw type impellars that are driven by a belt. the centrifugal blower is more commonly used on "fuel injected vehicles because it is easier to install than a roots type". but they both do the exact same thing which is blow air into the motor!!
LOL owned by no one. Roots blah blah ask any v8 head what a blower and a super charger is and they will tell you exactly as I said. Any way you just elaborated on my point. "fuel injected vehicles because it is easier to install than a roots type" well that is just what I said just not in detail. One peeps who run blowers can not cool the air charge with a intercooler. So an advantage does go to sc. But one can use a small amount of nitrous to cool down a street driven blower.
In the grand sceme of things all forced induction do the same thing blow air! Besides I am a reformed v8 head who has turned over a import leaf and has no reason to get into a pissing match over things. Imo they are not the same they may be in detail but in the auto world just ask you might be suprised.
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Ill take a specific car with an N/A 4.3L V8 that revvs to 8500 rpms and produces 483 bhp and 470 ft lbs, Thank you.
Gotta just reply to this... If you ask a question to 1000 peopla and 1000 of them answer it incorrectly, does that make them correct?
I am not saying you are right or wrong on the blower/supercharger arguement (i dont know or care) but your logic is what gets to me. Just wondering.
Originally Posted by cg95660
Imo they are not the same they may be in detail but in the auto world just ask you might be suprised.
I am not saying you are right or wrong on the blower/supercharger arguement (i dont know or care) but your logic is what gets to me. Just wondering.
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Originally Posted by cg95660
LOL owned by no one. Roots blah blah ask any v8 head what a blower and a super charger is and they will tell you exactly as I said. Any way you just elaborated on my point. "fuel injected vehicles because it is easier to install than a roots type" well that is just what I said just not in detail. One peeps who run blowers can not cool the air charge with a intercooler. So an advantage does go to sc. But one can use a small amount of nitrous to cool down a street driven blower.
In the grand sceme of things all forced induction do the same thing blow air! Besides I am a reformed v8 head who has turned over a import leaf and has no reason to get into a pissing match over things. Imo they are not the same they may be in detail but in the auto world just ask you might be suprised.
In the grand sceme of things all forced induction do the same thing blow air! Besides I am a reformed v8 head who has turned over a import leaf and has no reason to get into a pissing match over things. Imo they are not the same they may be in detail but in the auto world just ask you might be suprised.
http://www.horsepowerinabox.com/HPIA...tegory56_1.htm
called a supercharger but look its a "blower" n your terms
http://www.holley.com/categories.asp?division=Weiand
oh my god do we have another????
here is an artcile explaining how both work just for you and they also reffer to them as blowers and superchargers
http://www.sporttruck.com/techarticles/1436/
and to your other comment about them not being able to use and intercooler well i got a pic of one just to shut you up even further. you see i am not just an import guy myself. in fact i used to work for a truck performance shop for many years selling parts. i also own a 2001 s10 that has made many magazine adds and also reps for budnik and wingswest. i am no stranger to the domestic market either. in fact that is where most of my knowledge derived. i dont know where you got your information but it is wrong and i have posted several link showing the company themselves (wieand) and holley calling it a supercharger. did you even know how a supercharger came about??? read the last link it will take you back to school. i really dont like having to go through this just to prove you wrong but your being soo damn persistant i had to show you the error of your ways.
Its looking pretty bad for CG95560 lol. I love it when people post things without checking their info. Let the informational b**** slapping continue! I know he is gonna post something else thats wrong and someone will tear him another one. heh
Originally Posted by cg95660
No not really. A super charger is off the engine run by a belt and the blower sits on top of the intake(blower specific) and runs off a belt, and its about 12inches higher than your intake so people run the off the motor(sc) to keep it less Joe dirt.
JOE DIRT?? what the hell does that have to do with anything??? a roots type s/c sits on top on the head because it incorperates an intake manifold into the design. obviously a little longer intake runners in certain situations can be very beneficial. there are roots type s/c's that do bolt under the hood. look at the ford lightning for example. people run a centrifugal s/c for the ease of it. a centrifugal s/c does not require the disassambly of your entire fuel system and intake manifold. centrifugal chargers havent been out nearly as long as the term supercharger. both run off belts both compress the incomming air by means of your crank. the centrifugal s/c however does not create the power on the low end a roots type does. this is why a lot of drag cars use roots type instead of a centrifugal type. with both you are limited to the rpm the motor can turn for the amount of boost it can produce. that is why a turbo is soo much better. it no only create full boost at a certain rpm which is lower than a s/c but it also does not require you to turn out max rpm to get max boost.




